Where Are The Pure Sativa Strains At?!

I started a strain called African Buzz from Single Seed Centre recently. It says it may have been called Malawi Gold at one time. Can't comment on the smoke yet, BUT it is definately Sativa. I have some Atomic Haze and Utopia Haze going as well. The Buzz looks even more sativa than those 2 but they've been crossed. I too was looking for a sativa that someone didn't fuck up with NL5 or Skunk#1 or whatever else they wanted for whatever reason. The bank I mentioned has a lot of seeds and you can get singles. Also if you search for Burmese, Cambodian, or Thai a lot of sativas come up.

wannabe grower said:

I started a strain called African Buzz from Single Seed Centre recently. It says it may have been called Malawi Gold at one time. Can't comment on the smoke yet, BUT it is definately Sativa. I have some Atomic Haze and Utopia Haze going as well. The Buzz looks even more sativa than those 2 but they've been crossed. I too was looking for a sativa that someone didn't fuck up with NL5 or Skunk#1 or whatever else they wanted for whatever reason. The bank I mentioned has a lot of seeds and you can get singles. Also if you search for Burmese, Cambodian, or Thai a lot of sativas come up.

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I've currently shifted my focus from PURE sativas to very masterfully done sativa dominant hYBRIDS that are stable and react well in cooler climates. chocolope seems good biut I haven't tried it high wise.


pretty much I think it's completely possible that the breeding community can achieve a more weather tolerant sativa with a wirey, spacey, visual (one of the three, or hybrids of the three highs etc) high.

so anyone who has some insight into strains that have VERY pronounced sativa highs but perform like hybrids, I am very interested.

JTR oh yah JTR

prolly the shortest flowering haze i have come across and doesnt loose the trippy high not a bit of indica in the feel in any of the pheno's i had

and its super sturdy and strong

Unnk said:

JTR oh yah JTR

prolly the shortest flowering haze i have come across and doesnt loose the trippy high not a bit of indica in the feel in any of the pheno's i had

and its super sturdy and strong


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jack the ripper huh. TGA genetics?

if your lookin for a hybrid that is seriously intense high in such a short time

if your still in line for a pure satty Phnom Penh all the way from Reeferman

Methinks afropips is out of business.

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that's because afropips is no longer on this plane of existence. +REP in peace afropips. your gear was legendary!

it's not only hard to find pure sativas anymore because everything's been polluted by indicas to some degree or another, but many of the breeders that actually sell them are SKETCHY! i got absolutely NOTHING from my pack of delta 9 labs' mekong haze or vancouver island seedbank burmese! i've seen a furious rant over seedsman's malawi gold and have heard grumbling about reeferman's gear too.

i HAVE heard good things about world of seeds' gear and want to test their 75% columbian gold to see how it measures up to the real deal.

there are breeders out there making really good hazes. i love high quality seeds' haze x skunk. it's not as sensually trippy as columbian gold, but it's defintely more potent and probably long lasting too anf from everything i've read about TGA's jack the ripper & sannies' killing fields, those can't be shabby either.

sativa seeds' gear shouldn't be shabby. their oaxican eldorado is supposed to be pure, though it sounds more like euphoric panama red & acapulco gold than trippy columbian and i can at least say that their highland thai full moon totally lives up to EVERYTHING i've read about thai. it's slow, stretchy, hates 3 gallon pots, and will turn hermie if it isn't happy (had to cut mine down indoors when it FINALLY started flowering & spraying everything else) but it also had the AUTHENTIC tutti fruity (juicy fruit gum) flavor real thai does and not the grapes of hazes or blueberry. i only got a stony buzz out of mine, but it was probably light starved as well as but got the lowdown that it IS in fact trippy from someone here that's finished it.

i really like high quality seeds' haze x skunk. it has just a hint of lead eye, but it's buzz is otherwise pure motivational euphoria with a decent level of psychoactivity and even more potency than columbian gold. that's the most IBL leaning smoke i've had so far since the 80s. nirvana's own H19 skunk looked even more IBL though and might have had less lead eye and more trippy visuals. it's discontinued, but i wouldn't be surprised if they didn't just move it to their sativa seeds' line & rename it haze #1 the same way they renamed their oaxican strain eldorado when they moved that.

