What line of Organic Nutrients do you use?

titycaca

Active Member
I'm just curious to hear about what line of Organic nutrients you use and why. I'm currently looking into Organic nutrients and would love to see what you guys have to say about the products you are using "good or bad". I'm trying to get my research in before i start throwing cash around. If you don't use a nutrient line and make your own soil mix or teas, please feel free to post what you're working with.

P.S. Bud porn is always a bonus
 

whitey78

Well-Known Member
Canna bio is looking like the shit to get these days as far as bottled stuff, but you need more than just the 3 base products to get through flowering. At least thats what I read every time I someone asks about it. I'm pretty sure its about yield rather than quality as far as needing the soluble seaweed and humbolt bloom on top of the canna bio base, enzymes. They call it veganics, aka feeding your plants with only plant based fertilizer. They sneak some guano in there with the humbolt but they may have found an alternative by now.

Check out veganics with matt rize or kyle kushman, rize is on this site and does it a little differently or something. Its an expensive way to feed your plants but those who do say its like nothing else, but then again thats what has/is said about organic vs. synth. (I'd say that one is true for the most part). How much better is it???....I dont know, never tried it but I plan to at some point.

As far as what organic line to use, buy what you have access to, if you have access to the canna bio line check out the other stuff they use for veganics as I said if you do plan on trying the canna as I think you'll be unhappy with yield if you dont. But dont get sticker shock, its probably the most expenisve nute line up ever, aside from AN of course.
 

titycaca

Active Member
Canna bio is looking like the shit to get these days as far as bottled stuff, but you need more than just the 3 base products to get through flowering. At least thats what I read every time I someone asks about it. I'm pretty sure its about yield rather than quality as far as needing the soluble seaweed and humbolt bloom on top of the canna bio base, enzymes. They call it veganics, aka feeding your plants with only plant based fertilizer. They sneak some guano in there with the humbolt but they may have found an alternative by now.

Check out veganics with matt rize or kyle kushman, rize is on this site and does it a little differently or something. Its an expensive way to feed your plants but those who do say its like nothing else, but then again thats what has/is said about organic vs. synth. (I'd say that one is true for the most part). How much better is it???....I dont know, never tried it but I plan to at some point.

As far as what organic line to use, buy what you have access to, if you have access to the canna bio line check out the other stuff they use for veganics as I said if you do plan on trying the canna as I think you'll be unhappy with yield if you dont. But dont get sticker shock, its probably the most expenisve nute line up ever, aside from AN of course.
That veganics website is sweet. Thank you very much those biocanna nutes sound pretty sexy. I'll see if i can find them somewhere near by so i can look into purchasing. Cheers +Rep
 

Kalebaiden

Well-Known Member
I use General Organics, I like that it's easy to work with and there's no need for pH balancing in a soil set up.
 

Izoc666

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I absolutely love organic by my own mix....i like the dry powder stuff like Miracle Gro s organic blood, bone meals and espoma lime, and some of espoma lines plus alaksa s 5-1-1-, it will cost you under twenty dollars and can grow ten plants for 5 crops easily...i wanna try the budswel (bloom) soon.

666
 
First off, no matter what you hear from newbies like myself or veterans of 20+ years. DO NOT use Miracle Gro regular or organic. If not because of the dangerous synthetics in regular or the oil based N fert in organic, DO NOT use it because the corporation, Monsanto, who owns Scotts and the Miracle Gro lines, is one the biggest polluters on our earth.
My very first grow was with MG non-organic and MG ferts. Seedling struggled, but it vegged great, early flower was good but I struggled late flower. I have a great dry and cure process, minimum 45 days, and the MG MJ tasted like chems. A buddy of mine makes his own tea and gets really down and dirty, and his buds tasted like heaven compared to mine using the same dry/cure process.

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I use Sunshine Pro potting soil. It has a tiny amount of nutes to start seedlings, but after a few weeks it's yours to fert. I mix that with chunky or large coarse perlite, vermiculite, worm castings, and dolomite lime.
I mix it 40% soil, 30% perlite, 15% vermiculite, 15% worm castings. A cup of lime per each 5 gal pot.
For seedlings I just use half soil half perlite in 16oz solo sups.

I use the entire EarthJuice lineup. Being I only keep my seedlings in the solo cups from sprouted seed to 4-5" seedlings, about 10 days(I germinate using paper towel between plates with heat pad), I do not feed with EJ until second watering after transplant into the 5 gallons.

