JoeBananas
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I would like to hear from the christians on riu.
What is Christ?
What is Christ?
What is Christ?
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pitchforksandtorches
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Hey Joe 
i'm no christian, but i'm guessing it may help if you narrowed that one down a bit.. not many words, but a bloody big question!
it'd maybe get things started if u gave yer own take on it...
as for me, there is a lot of stuff written about the chap, little of which can be substantiated. i feel he was just one in a long line of many spiritual teachers, he probably never called himself the exclusive son of god and probably had no intention of a world religion being based around wild misconceptions, expansions and misuses of his very simple teachings.
i'm no christian, but i'm guessing it may help if you narrowed that one down a bit.. not many words, but a bloody big question!
it'd maybe get things started if u gave yer own take on it...
as for me, there is a lot of stuff written about the chap, little of which can be substantiated. i feel he was just one in a long line of many spiritual teachers, he probably never called himself the exclusive son of god and probably had no intention of a world religion being based around wild misconceptions, expansions and misuses of his very simple teachings.
JoeBananas
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I am sorry I meant what does the word christ mean?
I am not asking for peoples perceptions or interpretations.
Answer the same way one would answer a question like: What is fog?
I am not asking for peoples perceptions or interpretations.
Answer the same way one would answer a question like: What is fog?
pitchforksandtorches
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i believe it means "the annointed one" (thx wiki <3)
doesnt have to mean Jesus of Nazareth/ The Nazarene tho..
doesnt have to mean Jesus of Nazareth/ The Nazarene tho..
JoeBananas
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Kinda but not exactly.
A Christ is the same as a Buddha. It is a higher state of being. An elevated state of awareness, the perfect human consciousness.
Did you notice I never said anything about some white hippie with a Mexicans name?
puffpuffPASSEDOUT
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Christ is a figure that we should model our lives after. We can never be god, but we can live by his side and do good for the sake of society, for our children, for our childrens children...For ourselves.
The bible is nothing but a metaphor for a better life. Pity how we ignore it, and abuse its power to control
The bible is nothing but a metaphor for a better life. Pity how we ignore it, and abuse its power to control
That was really a beautiful description/thought... I agree with you 110%.... However I believe Christ=SALVATION...
The price of sin is death... Through Christ we have defeated death... oooooohhh... wrap your head around that...
God bless you all... Peace and love!
sandmonkey
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His name was never Jesus Christ ad he wasn't white.
He never claimed to be the son of God.
His birthday wasn't December 25th.
I'm not a Christian but in my faith Eesa the son of Mary (whom the corrupt Romans and Jews supposedly killed, dubbed him Jesus Christ, and later spread his religion and voted him the son of God over 300 years after his "death")
Eesa was a mortal prophet- a messenger of God, and is THE messiah; even in Islam.
He never claimed to be the son of God.
His birthday wasn't December 25th.
I'm not a Christian but in my faith Eesa the son of Mary (whom the corrupt Romans and Jews supposedly killed, dubbed him Jesus Christ, and later spread his religion and voted him the son of God over 300 years after his "death")
Eesa was a mortal prophet- a messenger of God, and is THE messiah; even in Islam.
misshestermoffitt
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I'm not a Christian even though I was raised as one. Christ and God are thought to be the same now that Christ is dead.
To me God is nature. A walk in the woods on a summer day, a flower opening to the warmth of the sun, a new born baby bird.
If feel that gathering in a building and praying at the sky while handing over 10% of your income is unproductive. If people want to give to chaity, then give, but don't do it because you think you are buying you way into some happy afterlife.
To me God is nature. A walk in the woods on a summer day, a flower opening to the warmth of the sun, a new born baby bird.
If feel that gathering in a building and praying at the sky while handing over 10% of your income is unproductive. If people want to give to chaity, then give, but don't do it because you think you are buying you way into some happy afterlife.
pitchforksandtorches
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lol, i never mentioned a white hippie - thats a very western view - he was from the middle east after all. the mexican thing?? i wont engage in that 
as for the meaning of "christ" - i feel you are giving you own interpretation, and i feel a member of a messianic sect of judaism (as the chap in question surely was, being "the Nazarene") would also disagree.
i also very much agree that christ and buddha correlate, and feel that heaven and hell are just release and rebirth, after all, the bible was not written by jesus, and has been reduced and reshaped, removing many books as most of us know, and shaped/misinterpreted the message to suit various synods and councils.
as for the meaning of "christ" - i feel you are giving you own interpretation, and i feel a member of a messianic sect of judaism (as the chap in question surely was, being "the Nazarene") would also disagree.
i also very much agree that christ and buddha correlate, and feel that heaven and hell are just release and rebirth, after all, the bible was not written by jesus, and has been reduced and reshaped, removing many books as most of us know, and shaped/misinterpreted the message to suit various synods and councils.
teroblacknight
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I'm a theology maj and a Christian, so let's see if I can give you some insight...
Christ comes from the greek word kristos, it's a title, and as you guys have pointed out, it means something along the lines of savior...the term itself is basically interchangeable with the hebrew word Mashiach, which means messiah, and as ya'll have pointed out earlier, "anointed one"
As to the meaning of "anointed one," Judaism has a completely different meaning than Christianity. Since Judaism is the context in which the whole Jesus thing went down, it's helpful to think about it from a Judaic viewpoint. They thought their messiah would be some sort of mighty military king; someone who would reclaim the throne of King David and secure Israel's kingdom forever. The basic difference between what Christians then believe is that God did send a messiah to Israel (and the rest of the world, but Israel first), but didn't do it in the way the Jews all expected it would. Jesus came as a non-violent messiah, one who was outright denied by many Jews, and for the purpose of securing a new covenant with humanity. This was really nuts because the Christ was exactly the opposite of what the Jews thought he would be...instead of leading them to military victory, he was killed in a graphic, public, shameful way.