i only sampled mandala's 8 miles high early in flowering, but loved it's energy neutral euphoric buzz a lot. it might not have been as potent as haze x skunk, but i think it had more psychoactivity as it really loved music and i ended up dancing the robot on it and had a really cool body effect that felt like super precise body control leaning into columbian gold territory. it had absolutely no couchlock either. just playful euphoria & motivation.

it's hard finding IBLs for sure, but there are still a few sources if you can grow them and there are plenty of hybrids that aren't at all shabby. short stuff's autoflowering super cali haze has the same clearheaded euphoric & energetic buzz as well as delicious grapey flavor i got from a 1/2 gram of "real" i was gifted. i couldn't tell the difference without side by side testing.

i'll try and report back on WoSs columbian gold to see how it compares to 100% cali grown. i'd expect more couchlock and more resin and probably potency but hopefully no less psychoactivity, though i'd expect the light floaty feeling of columbian to get weighted down by whatever indy they used.

sannies' killing fields sounds like it might live up to it's IBL roots better than mekong haze does even if cannabible makes it sound like the trippiest strain in the world, but what good is that if you can't get the beans to pop?

THIS is the exact reason i have so much contempt for cash crapping indicas. you can't get away from them on most streets and they've pushed so many awesome IBLs into extinction in pure form
cambidian
vietnamese blackseed
kerala
columbian gold
panama red
acapulco gold
michiocan
burmese
&
hawaiian
etc.

thanks for refusing to give into the evil forces that want you too tired and stoopid to fight back as they pick your pocket bro! those of left who refuse to surrender to couchlock have to grow & breed what we can to preserve it and encourage the few breeders out there who put at least as much love in their gear as greed.

i haven't smoked ANYTHING that can top columbian gold's psychoactivity, but so far, i'm really happy with haze skunk, super cali haze & 8 miles high and plan to test as much indoor doable mind expanding gear as i can until i find a secure spot i can stealth some IBLs.

i've always drooled over the strains in reeferman's collection, but i'd like to see some reports on that gear before i go pissing money away as i have with delta 9 & VISC on IBLs.

hazey grapes said:

that's because afropips is no longer on this plane of existence. +REP in peace afropips. your gear was legendary!

it's not only hard to find pure sativas anymore because everything's been polluted by indicas to some degree or another, but many of the breeders that actually sell them are SKETCHY! i got absolutely NOTHING from my pack of delta 9 labs' mekong haze or vancouver island seedbank burmese! i've seen a furious rant over seedsman's malawi gold and have heard grumbling about reeferman's gear too.

i HAVE heard good things about world of seeds' gear and want to test their 75% columbian gold to see how it measures up to the real deal.

there are breeders out there making really good hazes. i love high quality seeds' haze x skunk. it's not as sensually trippy as columbian gold, but it's defintely more potent and probably long lasting too anf from everything i've read about TGA's jack the ripper & sannies' killing fields, those can't be shabby either.

sativa seeds' gear shouldn't be shabby. their oaxican eldorado is supposed to be pure, though it sounds more like euphoric panama red & acapulco gold than trippy columbian and i can at least say that their highland thai full moon totally lives up to EVERYTHING i've read about thai. it's slow, stretchy, hates 3 gallon pots, and will turn hermie if it isn't happy (had to cut mine down indoors when it FINALLY started flowering & spraying everything else) but it also had the AUTHENTIC tutti fruity (juicy fruit gum) flavor real thai does and not the grapes of hazes or blueberry. i only got a stony buzz out of mine, but it was probably light starved as well as but got the lowdown that it IS in fact trippy from someone here that's finished it.

i really like high quality seeds' haze x skunk. it has just a hint of lead eye, but it's buzz is otherwise pure motivational euphoria with a decent level of psychoactivity and even more potency than columbian gold. that's the most IBL leaning smoke i've had so far since the 80s. nirvana's own H19 skunk looked even more IBL though and might have had less lead eye and more trippy visuals. it's discontinued, but i wouldn't be surprised if they didn't just move it to their sativa seeds' line & rename it haze #1 the same way they renamed their oaxican strain eldorado when they moved that.

