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RichED

Well-Known Member
the water in couple days have to do ph adjust again because its off

how long should ph adjust hold started with tap now use rain water

some please help me here gardener since January that feels a good complete answer deserves reps

if you dont know the answer hang on to your words for someone else please

i have read a lot of responses from people that dont know what the hell they are talking about and should be readers like me instead of writers

thank you much for you knowledge and patients

peace out :peace:
 

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
First you have to realize that the pH is going to change daily as the nutrients are eaten. That means adjsuting it daily. Goal is that theose dily changes be slight and not major. And too, different sources of water yiled different pH problems.

You have to have pH balanced nutes, or a buffer or a stablizer in the water to keep it from roller coasting and spiking up and down.

I've done some research on pH Control and I 'd like to offer some advice and my opinion.

NEW growers worry about it too too much, and the biggest mistake they make is trying for a perfect contstant same pH.
You will do better, to just try to keep it between 5.6 and 6.8 without changing it often. Plants eat more nitrogen at 5.7 to 5.9 than at 6.7 to 6.9. But they eat more iron and magnisum at 6.5 to 6.8. You need a flucuating pH level for your plants to absorb different nutes at different levels.
When you get your water, add nutes and pH test it, no matter what the results, if it is between 5.6 and 6.4, leave it alone or only adjust it slightly by .1 to .2 down.
DO NOT PLAY the pH Game.
Do NOT ride the pH Roller Coaster.

It is bettr to be off, too high, or too low, than to adjust it too much at one time.


Drastic or FAST adjustments really mess up the entire system.
Adjust gradually, and slowly.





The pH should not vary more than .5 to .7 everyday, and if it does flucuate alot more up OR down daily, something is wrong.
First, ask yourself, IF growing in HYDRO, what is going into the tank? Water, Nutes, pH UP and Down should be it. Adding anything else, WHEN YOU DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM, is not the wisest thing to do.
(Yes, sometimes some small amount of peroxide or hydrozyme might be needed, but I've done 7 grows without it.)
And if you are making NUTE SOUP, ( a nute mix and supplement mix) I can not advise you about your pH.

Except for the very first time you add the water to the tank, You should pH balance your water FIRST, everytime, outside of the tank, then add the nutes, pH balance it again, then add it to the tank. It should not go up more than .5 within one day or 1.0 in two days.
If it does go up more in one day or two days, you got to do something to stablize it. After the first two or 3 weeks pass, and the plants are drinking a gallon a day, you can add one gallon back that is over adjusted or over compensated, to get it back down. FOR EXAMPLE, If the tank is reading 7.2, then add one gallon of 6.0, and you'll get it down SOME, without it being too drastic.
DRASTIC pH CHANGES WITHIN 24 HOURS ARE VERY DANGEROUS.


OR

Try adding a lump of charcoal or two, tied in a panty hose or nylon stocking to the tank.

Go to Walmart or PetSmart to the Aquarium Dept, next to the fish food, filters and additives and sea salts, and get those little packages of Ammonia Control absorbant packets. They look like little sponges in a wrapper. I can not remember what they are called, but they work great to sTAbalize the pH. Or get the Ammonia control pellets and add a few to the tank.

Get everything in your tank like you want it, (except the roots or plants,) and add two heaping tablespoons of baking soda to a gallon of water,Stir it good, then add it to the tank. Wait ten or 15 minutes, then pH adjust it again. Then it should stay stabalized until the next Drain and Replinish.

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Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
A buffer solution is an aqueous solution consisting of a mixture of a weak acid and its conjugate base or a weak base and its conjugate acid. It has the property that the pH of the solution changes very little when a small amount of acid or base is added to it. Buffer solutions are used as a means of keeping pH at a nearly constant value in a wide variety of chemical applications.


You can simply add two heaping table spoons of baking soda to your water, (before yu put it in the tank). Yes, it will wreck the pH, but then you adjust it with pH Down, and then it will stay more stable for a few days.


Primarily what one needs to add to the water are neutralizers and buffers that will stabilize the acid and alkaline levels to the degree that is required for the plants. Most of these stabilizing products are sold in great volume at any pet store that specialized in aquariums and tropical fish and if one is not familiar with what product to purchase, then one should consult with the qualified salespeople so as to arrive at a specific product that will properly address the specific needs of the fish and their owner. You want something that rduces the acid.

instead of buying a buffer, you can simply put a cube of charcoal, or a lump of peat moss tied up in a nylon stocking, and add it to your tank.
 

RichED

Well-Known Member
wow thats some good adv but i forgot to say im growing in soil but you deserve rep for your imput its in the mail

you are a walking talking encyclopedia of MJ growth

I wish you lived next door to me

so many here giving adv dont know what the hell they are talking about but that does not stop them from reply
 

GoldenGanja13

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I was useing 20 gallon buckets (4) in bloom room and I would clean them out every friday and put fresh water/nutes in (set ph). I noticed with the weather change (hot) the ph would move down. So every day before feeding I would have to adjust ph, but not so much in the first bucket that had the lesser amount of nutes in it.
 
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