When to take cuttings on perpetual grows?

So I have about two weeks of veg left. I am using a aeroponic cloner. When would be a good time to take the cuts? I don’t want my veg tent to be out of control before the flower tent is finished. I have a 2x4 veg tent and a 4x4 flower tent. Should I take them now, Or wait a week or so?

Could you not just go OCD on veg tent management and training? I used to do what you're talking about but took cuts the day I moved plants in to flower. Cuts would chill in the cloner for ~2 weeks and then I'd put them in small pots of coco for the next 45 days or so until they too were ready to flower.

It always worked, but I never felt like I really got it down to a science. My veg tents were always out of control because I didn't manage them well. And I struggled with veg tent pot size for 45 days of growth. Solo cups worked (coco) but it definitely wasn't preferred for 45 days. They were a pain in the ass to water and often tipped over, and the plants never as healthy as they would have been in something slightly larger.

If I could do it again I'd probably keep with the same thing but always use larger square pots for veg plants, learn to only select the healthiest clones instead of planting anything that rooted in a timely manner, and only let them bush out in the last 2-3 weeks of veg.

hour said:

Could you not just go OCD on veg tent management and training? I used to do what you're talking about but took cuts the day I moved plants in to flower. Cuts would chill in the cloner for ~2 weeks and then I'd put them in small pots of coco for the next 45 days or so until they too were ready to flower.

It always worked, but I never felt like I really got it down to a science. My veg tents were always out of control because I didn't manage them well. And I struggled with veg tent pot size for 45 days of growth. Solo cups worked (coco) but it definitely wasn't preferred for 45 days. They were a pain in the ass to water and often tipped over, and the plants never as healthy as they would have been in something slightly larger.

If I could do it again I'd probably keep with the same thing but always use larger square pots for veg plants, learn to only select the healthiest clones instead of planting anything that rooted in a timely manner, and only let them bush out in the last 2-3 weeks of veg.

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Yea I use 5 gallon pots with soil as medium. I was thinking of putting them in solo cups then move to 3 gallons. Then when I move them to flower tent I’ll transplant them into 5 gallons. I can wait till I move them to the flower tent to train under trellis net.

That is why I take air layered clones off the current veg plants, and don't even keep a mother plant anymore, or regular cuttings at all. The veg room IS the propagation center, without wasting time or money on another area, cloner system, rooting gear, or snake oil cloning products.. If you are keeping a mom, AL allows you to really keep it compact and bonsai'd, because you can take up to 50% of it at a time.

You can literally cut plants in half, and time it so the smaller half stays in the veg tent to root out ( before you AL it again), and the bigger rooted half missing the whole top go's directly to the flower tent

I plan it so that not only am I taking a clone that is 20 if not 30 times bigger than the average cutting (like 1-3 fters, meaning they're way bigger and ready to flower sooner with more roots), and the area of the host plant I take it from helps train it better to drop a scrog net on (right as you take the clones and put them in the flower room). The host plant and the air layer clone both, because you can actually also immediately start training the air layer before you even cut it away!

Once you dial it down with this technique, your always adding a full ready to go/scrog canopy to the flower tent, which stays on a 12/12 cycle the whole time, all while everything else stays managed and on schedule.

You can take clones from flowering plants. Roots take longer to shoot, and growth starts back up slower, but the plants grow like a hedge bush, so many tops with no topping. I always take clones from my flowering tent between weeks 3 and 4(about a week after i see the flowers pop). I have taken clones as late as week 7 of 12 12.

I'm tight on space myself, so I just wait and if the plant impresses me I'll steal a late clone. Just remember even tho you will get amazing growth, its gonna take about 2 weeks longer than a clone taken in veg, It has to revert back to veg, will start with single leafs, then 3 fingers, and on. Almost like from seed only difference is every branch will keep dividing into tops

It depends on how fast your plants bloom. I take cuts the same day I move the plants to flower so by the time they root and are transplanted they have 6 to 8 weeks to veg out. Some plants will grow/stretch faster than others so this depends on what you're growing.

My advice is buy a cheap composition book if you don't have one and start taking notes in it every time you do anything or notice anything. Date/time/strain then any notes. I've been able to dial in the genetics for 2022. I have to re-do it every year when I cycle out genetics for new ones.

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It depends on how fast your plants bloom. I take cuts the same day I move the plants to flower so by the time they root and are transplanted they have 6 to 8 weeks to veg out. Some plants will grow/stretch faster than others so this depends on what you're growing.

My advice is buy a cheap composition book if you don't have one and start taking notes in it every time you do anything or notice anything. Date/time/strain then any notes. I've been able to dial in the genetics for 2022. I have to re-do it every year when I cycle out genetics for new ones.

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It's nice to quote things like how long transition lasted, how long you veged for, what ec that specific plant likes, how long flower lasted, what you did with your nutrient charge and ph each feed, ect

I can relate to the op vegging for 3+ months eh no thanks it would be like a forrest by the time you harvest lol.

I prefer to let the mothers form a bud normally week 4/5 then clone them, after they root you can alter how quickly of slow they grow.

Small pot minimum trimming will take months to establish again, if you put them into a decent sized pot and trim away all the crap you can have them ready in 5/6 weeks.

Wk4-5 cut as flowering clones 66 days ago