i only sampled mandala's 8 miles high early in flowering, but loved it's energy neutral euphoric buzz a lot. it might not have been as potent as haze x skunk, but i think it had more psychoactivity as it really loved music and i ended up dancing the robot on it and had a really cool body effect that felt like super precise body control leaning into columbian gold territory. it had absolutely no couchlock either. just playful euphoria & motivation.

it's hard finding IBLs for sure, but there are still a few sources if you can grow them and there are plenty of hybrids that aren't at all shabby. short stuff's autoflowering super cali haze has the same clearheaded euphoric & energetic buzz as well as delicious grapey flavor i got from a 1/2 gram of "real" i was gifted. i couldn't tell the difference without side by side testing.

i'll try and report back on WoSs columbian gold to see how it compares to 100% cali grown. i'd expect more couchlock and more resin and probably potency but hopefully no less psychoactivity, though i'd expect the light floaty feeling of columbian to get weighted down by whatever indy they used.

sannies' killing fields sounds like it might live up to it's IBL roots better than mekong haze does even if cannabible makes it sound like the trippiest strain in the world, but what good is that if you can't get the beans to pop?

THIS is the exact reason i have so much contempt for cash crapping indicas. you can't get away from them on most streets and they've pushed so many awesome IBLs into extinction in pure form
cambidian
vietnamese blackseed
kerala
columbian gold
panama red
acapulco gold
michiocan
burmese
&
hawaiian
etc.

thanks for refusing to give into the evil forces that want you too tired and stoopid to fight back as they pick your pocket bro! those of left who refuse to surrender to couchlock have to grow & breed what we can to preserve it and encourage the few breeders out there who put at least as much love in their gear as greed.

i haven't smoked ANYTHING that can top columbian gold's psychoactivity, but so far, i'm really happy with haze skunk, super cali haze & 8 miles high and plan to test as much indoor doable mind expanding gear as i can until i find a secure spot i can stealth some IBLs.

i've always drooled over the strains in reeferman's collection, but i'd like to see some reports on that gear before i go pissing money away as i have with delta 9 & VISC on IBLs.

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please make any seeds of anything you got worth keeping sativa wise...


I'm really hoping other serious breeders get in on this... I think hardy sativas can be bred if breeders are motivated enough for it and know what they're looking for... but it isn't gonna be just /any/ breeders, gonna be people who already know what a pure sativa high feels like, so they can isolate that most of all....

because I think half the problem sithat most people don't even know what a true sativa high feels like.

because I think half the problem sithat most people don't even know what a true sativa high feels like.

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preach it brother! preach it! you don't know how many trolls i've had to argue with in 2 forums before this one because i STARTED OUT smoking california grown columbian gold and INSTANTLY hated "never gets you anything close to high" indicas as soon as they invaded. my mantra is "get me high or fuck off & die!" and i've told probably a couple dozen dealers just that by now the second they give me a peep of drama over their $50 an EIGTH schwag when i was paying just $40 a QUARTER for gold one year before the invasion.

i get annoyed by people who refuse to acknowledge that in most markets, you can't find gear that gets you high ANYWHERE. in parts of NY, all you can get is variations on afghani! i'm talking shit is soooooooooo lame, you can't even find a decent mid like blueberry! the more trolls i argue with, the more pissed i get with indica's polluting every single corner of the weed universe and even after telling the story of how i stopped talking to a cousin i grew up with for bugging out and threatening me because i honestly told him i was not at all impressed with his same old same stony "sticky bud" when he honestly believed "all weed is exactly the same!" and didn't want to hear shit about how real gold smoked.

i hate the scene so much and ever speedbump mofo that defends it. it's all about greed. purveyors of indicrap are just out to make a fast buck with no real pride in their gear and i HAVE heard tell of cash crappers buying THEIR GEAR from BETTER growers in it for the love! what does THAT say about cash crapper strains when greedy fucks growing it are too high & mighty to smoke their own gear?! ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!!!!!!!

if course, even when i try approaching the conspiracy from a different angle using FACTS, trolls still fight against getting high or anyone fighting back for it. that's what eventually led to my getting banned twice... sneaky peace of shit trolls playing power games. at overgrow, they baited and narked and at grasscity pulled up an old thread from before i changed my name (PUBLICALLY with the knowledge of a mod!) to get another mod to ban me for "having 2 accounts" when i told the 1st one to delete the one i didn't want.

