what to do!?

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jordanian

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so, i have 6 young but firmly rooted clones that thru unforeseen circumstances have started to flower. prob about 10 days into it. they are only around 3-5inches tall.

now i really want to veg these a lot longer. and there is two i would rather make into mother plants. the clones are all showing a lot of pistils(sp).
they have been on 12/12 for around a week under a 600W HPS. i have the same light but with duel spectrum. should i just stick them under 24 and work my way down to 18/6?
will this mishap adversely effect my plants? if so instead of fucking up all together trying to get mother plants should i just flower them now and start again?

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO! arrrrgghh!:oops:
 
THE GAME

THE GAME

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jordanian said:
so, i have 6 young but firmly rooted clones that thru unforeseen circumstances have started to flower. prob about 10 days into it. they are only around 3-5inches tall.

now i really want to veg these a lot longer. and there is two i would rather make into mother plants. the clones are all showing a lot of pistils(sp).
they have been on 12/12 for around a week under a 600W HPS. i have the same light but with duel spectrum. should i just stick them under 24 and work my way down to 18/6?
will this mishap adversely effect my plants? if so instead of fucking up all together trying to get mother plants should i just flower them now and start again?

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO! arrrrgghh!:oops:
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flip them back in to veg at either 24/0 or 18/6 until you are ready to go 12/12.this will be painless to the plants and let you get on with vegging them until you are ready for 12/12
 
THE GAME

THE GAME

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jordanian said:
conflicting opinions. . . i knew this would happen.
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It depends on how big the plants are at the moment and the number of budsites you have(nodes).pics would help but at 3-5" tall i would go back to vegging them longer but thats just my opinion.flowering a
3-5" plant will yeild hardly anything to smoke.
 
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McFonz

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Just put it back on a veg light regime. anything from 16\8 to 24\0. I've used them all and they all work.
If it started flowering heavily it will take some time to re-veg. If its just a week it should take around 5-7 days to fully revert back to veg.

If buds already started to form it will take a bit longer and it will shoot a LOT of branches from where the bud was.


All of that is from first hand experience. I got a few going right now too.


If its a stretching plant you could be fine with just topping it and cloning the topped part. But I wouldn't waste a 600W on that.
 
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GimpDoctor420

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i think it would be fine to switch straight to 18-6, unless its a strain that cant take a lot of stress, it should just maybe stunt for a few days but seriously nothing major.

why did you flower them if you wanted them to be mothers or to veg them?
 
kudaross

kudaross

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THE GAME said:
flip them back in to veg at either 24/0 or 18/6 until you are ready to go 12/12.this will be painless to the plants and let you get on with vegging them until you are ready for 12/12
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Painless really isn't true. It's going to cause some stress to the plants, as you are switching their cycles. Think about it, a plant that's in the flowering cycle is supposed to be producing buds. When you change that into thinking it's spring all over again (24 hours of light) the hormones have to revert back into leaf and stem production. This will cause some stress, but it won't have any major consequences.

Start using 24/0 tonight, the benefits are much better than flowering now.

Goodluck with your grow!
 
DSB65

DSB65

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This is a debated subject..but the earlier in flower the easier to reveg ..and cut off any bud sites..ive never done this just what ive read in these forums....
 
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mrmadcow

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I would flip them back to veg also but if you are using a HPS,don't go to 24 hrs, most manufacturers recommend a few hrs a day off time. running 24/7 will shorten the life of the ballast and bulb.
 
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jordanian

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mrmadcow said:
I would flip them back to veg also but if you are using a HPS,don't go to 24 hrs, most manufacturers recommend a few hrs a day off time. running 24/7 will shorten the life of the ballast and bulb.
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wow thanks! i never thought of that. i did notice my reflector was boiling the other day but took little interest! :S

i did switch straight to 24hr light, but have just ran thru and put it to 20/4 :D

i had 4 plants from seed that had veged for 3 month. just before i flowered them i acquired 6 new clones for free so just chucked em all in the room to flower. after a week/10 days all my plants from seed were male, so figured my best bet was to try veg all my female clones and get max from em! the clones had already grown their pre buds and hairs (pistls?) so hopefully that explains why i had to revert and maybe makes me look a little less stupid. . hopefully :D

anyway. i have about 10 weeks from now to get bud from these. well, i need to be able to switch everything off for 5 days by then.

