What's doing this?

I can't see and bugs on the leafs but I'm sure it's a bug problem any ideas?

a scope or a loupe would be helpfull in identifying if its bugs or not

I have both. I found a few different kinds bud they are outdoor plants. Don't see any spider mites or thrips. I know they tend to leave black spots like this.

how many leafs are affected?

the black spots look like bug shit take a damp cloth and see if you can wipe them off.the white spots look like mite damage. time to spray.

thrips do damage similar to that and leave black spots the spots are poop

Yea for sure it's bug shit I just can't see any of the usual bugs that would be there. I sprayed them today with some stuff I hope it helps.

mites dont have visible poop like that but thrips do.

I will look a little closer. Thanks for the replies.

thrips will move around if yu bump the plant and could fall off so just watch the plant without shaking or bumping it.

definitely bug poop i would get a magnifying glass and try checking under the leaves

edit: seen that was posted by someone else