oh shit... i'm getting all worked up again and even forgot my point! LOL i did a 1-5 survey with 1 being demands getting high, 2 = prefers it, 3 = likes both or a balanced buzz, 4 = prefers getting stoned & 5 demands to get stoned and #5 had the least votes with about a 5% total leaning towards the side of getting high with a solid 20% or so demanding it even after i spotted stoner bud 2 half points! if statistically, the demand for getting high is slightly MORE than stoned, then why can you spend thousands of dollars and 25 years plus on greedy fucks that NEVER GET YOU HIGH EVER?

i swear there's a satanic conspiracy of greed from the street peddlers funding their pimped out rides on our money all the way up to the corporate slime at anhauser busch, philip morris & pharmaceuticals etc. that don't want anyone to get high and just be stoned fucking robots. what happened when weed got you high? hippies saw through the corporate shell game and how fugly the culture it vomits on the masses is, dropped out, found jesus and lived on communes.

to me, indicas are the work of the red one. they're purpose is to blind you and make you too apathetic to just enjoy a nice sunny day. their purpose is to keep you so dissatisfied with life you keep buying crap to fill the hole in your life cause by a culture detached from being a decent empathetic person. MAYBE... the descriptions of heaven are REALLY god travelling forward in time to try and steer people towards getting high and being hippies. getting stoned turns you into lead and we all know what happens when you go down. LOL

getting high is simply THE enemy of the greedy corporate dragon that MUST be slain to save this planet. i'm not just talking about the medicinal, recreational & thought/action provoking qualities either. hemp fibers are stronger than timber and something like 20x more renewable with the side benefit of enriching the soil with nitrogen, but the evil one want to drive the world into oblivion through greed and destruction.

it's nice to be here and see i'm not the only one who not only grasps the situation, but that cares enough to stand up and do whatever i can in my little part of the world.

why is mandala's gear so righteous and his prices so nice? he's OLD SCHOOL and in it for the love! we need more of that to turn the evil empire around and drive it into the sea it polluted with BP oil.

yes... i've got issues.

i'd have a lot fewer if i were able to ever fucking get high again!

as to indoor strains that smoke like IBLs, C99 has the same euphoric & racy buzz of more IBL kali mist if not sharing the delicious spicy crushed red pepper flavor. mosca's gear is supposedly trippy even. i'll have to report on joey weed's 50 day C99 x A11, but expect it to at least be in the ballpark of a decent IBL buzz and hopefully actually LESS racy as you could easily chill out on columbian gold where it's hard to do on racy C99 & kali mist.

i LOVE the buzz from mandala's 8 miles high. it has such a perfectly neutral energy profile, at least in early flowering that it's like there's a hole you expect couchlock or raciness to be in. it's a really classy effect when you add it's hazy euphoria and motivation and i dare say even early it has a little more sensory effects than super cali haze & haze x skunk. it really liked music and i ended up dancing to tunes on it & doing the robot and even feeling like one a little bit with super precise body control. it was just a perfectly balanced 24/7 blissed out playful buzz. i'd call it something like columbian gold with the volume turned down to 7 or 8, but i wonder how much better it would have gotten with more flowering time.

super cali haze has the same THC profile and grapey taste as the 1/2 gram of "pure" (?) i was gifted. i couldn't tell any difference without a side by side. it's more euphoric & clearheaded than trippy, but not at all shabby & the flavor is just too delicious! it beats blueberry in every way except yield maybe

haze x skunk by high quality seeds is the most potent IBL leaning indoor strain i've ever smoked. it has more psychoactivity than super cali did and definitely more potency than gold, but not so much of the light floating & sensual high that it and to a lesser extent 8 miles have. it's definitely motivational & cerebral and not shabby in the euphoria department either. the buzz lasts a couple hours and once you start wake & baking on it, it builds up in your system until you start waking up with a light buzz that eventually goes all day. then, it starts turning toxic on you giving you a low grade nausea along the lines of the dreaded spinning room effect, but so low that you just tune that (or hunger pangs... i started dieting on it by just keeping busy) by keeping busy. i also love it for getting me off the beer. i really want to try other haze/thai x skunk #1/lemon skunk/cheese crosses to see if any of them have better taste, psychoactivity or even yield. i can't say it's annoying cigar wrapper with hints of ashtray (cheese pheno?) flavor is my favorite. i think a lemon haze is more my speed.

