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Terry385

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you want to know why whats wrong you need to add some info what soil water nutrients and so on
 

az2000

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I don't see calcium def. It doesn't look specked and rusty enough. The spots look irregular and blotchy purple or dark. I'd say phosphorous def.

I agree with Terry. Need more info about the stage of growth. If you don't feed with a lot of runoff, and if you're into flower, it could be salt buildup. If you don't let the soil dry enough that can prevent the plant from experiencing a full range of ph (holding it low).
 

Rasta Roy

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I'm not using traditional bottled nutes, only bottles are Fish hydroslate, liquid Kelp, fulvex, molasses, and humic acid. And I just use those as ingredients for aerated teas.

I am using a soil mix base of compost, perlite, vermiculite, and worm castings. Amended with fish bone meal, lime, kelp, and azomite.

It's about three weeks into flower.

PH runoff is right at 7.0
 

az2000

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It's about three weeks into flower.
Are they only the lower leaves? It could be lack of light and the normal shedding unproductive leaves older/lower leaves. That's normal.

At that stage it could also be P def. Considering the nutrients you're using, it might be better to ask in the organic section. But, if it were me I would add 2 grams/gal bone meal. This would increase 1 : 1.3 : 1.6 NPK (ratio) to 1 : 2 : 1.6. (I have never done this. Not sure how available/fast-acting that would be. But, it seems it would be relatively safe.).
 

Rasta Roy

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Guano is faster acting than bone meal I'll throw some high phosphorus guano on it and see if it improves. It's on the upper middle section of the plant.
 

Rasta Roy

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Yeah I think I over did it on lime. Do you think I should use a soil acidifier? Or just lower the pH of my water until the soil pH comes down?
 

az2000

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Yeah I think I over did it on lime. Do you think I should use a soil acidifier? Or just lower the pH of my water until the soil pH comes down?
I've never had that problem. If you only feed water (relying on the nutrients amended into the soil), it won't pull the PH much because it's low in ppms. If the water contains nutrients, the nutrients should acidify the water and the added ppms will help pull the soil ph. (But, one concern is: if the lime is carbonates, they'll break down with acid and release Ca and Mg. You may need to water/feed with enough runoff to flush what may be excessive ca/mg).

Aluminum sulfate will lower ph. I've amended it into soil. About 6g (per gal of soil) of Fertilome's Hy-Yield product lowered my ph 1 point. I don't know how that would work if you topdressed it and watered it in. (Some people have a problem with aluminum being toxic. If you're doing organic for a reason, that may be a concern.).

If you use ph-down to lower the ph of your water, that's going to add potassium. If it's pure water it won't take much ph-down (which is an example of how the water won't have much "gravity" to affect the soil).
 

Rasta Roy

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Say I make a compost tea with compost, molasses, and kelp meal. It's pH is measuring at 5.5 if I dump that onto my soil that has a pH of 7, do you think that will lower the overall pH of my soil?
 
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