Which do you think produces the better weed... Hydro or Soil .....Speak your peace...

Not asking what type of set up or indoor or outdoor.....Not asking what strain would be growing.....nor CFLs or any other type of lighting..... Just plan and simple question - If both set ups were done exactly the same way which would produce the better weed - in Soil or Hydro.....?...... Thanks every body

I am a hydro grower so I am going to say hydro.

Hydro will grow faster than soil or soiless, but what do so you mean by better? More weight? More THC? Bigger, juicier, tighter buds (damn I am getting excited...lol)? I'd think whichever medium allows you to deliver exactly the amount of nutrients the plant needs would be the best. Let me know, eh

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I think it's the grower.I grow hydro and my weeds heaps better than lots of soil grows, but I'm sure there are tons of soil growers with better weed than me.But for me, in my experiences, I grow better buds in hydro.

My organic soil weed is better than my hydro weed. It is not even close.
The dispensaries with the best weed here in CO tend to be soil or organic soil.

My organic soil Banana Kush x Blue dream kicked my stoner ass yesterday with only a 1.5 week cure.
A costco sample lady threatened to call security on me and I came home with nothing on my list.

R u serious if that story is true u handled it wrong u do have rights even if u are illegally high. That lady should have heard some cus words in a very polite way.

Organics soil taste better, i like hydro more

Hydro you have more control, this is no contest. No soil grow will give you the production or resin or high you get from a experienced hydro grower

I use cior/perlite pots on a flood table to flood 2x per day. the res is 100% organic and I have put it in check by massive amounts of citric acid and elemental sulfur - very cool at pH 6.4 stabilized to drift 0.1ph once a week.. 3000-5000ppm black tea, ACT-brew; blood, bone, seaweed, guano, humic acid, azomite, ect.. It sits, non-aerated, in a 27-gallon res, and does not smell like death..

When I brewed the tea for 2 weeks, the smell of death was powerful. The citrus acid and elemental sulfur converted the bad bacteria into something the plants can use, I don't know what exactly, but my plants have never been healthier and there is no more death smell.. 2-3 ounces from each half-gallon container.

They are flushed and the smoke is delicious..

You should not brew tea for two weeks, it just rots.
36 hours is just right for tea.
If it smells crappy, it is crappy.
Flushing, lol

Frosty125 said:

R u serious if that story is true u handled it wrong u do have rights even if u are illegally high. That lady should have heard some cus words in a very polite way.

Organics soil taste better, i like hydro more

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I grabbed a couple more sample and said I am calling security.

Dirty Jerz said:

Hydro you have more control, this is no contest. No soil grow will give you the production or resin or high you get from a experienced hydro grower

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The reason I switched to soil organic is because a guy I know was growing in organic soil and his plants were doing about as well as mine in coco.

I have no doubt in my mind that hydro is a tiny bit faster and may produce a bit more.

I do not care. I am out for quality, not quantity. Hydro is for pot dealers, no offense to pot dealers, I used to need them.

I grow hydro in a toilet and use the flush and drain method. my plants get flushed three times a day! my weed tastes like shit!

It's kind of a subjective thing but not counting speed or yield and going simply off of taste and smell, I think soil has an edge (especially if grown ogranically). That being said, I grow in coco as I don't think the difference in taste and smell make up for the extra time and lower yield. Especially because I don't think there is any difference in potency either way...

hoonry said:

I grow hydro in a toilet and use the flush and drain method. my plants get flushed three times a day! my weed tastes like shit!

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Thanks for the chuckle ! That was good.

Trousers said:

You should not brew tea for two weeks, it just rots.
36 hours is just right for tea.
If it smells crappy, it is crappy.
Flushing, lol

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This is the general state of mind regarding this subject. I, however, am a veteran on growing cannabis and I know what I am talking about when I say the 10%-15% meals can be further broken down before they are added to the medium. I would not suggest it if I was getting poor results, if you think your results are better, that is fine, don't judge mine - please.


I have tested the act brews for many years. I have found that if I brew the organics for weeks, they stabilize the pH to 7.8, due to pathogenic microbes. The large amounts of citrus acid during the last week of brewing will kill the putrefaction and reduce the pH to around 4 or slightly less, depending on how strong the brew is. This will do an acidic sterilization and the citric acid will convert via the Krebs cycle into more usable microbes, nutrients, and elements. When the pH begins to raise again, I add crushed elemental sulfur. After a couple more days, the pH stabilizes and holds at about 6.4 or so for my medium. The pH needs adjusting with citrus acid about 1x per week, it goes off by about pH0.1. The citrus acid restarts the Krebs cycle and gives an immediate form of pH down. Keep in mind, citrus acid is pH 1.4. so it`s fucking heavy shit...


Some jackass actually suggested using the acid from a lead battery.. What a dumb fuck.. LEAD POISONING!