In doing so, Christ did not secure Israel as a nation. In fact, it got wiped completely off the map in 70 AD through Roman destruction. He did however (and here's where the religious aspects of Christ come into play) die in order to create a new covenant between man and God; that is, as I'm sure you've all heard a million times before, the forgiveness of sins. Essentially the death of death in the death of Christ.
Christ comes from the greek word kristos, it's a title, and as you guys have pointed out, it means something along the lines of savior...the term itself is basically interchangeable with the hebrew word Mashiach, which means messiah, and as ya'll have pointed out earlier, "anointed one"
As to the meaning of "anointed one," Judaism has a completely different meaning than Christianity. Since Judaism is the context in which the whole Jesus thing went down, it's helpful to think about it from a Judaic viewpoint. They thought their messiah would be some sort of mighty military king; someone who would reclaim the throne of King David and secure Israel's kingdom forever. The basic difference between what Christians then believe is that God did send a messiah to Israel (and the rest of the world, but Israel first), but didn't do it in the way the Jews all expected it would. Jesus came as a non-violent messiah, one who was outright denied by many Jews, and for the purpose of securing a new covenant with humanity. This was really nuts because the Christ was exactly the opposite of what the Jews thought he would be...instead of leading them to military victory, he was killed in a graphic, public, shameful way.
In doing so, Christ did not secure Israel as a nation. In fact, it got wiped completely off the map in 70 AD through Roman destruction. He did however (and here's where the religious aspects of Christ come into play) die in order to create a new covenant between man and God; that is, as I'm sure you've all heard a million times before, the forgiveness of sins. Essentially the death of death in the death of Christ.
GOD BLESS YOU TERO =)
MY HEART IS LIFTED TO KNOW THAT IM NOT THE ONLY ONE ENJOYING this "GARDEN OF EDEN" (metephor for our new COVENANT between man and GOD)... I believe that through Christ we have been wiped clean of our MANY MANY MANY sins... and he still loves us regardless... All we had to do was accept this free gift that was given to us... yes... i mean CHRIST!
God is love
Peace and love to you all 
OregonMeds
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He's a crutch for those that need it, and one of the only two imaginary friends you can believe are real as an adult without getting send to a mental hospital.
A 2000+ year old never ending bad joke.
A 2000+ year old never ending bad joke.
I'm NOT implying that CHRIST is a drug!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I LOVE CHRIST!!!
but i like weed...
is that a sin?
(judge not lest thou be judged... let him who has no sins cast the first stone...)
remember that........?
OregonMeds
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Yea, I remember that from catholic school.. Doesn't apply to me since I'm an athiest now.
But sure, rock on... I don't care what you believe, I just like to poke fun though.
THis is a... What is Christ thread, right?
teroblacknight
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sin is a hard concept to grasp when it comes to weed. In my opinion, the government has kept weed illegal unfairly. However, I can imagine most Christians you will talk to would believe, under the pretext of the duty to local authority, that smoking weed is a sin. This then becomes a tough moral issue because the illegality of weed seems to be an unjust law. So as Christians should we break that law, or should we just blindly obey it? It's a toughie. Personally, I feel the need to educate, and correct Christians who have biased or unclear knowledge on the subject based on propaganda or other mediums. It's interesting to wonder how Christians would feel about weed if it were legalized...would it be ok then? And is that what holds most Christians back? Disregarding local law, I think a few arguments can be made for and against marijuana from a Christian standpoint.
Against marijuana of course is the idea of "asocialism," meaning the slacker effect. If you're stoned, chances are you're contented through it and don't need to look elsewhere for fulfillment. The danger in this is that Jesus is supposed to be our fulfillment...so when weed becomes the focus of one's life, and one is content just toking all day, then it can be a dark thing for a lot of people. However, in opposition to this would be an argument similar to that of beer. It is a substance that makes a person happy, mellows them out, and relaxes them. In this argument, if cannabis is used and not abused, it is alright for a Christian to partake in it.
A third, and separate issue is the idea of medical marijuana. First off, the DEA and the FDA are not God. They do not have divine authority to tell me what is and isn't medicine or moral. In several states, we can even bypass the argument against local government because MM is legal. In my personal opinion, medical marijuana should be treated as any other medicine when it comes to interpreting it from a Christian viewpoint. It's helpful, but like any other medicine, it can be over abused as well. Naturally there are some maladies that require a lot of it, I don't think that's a bad thing, it's just the way it is. On a side note, MM is cheaper and more effective than FDA approved marinol, a drug that uses synthesized THC to relieve pain (at over 700 bucks a bottle)...and if you can grow it yourself, a good indica might give you better results regardless. It seems more immoral to me to develop a drug to make money rather than approve the same naturally growing substance for the simple reason it can't be patented. God made cannabis for a reason.
Brazko
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with that said, I believe people who take aspirin, bayer, ibuprofen, zoloft, ambien, etc.......which were technically illegal in a sense before becoming Gov. approved are all going to hell too. When I get headaches, belly aches, body pain, inablility to sleep, it's not because my body is low on any of the aforementioned drugs.......now I only mean this half heartedly
......just hoping to show the redundancy of what we choose to perceive and aknowledge as sin......You got a hotter ticket to Hell smoking a cigarette I believe.........