EarthJuice is 100% organic, and can be used for both hydro and soil, but nothing is better for MJ than soil.

There is Grow, Bloom, Catalyst, MicroBlast, MetaK and Hi-Brix Molasses. Basically just Grow with tiny amounts of Bloom is used for veg, then just the opposite with flower by using Bloom with tiny amounts of Grow. In between micro, catalyst and meta is used throughout the grow, plenty of info on EJ schedules can be found on here. The Hi-Brix is basically a much better version of black strap molasses which is used in flower to get BIG BUDS.(It's more complicated than that but that's the end result)

For the transplant from solo cup to 5 gal I allow the solo to dry out almost completely, cut the cup pull out and transplant into the 5 gal, which has already been watered a few days earlier with PHed water. With solo cup size hole already pre-dug the clump goes in and dirt goes around it. I water right away with only PHed water and 1/4 strength ThriveAliveGreen. The next watering is the first time I use EJ, a basic 1/4 strength Grow with 1/4 strength Microblast. Even though with 5 gallons of soil mix it could probably sustain the plant for another week or more, I introduce EJ no more than 5 days after transplant. So basically water only pre-transplant, water and Thrive only right after, and EJ mix within 5 days.

I bubble my water in a 5 gallon bucket with a air stone and air pump for 24-36 hours. Then I add EJ mix and bubble a minimum 12 maximum 24 hours. I only add PH up or down no less than two hours before feed.(EJ PH UP and DOWN all organic, I forgot to mention these two extra products) When I get the 6.3 I shoot for I usually wait those two hours to see if PH changes, but it almost never does.

I know Advanced has good products but they're so commercialized it's sickening. A full line of EJ, that is one gallon of each product mentioned(except the PH Up and Down which is a smaller bottle about 10 dollars a piece), is around 120 if bought locally which is impossible for most of us, and around 200 if ordered online and shipped depending on how far you are from distributor. So look for a website who's prices are good and who's warehouse is close.

Only con, the shit kinda stinks, but I've learned to love it. I did not keep it too simple my first organic grow, but simple enough because it turned out amazing. I will use nothing else until I have to.

Good Luck :peace:
 

bigv1976

Well-Known Member
I use Alaska brand nutrients in soil. They are as high quality as all the big name nutrients except they dont cost 4 times as much. You got to ask yourself are you buying nutes or names?
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
Canna bio is looking like the shit to get these days as far as bottled stuff, but you need more than just the 3 base products to get through flowering. At least thats what I read every time I someone asks about it. I'm pretty sure its about yield rather than quality as far as needing the soluble seaweed and humbolt bloom on top of the canna bio base, enzymes. They call it veganics, aka feeding your plants with only plant based fertilizer. They sneak some guano in there with the humbolt but they may have found an alternative by now.

Check out veganics with matt rize or kyle kushman, rize is on this site and does it a little differently or something. Its an expensive way to feed your plants but those who do say its like nothing else, but then again thats what has/is said about organic vs. synth. (I'd say that one is true for the most part). How much better is it???....I dont know, never tried it but I plan to at some point.

As far as what organic line to use, buy what you have access to, if you have access to the canna bio line check out the other stuff they use for veganics as I said if you do plan on trying the canna as I think you'll be unhappy with yield if you dont. But dont get sticker shock, its probably the most expenisve nute line up ever, aside from AN of course.
Here's that thread: https://www.rollitup.org/organics/364864-vegan-organics-aka-veganics-matt.html
 

titycaca

Active Member
Good Luck :peace:
I really aprreciate the information and guide line. I was planning on going Biocanna, but i just don't have the money to invest in it. I decided to go with EJ lineup and the information you gave i very helpful thank you. I was looking for when to introduce a nutrient and how much and you pretty much summed it up for me. Seriously wish i could + rep^9999. Thank you so much
 

titycaca

Active Member
I use Alaska brand nutrients in soil. They are as high quality as all the big name nutrients except they dont cost 4 times as much. You got to ask yourself are you buying nutes or names?
I see what your saying and i'll look into that lineup. That is pretty much why i started this thread, so i could get real people telling about the products they used and got a true opinion. Instead of throwing mad cash at AN which i was planning on doing :) because i was just really excited looking at there lineup, but than i was educated by the good people of rollitup.
 
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