What is the process to donate your medicine to a dispensary?

Serapis said:

And herein lies the true justification for caring for the sick, "when and how much do I get paid?"

I laughed my ass off earlier when I ran across the word 'donate', as I knew the poster really meant 'sell for profit'. And please don't tell me it costs you $200 per ounce to grow either.... While I am all for selling for profit, call it what it is, don't hide behind a red cross and claim you are 'donating excess' when all you are doing is selling marijuana and filling out a 1099. There is nothing going on even remotely looking like a donation.

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I too wonder where this "donation" term came into vogue. We have a "Collective Association" (real legal term) set up by an attorney. The money we recieve for the meds is "reimbursment" for costs incurred. The law requires that there is no "profit". Funny word, that "profit". The law does not prohibit you from being paid for your time spent growing. Nor does the law cap what your hourly rate can be. This isn't me talking out of my ass...this is straight from our attorney who is a cannabis business lawyer. Now, the kicker on the hourly rate is you have to picture yourself in front of 12 people justifying your hourly wage. Our attorney recommends no more than $50/hr. But, we all know how time consuming this can be, right?

In the end, the numbers just need to balance. Very few dispenaries are operating 100% legal. Perfect example: If you can only charge what your costs are, how can you charge say $50 for an eighth and $150 for a Z? Now the dispensary will tell you that selling 4 eighths costs more that selling one ounce....and I'm sure it does with the extra bagging, extra sales time, etc...But is it and extra $50? Probably not. Of course, the burden of proof being on the other side helps out.

You can make money legally growing. But, your paperwork needs to show a zero balance after costs. We keep perfect records. Anyone who doesn't may wish they did should the bad people show up one day. If you have good record keeping, even if you get arrested, it will end up a DA reject. In my town, the cops like to raid a grow, sieze the lights (they don't waste time with the other stuff) and tell you they have dropped the charges, but if you want your gear back they will file charges. Isn't that fun?

I know some "legal" med growers who grow around 20lbs/month. The sell about 7 per month to dispensaries. According to their records, they only grow 7 pounds, so the numbers look pretty good. The other 13 lbs get sold on the black market. It actually goes out of state. They have had "the man" visit the op and they got everything back. Their theory is that "the man" would have a hard time proving that they are growing more than 7lbs/month. They're right. After all, are they growing a 7 week plant, or a 14 week plant? You think the cops are cultivation experts? Not only are they not, here, they won't even render an opinion on yield and street value. Here's why:

4 years ago a cop stated on the stand that the value of 4 plants siezed from a grow was $6,400. Fast forward 3 years. A husband and wife med grow op had their 12 plants illegally siezed and destroyed by the police. The court ruled that the police needed to pay the couple for the plants illegally destryed. The couple's lawyer pulled up the sworn testimony from a police officer "expert" from 3 years prior. That testimony valued plants at $6,400 each. The couple was paid by the police department $76,800. So, you can see why the police are a little hesitant to start rendering "opinions" regarding cultivation and street value when we now have a legal component involved.

Bottom line. If you really want to be legal. Get a lwayer to set you up a collective of your own. Keep good records. Our attorney's fees were $3,000 to set everything up, and we pay him about $300/month for consulatations to keep everythinglegal as our collective evolves. It's cheap security.

https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/407048-20-000-watt-medical-grow.html

Watusippin? said:

How do they test on the spot? What kind of equipment is used and where does one get it?

I was going to use Steep Hill in Oakland or just demand that any vendors that want to sell to us have to have their medication tested before hand.

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How I understand it, you cannot have an accurate "on the spot" test. Molds are extracted from plant material into sterile water. The water extract is then spread on several Petri dishes with different media. The media is then incubated and analyzed under microscope by trained microbiologists. This takes time.

For pesticide testing generally the chemists will use enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay method. If anything is detected, then they use a High-performance liquid chromatography (HPLC) to further analyze the suspect sample.

The more familiar Gas Chromotagrapher-mass spectrometry method is used for potency analysis.

I believe this has to do with requirements to meet ISO 17025 standard. (ISO 17025 - applies directly to those organizations that produce testing and calibration results)

RPsmoke420 said:

How I understand it, you cannot have an accurate "on the spot" test. Molds are extracted from plant material into sterile water. The water extract is then spread on several Petri dishes with different media. The media is then incubated and analyzed under microscope by trained microbiologists. This takes time.

For pesticide testing generally the chemists will use enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay method. If anything is detected, then they use a High-performance liquid chromatography (HPLC) to further analyze the suspect sample.

The more familiar Gas Chromotagrapher-mass spectrometry method is used for potency analysis.

I believe this has to do with requirements to meet ISO 17025 standard. (ISO 17025 - applies directly to those organizations that produce testing and calibration results)

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agreed... like the way you define...

i want to share this sorta info...

All dispensaries should have a fraction of their medication tested with a certification about its safety and potency for all patients to choose what they want to put in their bodies.
It is in the light of safety that we see a need in this developing field of apothecary pharmacies for quality control to protect the end user from harmful chemicals all too liberally applied to ward off bugs and disease. Fertilizers, pesticides and blooming agents are popular to increase yield size, but safety procedures such as flushing the plants for 2 weeks before harvest are not always used by the casual and large scale pot growers. These are the same chemicals used in commercial farming a lot of the time and can pass on harmful toxins in the processed plant products to the end user.Other considerations are given toward the possibility of there being fungus, mold or other microorganisms growing on the smoke-able plant that could be inhaled and possibly cause lung infections.
As a medicinal herb that is cultivated by licensed growers, it should be made available for patients to have access to medicine that they know was grown organically and has a tested THC score for controlled self medicating. The reason that this plant has healing effects is due to the molecules the plant produces. Called cannabinoids, there are more than 60 in the plant but only a few that cause the effects marijuana is known for; these include: delta9-Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC, highly euphoric and psychoactive), cannabidol (CBD, psychoactive), trahydrocannabiverol (THCV, euphoric and psychoactive), cannabichromene (non-euphoric). THC and CBD are the most common cannabinoid profiles used. “The breakdown is this: one gram is equivalent to 1,000mg. Therefore, if a cannabis strain has 20% THC and 1% CBD one gram consumed is the equivalent of 200mg of THC and 10mg of CBD”. “The resin of intoxicant types of plant is dominated by THC, whereas non-intoxicant types have resin dominated by CBD, and while THC is not narcotic in the sense of producing sleep, CBD has been shown to have sleep-inducing properties (Carlini and Cunah 1981)”. These studies show that it is important to know what ratio these chemicals are taken in. A person who needs medicine during the day would want a low CBD count, while someone treating their insomnia with marijuana would want a strain high in CBD. As well, it is important for patients to know how much THC is in their medicine due to its psychoactive effects.

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simply ask them if they accept venders....

Serapis said:

And herein lies the true justification for caring for the sick, "when and how much do I get paid?"

I laughed my ass off earlier when I ran across the word 'donate', as I knew the poster really meant 'sell for profit'. And please don't tell me it costs you $200 per ounce to grow either.... While I am all for selling for profit, call it what it is, don't hide behind a red cross and claim you are 'donating excess' when all you are doing is selling marijuana and filling out a 1099. There is nothing going on even remotely looking like a donation.

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it should be for profit anyway or ethier that go and make the oil companies and the pharmacudical companies not for profit also. god damn asprin and excedrin are makin millions not to mention all those other drug manufacturing companies makin billions