i love that this forum not only emphasizes smoke reporting where you can't find ANY reports in other forums even when you ask and that i'm not the only one here vocal about strains that get you high in a world where it's highly improbable now

as to making seeds, i've already crossed joey weed C99 to itself, super cali haze, haze skunk & LSD and am considering breeding as many of these JW C99 x A11s as i realistically can when i have a location in december hopefully

Cindy A x Cindy A (Joey Weed) = Tomboy
Cindy A x Super Cali Haze (Short Stuff) = Ultraviolet
Cindy A x (Cindy x Cindy) = Cynthia
Cindy A x (Cindy x Super Cali Haze) = California Girl
Cindy A x (Cindy x Haze Skunk) = Wallflower
Cindy A x (Cindy x LSD) = Hippie Chick
Cindy A x Eldorado (Sativa Seeds) = Latina
Cindy A x Urban Poison (Sativa Seeds) = Ghetto Fabulous
Cindy A x Kali Mist (Serious Seeds) = Hottie
Cindy A x Cindy Blueberry (Joey Weed) = Cupcake
Cindy A x SAGE (Sativa Seeds) = Nerd Gurl
Cindy A x Laughing Buddha (Barney's Farm) = Tickled Pink
Cindy A x Jilly Bean (TGA Subcool) = Candy-O
Cindy A x Sweet Deep Grapefruit (Dinafem) = Fruitcake
Cindy A x Haze Skunk (High Quality Seeds) = Cuntfart
Cindy A x 8 Miles High (Mandala) = Fly Girl
Cindy A x Gnomo (Kannabia) = Shorty
Cindy A x Auto Jack (Female Seeds) = Mindy
Cindy A x Thai Fantasy (Kannabia Seeds) = Cindyland
Cindy A x Columbian Gold (World of Seeds) = Golden Girl

i'd like some feedback on the crosses lovers of getting high would most like to see. i'm pretty sure i'm going to downsize the grow and probably save the fruitier strains for crossing with (C99 x A11) x super cali or C99 x super cali

growyurown said:

Jack herer was a crazy grow. Probably the most high maintance plants I've grown but it kicked ass and was speedy. Just my 2 cents

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Jack Herer is a good up high and its strong, but I've had the kind of weed that can make you hallucinate and Jack Herer was not it for me. YMMV. It was a classic some old hippie sells you a bag of grass that blows your mind kind of a deal for me. Been searching for it ever since, so I like this thread.

OGEvilgenius said:

Jack Herer is a good up high and its strong, but I've had the kind of weed that can make you hallucinate and Jack Herer was not it for me. YMMV. It was a classic some old hippie sells you a bag of grass that blows your mind kind of a deal for me. Been searching for it ever since, so I like this thread.

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I definnitely welcome all people like yourself into this thread, even if you don't know of sativa strains now, if you've tried a TRUE one that was epic.. you have a memory, which is important to me... because how do we know we have it if we don't have people who have the experience to be sure???

so welcome to the thread

I'm afraid the only name I have for what I smoked is what myself and my friends termed "The Bright Green Happy Weed". Because it made you laugh in moderate doses and you always felt good. Never built tolerance really. The more you smoked the more lifted you got. We sat around smoking some joints (we had a couple pounds of the stuff) with some friends and one guy started to freak out and accused of lacing it with something... big native american guy around 350lbs, somewhat scary moment... he chain smoked like 5 joints and he was totally out of his mind. Managed to calm him down with some help from friends lol.

OGEvilgenius said:

I'm afraid the only name I have for what I smoked is what myself and my friends termed "The Bright Green Happy Weed". Because it made you laugh in moderate doses and you always felt good. Never built tolerance really. The more you smoked the more lifted you got. We sat around smoking some joints (we had a couple pounds of the stuff) with some friends and one guy started to freak out and accused of lacing it with something... big native american guy around 350lbs, somewhat scary moment... he chain smoked like 5 joints and he was totally out of his mind. Managed to calm him down with some help from friends lol.

