For me, just a single top at node 5 and then just flattening her evenly out, 4 plants in final 5 gallon pots vegged for 8 weeks / 56 days, or 6 plants in final 3.5 gallon pots vegged for 6 weeks / 42 days, usually gets the same result, 30 - 34 zips, and 3 to 3 3/4 zips of nice trim. running under 2 x 320(s) @ 240w each, with 2 x 4' AM / pure UV @ 3 minute intervals/ph during flowering lights on!
What yield do you pull from a 4x4 ?????
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Bluecollarbudz90
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Typically yeh im running perpetual have 4 groups of 6 to 8 going at all times. I veg for 8 to 12 weeks if you count rooting/germination time. And yeh no more then twice but lots of training i start young makes the process less enduring and the stems more pliable in the long run. My veg room is a wide open room though not controlled just fans and midwest basement im sure they would be monumental specticals if i vegged the way I did in a controlled environment at that length of veg time but oh well it keeps my the space i have availabe utilized amy bigger i would have diminishing yield from crowding issues.
Hobbes
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Last grow I had 865 grams (30 oz) in a 4 x 4 under a 1000 watt Black dog.
I had poor producing Blue Dream that brought the total down, my favourite strain from the grow, I think I can pull 1000 grams with 4 good producers. Maybe 1100 grams once dialled in.
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Last grow I had 865 grams (30 oz) in a 4 x 4 under a 1000 watt Black dog.
I had poor producing Blue Dream that brought the total down, my favourite strain from the grow, I think I can pull 1000 grams with 4 good producers. Maybe 1100 grams once dialled in.
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5.2 per year is what I average out to.
Back on Overgrow (the original, not that fake one that some asswad started to make a buck off of something he had shit all to do with) there was a great little excel page that had all the variables, floor space, time, wattage, hours, grams etc to get a real efficiency number. But at the end of the day that's all about comparing dicks and all that really matters is your own comparison to past grows so a simple GPW is enough.
Back on Overgrow (the original, not that fake one that some asswad started to make a buck off of something he had shit all to do with) there was a great little excel page that had all the variables, floor space, time, wattage, hours, grams etc to get a real efficiency number. But at the end of the day that's all about comparing dicks and all that really matters is your own comparison to past grows so a simple GPW is enough.
H G Griffin
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Perpetual for sure makes a difference and not just for number of harvests. I run perpetual in my 3x3, and if things are properly timed I can more efficiently use the space. As a mature plant is harvested a much smaller plant takes its place, leaving more room for the others that are finishing.
Even though there are always 4 plants, they don't each get 25% of the space all the time. A newly flipped plant doesn't need that room, but the finisher will use it. I may not have room for 4 plants at a time, each with 4-6 dry OZs of bud, but I can perpetually harvest that with proper timing.
I hope I was able to explain this in a way that makes sense.
Maybe a photo will help. I couldn't fit four of the plant on the left in there(it's got about 3 weeks to go here), but I can pull one that size from that tent every 3 weeks or so with proper planning.
budman111
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Nice buddy, whatever works for the individual grower, so many variables in growing that no two set ups are the samePerpetual for sure makes a difference and not just for number of harvests. I run perpetual in my 3x3, and if things are properly timed I can more efficiently use the space. As a mature plant is harvested a much smaller plant takes its place, leaving more room for the others that are finishing.
Even though there are always 4 plants, they don't each get 25% of the space all the time. A newly flipped plant doesn't need that room, but the finisher will use it. I may not have room for 4 plants at a time, each with 4-6 dry OZs of bud, but I can perpetually harvest that with proper timing.
I hope I was able to explain this in a way that makes sense.
Maybe a photo will help. I couldn't fit four of the plant on the left in there(it's got about 3 weeks to go here), but I can pull one that size from that tent every 3 weeks or so with proper planning.
MidnightSun72
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What exactly is a safe PGR???
MidnightSun72
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Can you explain this a little more? Why do you think it's a waste of light? Every time I start a flower cycle I think about how much light is just hitting the potting soil. But after 2-3 weeks the girls fill in all the gaps in the space.
I think his perpetual method is clever because that empty pot space can be taken up by fan leaves of more mature finishing plants.
Offmymeds
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I just bought the 6 bucket system from the Bucket Company & planned on using all 6 for a scrog. Are you scrogging?
Wastei
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PGR = Plant growth regulator, there's natural ones and synthetic copies or alterations of existing natural auxins and cytokinins. Some are not the typical PGR per definition and are more considered phytohormones like Triacontanol and Brassinolides.
Safe PGR's are known to be safe and non carcinogenic, used correctly at right timings and widely used for decades commercially.
MidnightSun72
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cool info man thanks for this. I looked up one they seem to use it in rose production.
Well I'm talking about the inverse law and that every light has a sweet spot. So it's pretty hard to set a light for the height of flowering plants and young plants at the same time. I guess you could use risers or put them on something and adjust, but keeping a nice even canopy throughout the grow has always been one of my keys to good yields.
GrassBurner
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Ive got (2) 2x4 light frames in my 4x4. Gives me a little bit of adjustment 
smtent
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how much is a zip?
I think I'd be happiest with the highest quality regardless of weight.
In perpetual you never really know.
kovidkough
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a stadium style design with small plants is the most efficient use of smaller spaces like 3x3 , 4x4 but plant counts get larger and this impedes alot of growers
Depends on your light. LEDs that’s not the best way to go imho