In order to treat that question with any sort of meaning, we need to define our terms. If we do not, then we're only tossing questionably evocative vaguenesses about, and that is a bankrupt method. Landmark, what do you mean by division in this context? cnThought in its right place, certainly. Mathematics.There is no problem there. Now what happens when that is applied to human beings, psychologically? What occurs?
Yeh, what he said.....this could be an original thread!!..much better than usual the religion/atheism endless ego wanking...In order to treat that question with any sort of meaning, we need to define our terms. If we do not, then we're only tossing questionably evocative vaguenesses about, and that is a bankrupt method. Landmark, what do you mean by division in this context? cn
May we begin here, is there 'one who thinks or there is thought?In order to treat that question with any sort of meaning, we need to define our terms. If we do not, then we're only tossing questionably evocative vaguenesses about, and that is a bankrupt method. Landmark, what do you mean by division in this context? cn
I would like to answer that, but I cannot penetrate the sentence. Since I have no clue what you're asking, might I ask you to rephrase, elaborate?May we begin here, is there 'one who thinks or there is thought?
Sir, a rephrase... does it occur for you as 'i think', which is a thinker, or does it occur for you as 'there is thought, there is no thinker'?I would like to answer that, but I cannot penetrate the sentence. Since I have no clue what you're asking, might I ask you to rephrase, elaborate?
Take the last three words, " ... there is thought?"
It depends on if the final word is a noun or a participle.
If noun, it seems you are asking "does thought exist?" with the implication that it might exist independent of an identifiable thinker.
If participle, and allowing for unconventional syntax, the connotation becomes "do our identities have meaning because someone/something at a higher order of existence is imagining us?"
The two possibilities are so different that there is no way to hazard an answer that could cover both deduced clarifications.
Please, Landmark ... define, specify, show the boundaries. Channel your inner engineer or contract lawyer. cn
Sir the question is not, "whether or not identity is a real thing" that was not what was askedIf you're asking me whether or not identity is a real thing, I am tempted to answer glibly, but I cannot do so, not honestly. The hurdle for me is that the nature of identity is not philosophically certain. At a more mundane level -
while the truth of "I" as a basic component of reality is, imo, not an easy question, in daily mundane fact it's more than useful; it's elementary. One of the first things a human newborn learns over its first six months or so, is boundedness of self. I v. not-I. So while division, compartmentation, identification are imo basic features of the human mind, I can't really say much about the nature of division.
I do not know if that is to your point andor satisfactory. cn
"Sir." ~giggle~Sir the question is not, "whether or not identity is a real thing" that was not what was asked
Sir or Maam, as it is not personal, there was a meaning made of the question, there is nothing wrong with that, however the question was not met fully, so to speak."Sir." ~giggle~
How is my perception of the question different from yours? cn
No, i have not asked that in this thread.you are asking, is anything real.
is there a thinker at all, or is there just thought.
does it all exist in the mind or is there even a thinker to begin with?
why do you ask about division?
So it occurs for you as "I think", if that is so then one could stop thinking, which would be a controller, and more of thought in operation, you see there is no way out of this, you are caught in a trap and you will do everything to escape, much like a chinese thumb lock, the more you try to escape the tighter the confines become. Welcome to your life. And you will hate that this is being pointed out, here comes thought infuriated...I think the thinker here has no idea what the OP is thinking about.
Great responses to the ops questions, yet they are not valid,
Does anyone smell troll?
So it occurs for you as "I think", if that is so then one could stop thinking, which would be a controller, and more of thought in operation, you see there is no way out of this, you are caught in a trap and you will do everything to escape, much like a chinese thumb lock, the more you try to escape the tighter the confines become. Welcome to your life. And you will hate that this is being pointed out, here comes thought infuriated...