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you need to get some seeds of that shit and send some my way

only time ive tried true sativa was once when i was 18 (some imported stuff from america, dude claimed he found it growing in some forest lol (single plant under a tree, looked "wild" he said))
that was pretty good shit, we went out dancing.

and then when i was in vietnam last year, hehehe stems and leaves and tiny buds but a few tokes of that and you were flying with colors (kinda if it was dark and you smoked alot, there were "colors" in the shadows) superparanoid on it at first (didnt help that cops beat the shit out of smokers there and kick foreigners out of the country (but the hotel staff actually warned me if police came around, so that was damn cool)

and later on i was just superhigh and happy making music or taking a walk on some mountain or pagoda on a mountain lol (pretty neat places, ancient almost overgrown serene places) or at the beach (amazing beaches and no sharks) really friendly people too.

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only time ive tried true sativa was once when i was 18 (some imported stuff from america, dude claimed he found it growing in some forest lol (single plant under a tree, looked "wild" he said))
that was pretty good shit, we went out dancing.

and then when i was in vietnam last year, hehehe stems and leaves and tiny buds but a few tokes of that and you were flying with colors (kinda if it was dark and you smoked alot, there were "colors" in the shadows) superparanoid on it at first (didnt help that cops beat the shit out of smokers there and kick foreigners out of the country (but the hotel staff actually warned me if police came around, so that was damn cool)

and later on i was just superhigh and happy making music or taking a walk on some mountain or pagoda on a mountain lol (pretty neat places, ancient almost overgrown serene places) or at the beach (amazing beaches and no sharks) really friendly people too.

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wow



please go back to vietnam for me and get some sativa seeds pleeaassseeee


ahahaha

Check out kos seed company. They r on hemp depot and few other spots. It rev from skunk mag and greenman420 they r super legit. And some of their gear sounds up ur ally

asian IBLs are among the trippiest in the world, not just vietnamese blackseed or even thai, but cambodian is supposed to be extra trippy. if you could actually get the besns to pop unlike me and another member here, mekong haze should be seriously trippy gear. i SWEAR there's a conspiracy to wipe trippy shit out! i'm not smoking & paranoid either. all i know is that i got NADA out of my mekong haze & burmese beans and have seen another person get shanked on seedsman's malawi gold and now the purveyor of LEGIT malawi gold, afropips is no longer with us. +REP in peace afropips

world of seeds' gear keeps getting thumbs ups every time i see someone talking about them and i'm keen to try their 75% columbian gold and see if it's THC profile is anything like real or just another awesome strain too polluted by the enemy of getting high, indica, to be noteworthy.

if you want some cambodian/vietnamese style gear that i've seen nothing but raves for including one person calling it "talk to your dog" weed, check out sannies killing fields. man do i ever hate that name. as much as i'd love to try it, i don't want it's name spoken in my peace luvin' garden.

so this thread seems to have evolved into SAVE THE TRUE SATIVA>... we need to start a movement within the breeding community hazey.

those who truly love sativas HAVE been doing just that, only quietly in the shadows. i tell you, i don't know exactly what i smoked, and couldn't buy with any amount of begging, a few years ago, but it tasted a lot like columbian giving me a flavor flashback and after clearing a 3 foot chamber and woofing until i puked a little, i got the dizzies compounded by "get me the fuck outta here!" bummer paranoia over one of my hosts playing freakin' guitar hero & heavy metal i wanted to ask him to turn the eff off. it was a lot like gold and i just bumped into it on the street.

if you read cannabible, there's a ton of growers out there doing old school IBLs. i just wish they'd talk to some seedbanks & share their gear.

now, more than ever though, you're right, we've gotta preserve what's left. i'm still so bummed about the passing of afropips. his malawi gold was about THE most promising IBL out there.

more than preserving the strains, i like to just try promoting them and breaking everyone's annoying "go with the flow" indica slumber that allows stoner bud to just keep steam rolling over quality in favor of dollar chasing quantity. the very things used as pro indica propaganda, even today like red hairs, skunk bud, sticky bud or rock nugs are NOT bag appeal traits to me. i just now decided to call them SCHWAG appeal!