The Coir / Perlite medium is ultra light, a half-gallon pot would have a wet weight of about 2 or 3lbs - This is too aerated for anaerobic microbes to live. My "tea" is black, the res water is black, it does not smell like death or shit, it works.

I grew in soil when I was young and strong and didn't mind haulin' around all that heavy dirt. Now that I'm an old fart...I do hydro and let pumps do all the work.

But regarding smoke quality...I feel it's all in the cure.
JD

pSi007 said:

This is the general state of mind regarding this subject. I, however, am a veteran on growing cannabis and I know what I am talking about when I say the 10%-15% meals can be further broken down before they are added to the medium. I would not suggest it if I was getting poor results, if you think your results are better, that is fine, don't judge mine - please.

I have tested the act brews for many years. I have found that if I brew the organics for weeks, they stabilize the pH to 7.8, due to pathogenic microbes. The large amounts of citrus acid during the last week of brewing will kill the putrefaction and reduce the pH to around 4 or slightly less, depending on how strong the brew is. This will do an acidic sterilization and the citric acid will convert via the Krebs cycle into more usable microbes, nutrients, and elements. When the pH begins to raise again, I add crushed elemental sulfur. After a couple more days, the pH stabilizes and holds at about 6.4 or so for my medium. The pH needs adjusting with citrus acid about 1x per week, it goes off by about pH0.1. The citrus acid restarts the Krebs cycle and gives an immediate form of pH down. Keep in mind, citrus acid is pH 1.4. so it`s fucking heavy shit...
Some jackass actually suggested using the acid from a lead battery.. What a dumb fuck.. LEAD POISONING!

The Coir / Perlite medium is ultra light, a half-gallon pot would have a wet weight of about 2 or 3lbs - This is too aerated for anaerobic microbes to live. My "tea" is black, the res water is black, it does not smell like death or shit, it works.

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Well, actually it's pretty much the fact of the matter. An AACT is for proliferating beneficial microbes, and the greatest diversity (of bacteria/archae/fungi/protozoa) of organisms is generally found after between 24-36 hours. Initially bacteria/archae divide very rapidly and fungal hyphae grow out, then the protozoan population explodes in response to the increase in bacteria. Much after 72 hours the tea is likely starting to go sour. Depending on what kind of equipment you are using to brew, air stones for example, you really shouldn't try to brew over 36 hours. Aquarium air stones can very easily become clogged up with organic matter and bio-slime, impeding aeration, and can contaminate future brews if re-used. Sufficient dissolved oxygen is absolutely required for a healthy AACT. Other folks out there have done even more thorough testing of AACT, and they have expensive microscopes and microscopy/biology experience.

The Krebs cycle doesn't convert anything into microbes... aerobic organisms including microbes can make their own citrate, via the TCA cycle, which results in energy in the form of ATP. Glycolysis of glucose yields pyruvate, it is decarboxylated by pyruvate dehydrogenase resulting in acetyl-CoA. This is actually how the cycle begins, an acetyl group is donated from acetyl-CoA to oxaloacetate (another product of the cycle) and guess what you've got? Citrate! Oxaloacetate is always regenerated at the end of the cycle, hence why it is a cycle.

BTW the pH of citric acid is about 2.

Applepie/vanilla icecream said:

Not asking what type of set up or indoor or outdoor.....Not asking what strain would be growing.....nor CFLs or any other type of lighting..... Just plan and simple question - If both set ups were done exactly the same way which would produce the better weed - in Soil or Hydro.....?...... Thanks every body

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Soil and hydro are too fundamentally different to be done "exactly the same".

to be honest i kind of view this as a stand off. they are simply two mediums, however most times soil is grown outdoors in the glory of the sun vs hydro indoors with lights attempting to match it. personally i would love to grow hydroponically in a greenhouse with backup lights run at night.

but there is so much that comes into play in this, how the plant is treated, what type of nutrients and soil and how much co2 and how much light exposure what kind of light air circulation humidity pest's single cola, topping, strength vs yield, time for growth, space. etc etc.

From how i see it...

Plants grow based off the roots condition and what you make avail for the roots to uptake. If you have a synthetic nute that can provide the same nutrients as amended soil with tea or whatever than what is the difference when it comes to smoking it? Not saying they make synthetic nutes which can provide same as all organic amended soil but just saying i dont see a difference in the setups except that hydro can make food always available and that gets better growth.

If there is no such nutes that can have all the food avail for roots to take up all the time for hydro than organic soil has it perks when it comes to quality.

not to mention there are different systems to hydroponically farm (ebb n flo dwc etc) and no one has mentioned aeroponics in here yet.

pSI007 wrote: Some jackass actually suggested using the acid from a lead battery.. What a dumb fuck.. LEAD POISONING!

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Battery acid purchased from an auto parts store is perfectly pure (no lead). I suspect you misread the post and applied your hysterical illogic. Sulfuric acid is used as a ph down regularly...both for ganja and commercial hydroponics.
JD