how long should i give my plants to fully flower? is leaving 8 weeks too short? it will be the first time iv ever grown to bud so don't really know till iv done it at least once eh?

im really stoned so may be rambling a bit!

thanks for all the unexpected interest! :D
 
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GimpDoctor420

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jordanian said:
wow thanks! i never thought of that. i did notice my reflector was boiling the other day but took little interest! :S

i did switch straight to 24hr light, but have just ran thru and put it to 20/4 :D

i had 4 plants from seed that had veged for 3 month. just before i flowered them i acquired 6 new clones for free so just chucked em all in the room to flower. after a week/10 days all my plants from seed were male, so figured my best bet was to try veg all my female clones and get max from em! the clones had already grown their pre buds and hairs (pistls?) so hopefully that explains why i had to revert and maybe makes me look a little less stupid. . hopefully :D

anyway. i have about 10 weeks from now to get bud from these. well, i need to be able to switch everything off for 5 days by then.

how long should i give my plants to fully flower? is leaving 8 weeks too short? it will be the first time iv ever grown to bud so don't really know till iv done it at least once eh?

im really stoned so may be rambling a bit!

thanks for all the unexpected interest! :D
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flowering time depends on strain, if it is indica its flowering time will be less(8-9 weeks) but if its sativa it could be up to 12-13 weeks. on average though it'll be around 9 weeks maybe a bit more for hybrids.

after around eight weeks start to look for signs of harvest. plenty of threads on here for it.
your basically looking to see when the buds look "done"
leaves start to yellow (using up their nitrogen), the calyxs swell, the pistils go red/brown and shrivel, the trichomes go amber.
you can pick day of harvest by the trichs by getting a 30-50x microscope(most diy stores have them i think) when around 50% of the trichomes are amber. take into account that harvesting before this time will give a less potent, but heady high.and harvesting after will give a less potent, but more bodily stoned.
some people also harvest by the amount of pistils gone red/brown and shriveled. (around 50% again but debatable[according to high desirable])
some people can just tell by the look of the buds.(skill required) :D

you think your rambling? :D
 
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jordanian

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i know, i don't know why i ask these questions. the info is all there and even then the rule will still be its done when it done.
iv not got my notebook next to me, my clones are different from the seeds i had, they have the longer/thinner fan leafs, what strain is that again?

i am such a tool, no matter how much i read i still want/need someone to point it out exactly for me. it puts my mind at ease :)

i don't think im gonna go as far as comparing trichs and pistils this time round. just something that resembles good clean weed is all i want for this grow. would be a nice break from the shite on offer round these parts. think im gonna keep one clone in a wee CFL veg box for clones after this.
 
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GimpDoctor420

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the fan leaves that have lots of thin fingers are more sativa-y. the ones with less, fatter fingers are more indaca dominant. as to what specific strain is almost unobtainable. theres, theres just toooo many :D
ah no its fine, nobodies gonna care about anyone wanting to be 100% sure on the right thing for their ladies:D
yeah i personally dont buy the whole pistil thing because sometimes they start to go red/brown like three weeks into flowering from my experience and its a bit unclear.
but whatever floats your boat and gets you the weed you yourself want is perfect. harvesting is a matter thats 100% opinionated and subjective. theres no "right" time to harvest as such.

yeah theres some really leafy bags goin round my area at the moment. :(
 
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jordanian

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cheers, nah i didn't mean exactly what strain just satv/inda. aw its not leafy bags that i are the problem just too many big growers all spraying and stuff to make the most cash. not cool.

i was thinking, the techneique where you cut all the side shoots to create one big main bud, would this reduce budding time and help get a bigger yield from my short plants with only 600wHPS? the following of this process would then give me plenty of new cuttings for clones, i could then move into a SOG op. damn, i think its finally coming together in my head. . . must be this soft black, miller and dubstep combo.

so my question first of all is what is that technique called, then my questions are would it reduce budding times on short plants and does it affect yield positively of negatively on small plants?
 
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