ChesusRice
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Quick get out !!!!!!!!
Who can afford to hire a housekeeper or Nanny. I guess I can
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UncleBuck
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yes, letting walmart workers sleep in the stock room and giving them $0.85 worth of ramen a day so you can cut their pay to even more pathetic and laughable levels is rational. i apologize, please don't kill me for not having a raging hate boner for statists because i am not stuck in the 'just-read-ayn-rand' phase like you.
i had no idea that people were forced to work. you poor thing. better go kill some statists and masturbate to ayn rand after!
ginwilly
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If the couple's house was a country and the couple was the government, maybe they were really paying her 10bucks an hour and her tax rate was 87%. We used to have a 90% rate in this country that the left is all too happy to remind us. After all, she's living in a house she didn't build and eating food she didn't buy and using utilities she doesn't pay for.
I'm in no way justifying the treatment this poor woman received, and my example is an extreme one to expand on cathoris's (I always read your name in my head as catharsis, sorry) point. A point that I'm sure will be missed so flame away.
UncleBuck
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looks like you've become a walking contradiction, mr. blacks-should-have-bought-land-somewhere-that-they-didn't-have-to-sit-on-the-back-of-the-bus.
UncleBuck
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that 90% top marginal tax rate was only on income above a certain level, smarty. i bet you could work 24/7/365 for the wages she was earning and never get to that top marginal level.
but nice try. you might want to consider keeping yer yapper shut next time so as to not remove all doubt.
ginwilly
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So you're saying it depends on who you take from before we judge whether it's wrong or right? Sorry, of course you are. It's consistent with crimes being measured as to what age/sex/religion/sexual orientation/socio-economic group they are in. Consistent by being inconsistent.
Cheesus should be along any minute to miss the point too.
Cheesus should be along any minute to miss the point too.
I don't even like reading Ayn Rand, she writes poorly. However, her point is still valid.
Oh, so this is an example of that social contract thing I keep hearing about?
I call self defenselooks like you've become a walking contradiction, mr. blacks-should-have-bought-land-somewhere-that-they-didn't-have-to-sit-on-the-back-of-the-bus.
UncleBuck
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if you're referring to hate crimes, those are judged by intent and motive, just like almost all crimes already are. hence why there are different punishments for killing your wife in a fit of rage after catching her banging a big black burly guy versus hiring a big burly black guy hitman to take out your wife.
UncleBuck
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i call you a petulant child with an ayn rand complex.I call self defense
I am sure the dead wife(you know, the victim) gives a fuck what the motives were.
UncleBuck
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dead people don't think or care, but society and the justice system does.
is there anything we can discuss that you would actually have a clue on?
ginwilly
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Justice is blind when done right. Your form of justice is just that. YOUR form. The prejudice just oozes from you. You felt the need to make it a big black guy so it seems worse than just cheating with a white guy. So obviously in your eyes it is. I'd rather have equal laws, not laws made by people in the name of fairness. Those same people are stereotypically the arrogant, bigoted, selfish, self-important, intolerant type who attempt to force what they feel is "fair" on everyone else. I don't trust those people. i bet they have shifty eyes too.
UncleBuck
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the black interloper and the black hitman were just to jazz things up and lubricate the spring mechanism on the trap.
should someone who accidentally kills someone by hitting them with their car be given the same punishment as someone who planned out and executed a grisly murder? i mean, the victim is just as dead in both cases, right?
ginwilly
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Negligent homicide carries a different term than 1st degree murder, but you knew that. Does spam cost as much as Kobe beef? They are both meat and have as much relevance as your example.
To understand how prejudice the laws you want are you would have to compare the sentence you want for 1st degree murder if the victim is minority du jour compared to a victim of the same age/race/gender/sexual orientation/political affiliation/socio-economic class as the assailant.
You compare two completely different crimes and say "see?, all crimes are not equal". Well of course. You still haven't justified why you think the same exact crimes should be treated differently based on who the victim is. To think like this, you are placing different worth on each victim's life. That's pretty bigoted.
nontheist
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Oh he can do much better than that, he is about two pages from comparing it to Saxons or some stupid shit. His straw man arguments are so fucking humorous we could get paid to put them in Hallmark cards.
UncleBuck
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whether or not something is treated as a hate crime has nothing to do with the factors you mentioned. it has to do with intent and motive, which again, we ALREADY assign different penalties depending on intent and motive. someone who accidentally kills your wife with their car because the glare was in their eyes and they didn't see her walking had no intent nor motive to kill your wife, so he gets a lesser sentence than the big burly black guy who killed your wife because you put out a contract hit on her.
however, if the big burly black guy kills your gay filipino husband while screaming "die choomboy faggot!", he was pretty clearly motivated by hate to some degree.
i happen to think that a crime is more heinous when it was motivated in some way by hatred like that, and again, we already assign differing penalties based on different intents and different motives.
again, hate crimes are not based on who the victim and the assailant were, it is based on the intents and motives of the assailant. how do you not understand this?
UncleBuck
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how badly does your butt hurt right now?
nontheist
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I bet it isn't as raw as your tongue kudos on a fine job.