Who created Marijuana? God, Devil, Aliens

GreenDragon

GreenDragon

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shroomer33 said:
I'll make this as short as possible.
Claim #1: Aliens are real.
Proof: Too many people state the same experiences. Not all of these people are crazy. Too many historical references, especially in native American cultures. Too many people in the military who have come out under the Disclosure Project who claim that something 'otherworldly' is occuring with respect to the whole UFO thing.
Claim #2: The alien thing is not what Darwinism implies.
Proof: Classical Darwinism is scientific naturalism, which totally rejects all otherworldly explanations, by construction, which is totally unscientific, by the way. (This also makes classical Darwinism a joke.) Classical Darwinism has little explanation as to the multi-dimensional nature of these 'aliens'.
Claim#3: Our universe is a continuum of higher dimensions.
Proof: Now this is up for scientific debate, but the string theories are only consistent in multiple dimensions above our 4, whether they be 10, 11, or 26. At this point, the LHC is not taking data, so we'll have to wait on that one for scientific proof. Most theoretical physicists are looking for higher dimensions when the LHC gets up and running.
Claim #4: These dimensions are filled with evil and have influenced world leaders throughout history.
Proof: Where does evil come from? From the human heart? Ok. The human heart exists in higher dimensions too and is influenced by higher dimensional energies. We know that evil does not exist here in this plane, as something physical. What is seen by us in our universe is a collection of identical particles, hardly anything evil in that. Since we know evil exists (look at a pile of dead Jews from WW2, or Jeffrey Dahmer's altar), it has to come from somewhere apart from our observed universe of identical particles. The only other place evil can come from is from unseen realms that coexist with ours, perhaps side by side on another brane. By extension, the evil in our collective human heart, is responsible for the mass murder in history.
Claim #5:

to be continued, i got shit to do.


I am trying to lay down the meaning of life in a short answer on a pothead forum. Cut me some slack.
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i'm sorry but are you trying to say that all other dimensional entities are evil? those that I encounter on DmT are about half and half, there is a balance of all things in the universe(s).
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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GreenDragon said:
the best thing you have said yet...LOL!

I don't know why, but I seem to just love picking on you...well to day at least....But its all love!


Love and Hugs, Nova )O( :peace:
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No worries here. I don't get the feeling of being picked on. you'd have to be right first... :wink: Still waiting....
 
shroomer33

shroomer33

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GreenDragon said:
i'm sorry but are you trying to say that all other dimensional entities are evil? those that I encounter on DmT are about half and half, there is a balance of all things in the universe(s).
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Not all, of course. My argument also implies that goodness and righteousness exist in these unseen dimensions. But this whole thing started with aliens, which I think are demons and/or fallen angels. So I focused on the evil side of the higher dimensions.
 
GreenDragon

GreenDragon

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CrackerJax said:
No worries here. I don't get the feeling of being picked on. you'd have to be right first... :wink: Still waiting....
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If you say so....if you've read anything we've said and still concede that nothing here a possibility at least...I think you just don't have the mental capacity for the truth and logic...or like i said your a d.a.

And for the record, I don't see how your being an atheist, has anything to do with my comparison of hardcore Catholics and whatever the other thing was, in comparison with yourself, the insanity of the situation was the point. Though I think atheism is also a stupid concept, at least for me, you can't take "trips" to the bardo and not believe, try some DmT(keep you eyes closed), a few times, then see what you believe, and if you have, I'm done talking ether way and there's no point in arguing with you....
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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I have a great capacity for logic. You just haven't used any.

Is there a reasonable probability of life in the Universe? Sure. That however does not give credence to UFO visitation to Earth. This is where the probabilities drop precipitously. Remember logic? Logic follows probabilities.

You may see anecdotal evidence as proof, I do not. Outrageous claims demand outrageous PROOF......

Mind altering drugs are merely that...mind altering, nothing more. No magic windows open, just an altered brain for a brief period.

I can see that you for whatever reason need desperately to believe in space fairies, so don't let me get in your way, carry on.
 
shroomer33

shroomer33

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CrackerJax said:
The Chinese were the first to discover weed, so that would mean G*D is Asian and a Buddhist.


The earth made weed, just like the earth made you.


out. :blsmoke:
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But what was the predominant religion of the asian region when weed was discovered? It wasn't Buddhism.

