Whats going on with my plants (pic)

24/7, your humidity will skyrocket w/o it and you'll probally get bud rot/mildew/mold during flowering and the plant needs to *breathe* still regardless of light conditions, airflow is very important for cannabis. i never turn my fans off, ever. lol

first off, if you notice..one plant looks alright while the other one looks more deficient, thats because you should not have two plants become root bound in one pot. they can share a pot as long as the roots dont touch each other. With the miracle grow, one plant will suck up all the nutrients while the other one become deficient. Soil ph should be at 6.3-6.5 for optimum uptake. Keeping the soil at around 6.0 will cause semi lock out of nutes. Can you separate the plants?

wordtothewise said:

first off, if you notice..one plant looks alright while the other one looks more deficient, thats because you should not have two plants become root bound in one pot. they can share a pot as long as the roots dont touch each other. With the miracle grow, one plant will suck up all the nutrients while the other one become deficient. Soil ph should be at 6.3-6.5 for optimum uptake. Keeping the soil at around 6.0 will cause semi lock out of nutes. Can you separate the plants?

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if they are together is it possible to seperate them? if so is there a tut? i suck at just transplanting it feels like i dont have enough hands and i think this soil does't help it falls apart easily even when wet i always run water through it before i transplant i heard that helps to keep from falling apart and when do i start flowering? do the plants give me a sighn or is it when ever i want it to flower?

Actually, its easiest to transplant when the soil is dry. Whoever told you that gave you bad advice. Let the soil dry and then get a trash bag or something to put under you to catch all of the falling dirt. place your hand around the base of the plants and turn the pot upside down using your hand to support the two. Don't get worried about handling the roots. As long as your hands are clean and your working on clean surface, try knocking off as many dirt clots as possible. If the two will not separate I would use scissors and very carefully cut the roots of the less impressive plant. Chances are if you dont solve the problem this way it will die anyways. So you have nothing to loose at this point. Have two pots ready with premium soil. Don't use miracle grow. Get some premium organic soil, earthworm castings, fish emusion, perilte, epson salt, and molasses. Some good ingredients for learning how to safely grow before using chemical nutes. There are plenty of tutorials on this site that teaches you how to mix some good soil. Search subcools super soil. Next, you want to start flowering once the plants are at a reasonable height for your grow room or if they started showing signs of sex. Usually, in a small closet you want to grow your plants a little over a foot then induce 12/12. If you have a taller ceiling I suggest waiting for sex to show. Inducing 12/12 before sex shows can sometimes stress the plant into causing hermaphrodites. When flowering, you'll want more less N and more P and K. I suggest bat guano, and bone meal. Well good luck and if you have any questions let me know. peace.

wat!? now ive never heard of that???

This is just a test run i have some friends that are gonna buy what ever i come up with and i was gonna use that money to get better stuff soil ext. im a very poor person in the part of wv i live in there is nothing i mean nothing i know i keep saying this nobody around here grows indoors eveyone grows outdoors i did last year it was fun put i didnt get to experience the day by day growth like i wanted to i had to hike forever in the mounties morning evening to see where the sun was hitting i found a really go spot next to a runoff where water was runing off the cliff and not even 30 feet was a place that got sun all day long had good cover lots of pine trees (pine trees put off the same heat signature as cannibis so i have heard) im planing on growing outdoors again this year put im also going to have a few inside just to watch them grow and my next indoor grow i will have alot better stuff and i was wondering for flowering if i am sopost to use or if this will work 13w 2700k soft white cfl bulbs im useing 6500k 42watt cfls now if not please let me know what kind of cfl i need for flowering

FuZZyBUDz said:

wat!? now ive never heard of that???

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what haven't you heard of?

wordtothewise said:

what haven't you heard of?

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i dont even remember! hahaha i must been stoney at the time.

so is 2700k soft white 13 watt cfl for flowering?

you need alot more than that, but yes, 2700k is the correct flowering spectrum, i like to use 1 6500k bulb for every 2700k bulb myself, the sun always puts out both spectrums, just higher blue than red in spring and higher red than blue later on. ive never heard of forcing flowering causing hermies, it might take them longer to kick into flower fully because it makes it so the plant has to mature earlier but it wont hermie them.

darkdestruction420 said:

you need alot more than that, but yes, 2700k is the correct flowering spectrum, i like to use 1 6500k bulb for every 2700k bulb myself, the sun always puts out both spectrums, just higher blue than red in spring and higher red than blue later on. ive never heard of forcing flowering causing hermies, it might take them longer to kick into flower fully because it makes it so the plant has to mature earlier but it wont hermie them.

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what happens if you flower early? and how early do you flower?

flowering early is done for grows with limited space for the plants and/or to make it flower sooner for quicker turnaround after vegging the first 2 weeks (or 12/12 from seed, which is extremely dumb imo, the plant still needs to veg and reach maturity b4 it starts to flower, all 12/12 from seed does is make it veg w/ only12 hrs of light instead of 24) and then instead of waiting till it matures fully and shows pre-flowers to switch to 12/12. so it depends on what you wanna do. the plant triples in size by the end of flowering. you probally said this somewhere on here but i dont feel like looking through 30 posts to find it cuz im kinda lazy. lol.-how much space you have? i wait about 4-6 weeks to flower depending on how things go for me during veg. i keep my lights really close so they are usually VERY short and bushy. which is great. 6 inches is probally about the right height height i flower at, but they have so many branches and nodes and big healthy fan leaves on them with about a cm of stem above soil that doesnt have leaves. the rest of the way up the nodes are about 1/2-1/4 of a centimeter between them. each plant has 3-6 42w 2700k and 1-2 6500k bulbs positioned around it for both veg and flowering. color spectrum is not quite as important as some think imo, my plants do great w/mixed spectrum

darkdestruction420 said:

flowering early is done for grows with limited space for the plants and/or to make it flower sooner for quicker turnaround after vegging the first 2 weeks (or 12/12 from seed, which is extremely dumb imo, the plant still needs to veg and reach maturity b4 it starts to flower, all 12/12 from seed does is make it veg w/ only12 hrs of light instead of 24) and then instead of waiting till it matures fully and shows pre-flowers to switch to 12/12. so it depends on what you wanna do. the plant triples in size by the end of flowering. you probally said this somewhere on here but i dont feel like looking through 30 posts to find it cuz im kinda lazy. lol.-how much space you have? i wait about 4-6 weeks to flower depending on how things go for me during veg. i keep my lights really close so they are usually VERY short and bushy. which is great. 6 inches is probally about the right height height i flower at, but they have so many branches and nodes and big healthy fan leaves on them with about a cm of stem above soil that doesnt have leaves. the rest of the way up the nodes are about 1/2-1/4 of a centimeter between them. each plant has 3-6 42w 2700k and 1-2 6500k bulbs positioned around it for both veg and flowering. color spectrum is not quite as important as some think imo, my plants do great w/mixed spectrum

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well put! I also mentioned that flowering early before preflowering can cause some problems. You can always bend or prune to control growth.

what if i run both 6500k and 2700k at the same time from seed? i have limited space if u look at at pics ill take some more pics right now and show u what im working with it wouldnt let me add any pictures but i have picture in the picture album take a look and tell me what u think