'What happened to my refund?'

Ripped Farmer

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Saturday night before the Superbowl, there were still over 1,600 tickets not sold.



What's more, most of the tickets sold for the Superbowl were only sold the last 5 days because the price dropped dramatically when none of them were selling.



The reason for that is simple: none of it is deductible any longer, so companies aren't going to treat people when they actually have to pay for it.

Actual Attendance at the game: 70,071.

Capacity for Superbowl at Mercedes Benz Stadium: 77,500

So, yeah. Not a success. At all.
The claim that it was the first non sellout was wrong for two reasons. The first already happened and all tickets were in fact sold. Attendance, price of tickets or any time frames are some other discussion.

Taxes? I wouldnt think so. Id blame soapboxing before Id think people who spend thousands on a single game would be held back by a few taxes.
 

TacoMac

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I always hold out very little and write them a check. I know interest isn't much, but I would rather get the little bit of it there is, not Uncle Sugar.
And that's the way to do it.

Anybody that gets back a huge return is an idiot. All they did was give the government an interest free loan while lowering their working capital at the same time.
 

too larry

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And that's the way to do it.

Anybody that gets back a huge return is an idiot. All they did was give the government an interest free loan while lowering their working capital at the same time.
Most folks can't stand having money. They will spend it. It only works if you don't spend the money. I suffer from a genetic handicap that keeps me from wasting money. I think I caught it from my Mamma. She was the same way.
 

too larry

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That makes them an even bigger idiot. They just blow the return the day they get it anyway.
I have a cousin who was a rocket scientist. He worked on rockets all his life anyway. He says that if you equally divided up all the money in the world, the ratios would be almost the back to where they were in 10 years. Maybe that is an exaggeration, but some folks just don't handle money very well.
 

Fogdog

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I have a cousin who was a rocket scientist. He worked on rockets all his life anyway. He says that if you equally divided up all the money in the world, the ratios would be almost the back to where they were in 10 years. Maybe that is an exaggeration, but some folks just don't handle money very well.
Is the problem them or the system?
 

too larry

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Is the problem them or the system?
The same cousin has a saying about poor people and tax. "If it wasn't for beer, cigarettes and the lottery, we'd never get any tax money out of those folks." There is a certain amount of truth in that statement.

But it's not just poor people who make bad decisions where money is concerned. I saw this spot on the News Hour a while back.

 

Fogdog

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The same cousin has a saying about poor people and tax. "If it wasn't for beer, cigarettes and the lottery, we'd never get any tax money out of those folks." There is a certain amount of truth in that statement.

But it's not just poor people who make bad decisions where money is concerned. I saw this spot on the News Hour a while back.

we could also point at a certain tax break that is funded by debt.
 

tangerinegreen555

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And that's the way to do it.

Anybody that gets back a huge return is an idiot. All they did was give the government an interest free loan while lowering their working capital at the same time.
I always claimed zero single for 40 yrs.

I liked the idea of getting $10-12K back every year. If you get it monthly, there's a real good chance you or the wife will spend it, especially if you're married to someone who thinks if it's on sale, she should buy it.

And interest rates aren't exactly high these days, it's not 1988.

Idiots don't produce $12,000 on April 15th. Idiots go through it weekly. I always had enough to cover expenses with higher withholding. The big return covered property taxes, vacations and a new appliance when needed.

Some years, that was the only money I saved other than 401K deductions.

Everybody does it different. I was never broke.
 

Fogdog

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I always claimed zero single for 40 yrs.

I liked the idea of getting $10-12K back every year. If you get it monthly, there's a real good chance you or the wife will spend it, especially if you're married to someone who thinks if it's on sale, she should buy it.

And interest rates aren't exactly high these days, it's not 1988.

Idiots don't produce $12,000 on April 15th. Idiots go through it weekly. I always had enough to cover expenses with higher withholding. The big return covered property taxes, vacations and a new appliance when needed.

Some years, that was the only money I saved other than 401K deductions.

Everybody does it different. I was never broke.
You don't get it, man.

Anybody who doesn't do it in the proscribed manner is an idiot. Never mind that the supposed interest accrued on the money that you would have supposedly perfectly estimated as your withholding deduction would be teensy. Then again most people would rather go fishing than give it much thought for those few extra dollars.

Yes, what Taco says is true in an actuarial way. The difference for the average person is not much. But that won't stop our pet didactic from calling down fire and brimstone upon those sinners who claim zero deductions. He's a bit prickly but, like a hedgehog, cute in his own way.
 

TacoMac

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I always claimed zero single for 40 yrs.

I liked the idea of getting $10-12K back every year.
You threw about 400 dollars into the fireplace doing that each year.

Doesn't sound like much, I know...until you figure you've done it for 40 years. That's 16,000 more dollars in your savings account you don't have right now because you'd rather get back a big return than simply invest money wisely by taking time to figure out the proper deduction rate.
 

TacoMac

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some would say (myself) that taco's policy of financing a car is moronic too. pay for it in cash. he won't give the gov't an interest free loan but he will pay wells fargo for finance fees. doesnt' make much sense.
We don't use bank financing on car loans. We don't even use banks. We get 0% from anybody we buy a car from. One of the advantages of having 800+ credit ratings.
 

Bear420

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'67 was the first and only year the super bowl didnt sell out.

Anyway
The Reason the Super Bowl didn't sell out is, For one People are sick of seeing a team (Like the Patriots) getting all the Calls in their Favor to win games and another team that should not even be there. ( LA Rams) That is why it didn't sellout.

The Super Bowl should have been the Kansas City Chiefs and the N.O Saints. Then it would have sold out.... But the Refs wanted to put Brady and the Rams in what may be his last Super bowl game because gee guess what ? Brady's first Super Bowl was against the Rams.

As for the TAX CUTS I said it before and will one more time. If you think this year their taking more from the Middle Class Wait for Five years and it will be more like half of what your making. Next year you may be happy with this years fucking, cuz the next few years are going to be some Pissed off middle class people...
 
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