What is the best mix?

AdiiTaff

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hey im lookin to find a good soil mix so i dont have to add any nutes during the plants life. im aware that il have to transplant a few times but that doesn't bother me, im just not good with feeding times. if anyone can help it will be much appreciated :D peace.
 

AdiiTaff

Member
could i use Bio Bizz Pre Mix without adding any nutes? im from uk so cant get any fox farm or anything like that.
 

goodro wilson

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I've done Subcools super soil and after experimenting got the same results with this mix
Ff Ocean forest in bottom third(in 7 gallon)
Mixed with haPpy frog fruit and flower
Then 2parts happy frog soil 1 part ocean forest one part perlite

Ran side by side next to Subcools ss by the book same strain same everything and got slightly better results with my mix
Did a lot of reading and tried ss msm a perlite/spa gum mix and a few others
I like this one Bc it's straight outta the bag
Very little mixing and no cook time cost me less to make too
 

goodro wilson

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***^^But I do throw worm castings on top after about a month in veg and throw more happy frog fruit and flower dry fert on top about a month into flower
 

AdiiTaff

Member
i cant get any happy frog or fox farms. well i can but it will cost me alot to get it shipped. i was lookin at the bio biz pre mix. do you think that would be ok for the plants life?
 

Total Head

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hey im lookin to find a good soil mix so i dont have to add any nutes during the plants life. im aware that il have to transplant a few times but that doesn't bother me, im just not good with feeding times. if anyone can help it will be much appreciated :D peace.
last year i got the same idea because i got sick of the whole grind of mixing nutes and keeping track of feeding and salt buildup and all the bullshit. super soil has too many ingredients and i don't have room for all that crap. i started with the products from the grow store and little by little i replaced things with items i could get at any old nursery or big box store, i added this, then that, and i now have a real nice mix going.

there are a variety of products that do similar things, so just because you can't get brand xyz doesn't mean you are cheating yourself. i'll lay out my basic mix to give you an idea.

high quality organic potting soil (i use gardner's gold, but there are several reputable brands at any nursery)
worm castings (this i get at the grow store, only because it's hard to find around here. most areas have it in ample supply)
5-5-5 granular organic fertilizer (i've been using happy frog from the grow store, but other brands will work as well. i plan on trying the plant-tone line when i run out. the npk is negotiable, but i prefer a balanced npk. if anything i'll probably bump it up to a 7-7-7 or 10-10-10)
some kind of dry micro-bug stuff (i use plant success granular, but again, there are other brands. the stuff i use also adds a bit to the npk balance)
azomite (ground up rock from some mine out west, contains all sorts of micro nutes and minerals. really boosted my mix.)
perlite (i would avoid the kind that has plant food in it)
dolomite lime (pulverized/powdered, fine mesh lime. don't bother with agricultural lime or other lime in chunks because it will never break down in time to be of use to you.)

and that's it. to be clear, this is for plants with an established root mass. i wouldn't start a seed or clone in this mix, but it takes a lot of the hassle out of keeping the plants healthy. toward mid-late flower i might hit it with a dose of fish fert and a handful of the 5-5-5 scratched into the surface when she starts to look hungry.

just start out small and each grow add or subtract an ingredient until you get the results you want. you'll have to play with ratios to suit your strains and style. worry less about the brands and more about what's actually in the products and just copy everyone else's mix the best you can. it's what i did at first and it worked out swell for me.
 

AdiiTaff

Member
last year i got the same idea because i got sick of the whole grind of mixing nutes and keeping track of feeding and salt buildup and all the bullshit. super soil has too many ingredients and i don't have room for all that crap. i started with the products from the grow store and little by little i replaced things with items i could get at any old nursery or big box store, i added this, then that, and i now have a real nice mix going.

there are a variety of products that do similar things, so just because you can't get brand xyz doesn't mean you are cheating yourself. i'll lay out my basic mix to give you an idea.

high quality organic potting soil (i use gardner's gold, but there are several reputable brands at any nursery)
worm castings (this i get at the grow store, only because it's hard to find around here. most areas have it in ample supply)
5-5-5 granular organic fertilizer (i've been using happy frog from the grow store, but other brands will work as well. i plan on trying the plant-tone line when i run out. the npk is negotiable, but i prefer a balanced npk. if anything i'll probably bump it up to a 7-7-7 or 10-10-10)
some kind of dry micro-bug stuff (i use plant success granular, but again, there are other brands. the stuff i use also adds a bit to the npk balance)
azomite (ground up rock from some mine out west, contains all sorts of micro nutes and minerals. really boosted my mix.)
perlite (i would avoid the kind that has plant food in it)
dolomite lime (pulverized/powdered, fine mesh lime. don't bother with agricultural lime or other lime in chunks because it will never break down in time to be of use to you.)

and that's it. to be clear, this is for plants with an established root mass. i wouldn't start a seed or clone in this mix, but it takes a lot of the hassle out of keeping the plants healthy. toward mid-late flower i might hit it with a dose of fish fert and a handful of the 5-5-5 scratched into the surface when she starts to look hungry.

just start out small and each grow add or subtract an ingredient until you get the results you want. you'll have to play with ratios to suit your strains and style. worry less about the brands and more about what's actually in the products and just copy everyone else's mix the best you can. it's what i did at first and it worked out swell for me.
wow lol thanks for taking your time to help me out. as im new to growing, i dont really want to try and make my own mix i know for a fact i will f**k up somewhere, so im lookin for an already mixed soil that i can use and just transplant them every 2-3 weeks, so i dont have to use nutes. i have ionic grow and ionic boost but im feeding my plants at 1/4 strength and still burning them. so i want be using it anymore. but if you could show me a already pre-mix soil that would be great :D
 

AdiiTaff

Member
Will miracle gro all purpose compost be ok to grow autoflowers in ? using No nutes what so ever. would it be ok for the plants entire life?
 

Hasbroh

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Will miracle gro all purpose compost be ok to grow autoflowers in ? using No nutes what so ever. would it be ok for the plants entire life?
Read this: http://www.mandalaseeds.com/Guides/Soil-Guide#Recommended brands

It has recommended soil from Europe. Maybe you have some of these in Wales. You'll find all of the info worth reading over and over.

Played rugby and toured in Wales back in high school. Wonderful experience.
 

S1ck

Member
I've done Subcools super soil and after experimenting got the same results with this mix
Ff Ocean forest in bottom third(in 7 gallon)
Mixed with haPpy frog fruit and flower
Then 2parts happy frog soil 1 part ocean forest one part perlite

Ran side by side next to Subcools ss by the book same strain same everything and got slightly better results with my mix
Did a lot of reading and tried ss msm a perlite/spa gum mix and a few others
I like this one Bc it's straight outta the bag
Very little mixing and no cook time cost me less to make too
I like the way this sounds. I would like to get some specifics for my project if possible. Right now I am getting ready to drop my babies in some small pots if FoxFarms Light Warrior until I can get this soil mix worked out.

I am trying to do an organic grow with wick watering in 5 gal containers. How could I tailor your mix to fit my needs?

If I need to add additional fertilizer with this mix I would be looking for something easy that I could either add to the water in reservoir or something. Any suggestions?

I am having a hard time finding all of the organic ingredients I have read about on the forums. I do have access to the FoxFarm line of products (Guano included) but having a hard time finding worm castings at all.

Any help would be much appreciated =)
 
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