Maybe it was BUD-ism.....huh huh.....
 
BigToker92

BigToker92

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Im gunna go wit my own shit. i think that god nd tha devil made weed 2gether way back before tha devil went evil nd all that shit, so its tha best of both em. smokin its tha devils part cawz it can be hell cawz coughins a bitch and tha actual high is gods part cawz u be in tha clouds lol.
 
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.matt

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^^I'm going with that, but add aliens in there somewhere.

The real question is who was the first person to cure bud, and how did they figure that out?
 
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th3volcomJ3rk

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marijuana first appears at what we call the cradle of civilization. This "cradle" is located between the Euphrates and Tigirs Rivers, better known as the Fertile Crescent. The fertile crescent would be an ideal spot for early settlers, or earth colonizers to setup camp. NOW, knowing that, if you were some form of extra terrestrial (ET), what would you bring? You know this plant (earth) can support life, but what is it that is currectly there? What is a good, durable, multipurpose crop? How about something we can make medicine, clothing, fuel, etc out of? Hmmm? Marijuana. Ever looked a plant in full bloom; covered in thick crystals? Does it look like anything else you have seen on earth? Probably not. The stored energy of marijuana is unrivaled by anything else that can be grown naturally. It was brought to earth by the "Gods". These "Gods" were ETs. Lacking the vocabulary of this century, ancient people described it with the resources available to them.

Many ancient civilizations had Marijuana. Egyptians, Syrians, Chinese, Myan. This plant was spread around the globe, and was important to all of these civilizations whom had no communication with each other. Strange? When tombs of Egyptian Pharaohs were explored, hundreds of points of ancient weed were discovered. This plant was extremely important to them. Why? Because the star gods had brought it fourth and bestowed it upon them.

So, marijuana was not invented by god or the devil or aliens. It was more likely an organism that has had a couple of billion years to evolve of the surface of another plant elsewhere in the universe (the earth is about 4.5 billion years old, where as the universe is almost 13 billion) and brought to earth for the reasons stated above. I know this all sounds really far fetched, but if you read ancient writing and scriptures, and take them LITERALLY, you may be left with a different understanding. take this with a grain of salt.
 
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KBRoaster

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HarvestFest2010 said:
Here is my question:

While blogging around the vast melting pot of the internet I saw several people posting comments about the devil creating Marijuana.

Do you believe that Marijuana was created by God, or some creater/nature, Devil/destructive mutation from herb, or Aliens applied the mutation to the plant?

I want to hear some thoughts b4 i give my opinion.

If you know of any facts like the origins and age of the cannibis plant post that. If you want to make up some other theories, please do.
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First off, silly, silly question.

Secondly, to correctly answer the question: marijuana was first used by the Scythians thousands of years ago (http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/1374.html). They would burn marijuana plants in large fires in an enclosed hut/place.

Marijuana was invented by the devil. Gosh, people are stupid. If you must bring religion into it, the bible specifically says God created weed:

Genesis 1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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There is no good or evil, they are human concepts. Look at nature and it does not exist.

I think that life is ancient and has been around for a very long time. I also think that aliens exist and their concept of time is different than ours. And in an effort to become immortal as it were they spread seeds through the universe that would allow life to evolve on many planets, in many locations. And I believe that our planet was seeded by these aliens and life evolved to survive and thrive on this planet.

Life is simply to diverse and too abundant on earth for it to be a fluke of nature.
 
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KBRoaster

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NLXSK1 said:
There is no good or evil, they are human concepts. Look at nature and it does not exist.
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Huh????

These seems like a paradox to me...would you care to explain in more detail what you mean? This seems to be going against Descartes cogito.
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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KBRoaster said:
Huh????

These seems like a paradox to me...would you care to explain in more detail what you mean? This seems to be going against Descartes cogito.
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I am not as educated in Descartes as you are. I am a student of observation.

Assume for a moment that you are the only human on the planet. Now observe nature and show me evidence of good and evil *in nature*. Man has created the terms *good* and *evil* to describe moral constructs in his society. If a wolf kills a rabbit is it evil? If he kills it to survive is it evil? No, it is simply nature.

Now, if you apply this to marijuana, it is an object. It simply exists. There is no way for a plant to be good or evil. It is like a gun. A gun is not evil or good although it can be used to do evil or good acts as described by human perceptions. The same thing for marijuana.
 
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