What do you guys think of the new Anti-Immigrant Law SB 1070 in Arizona?

Babs34 said:

......yw for shitting on the concept of your introduced "thought therapy"
I had a "vocal" ranting, eh?

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wow, 4 emoticons. you must mean business!

apparently you don't have an opinion on SB 1070 then.

and it is solutions focused therapy, not thought therapy.

UncleBuck said:

this is what i found most interesting in your rants. like it or don't, but hispanics will soon make us whites the minority in america with most being legal. why would you be upset that your children are getting relevant education?

this IS still america, the great melting pot. we allow immigrants in and have no parties that mirror the BNP. get used to the fact that YOU will soon be a minority (assuming you're white).

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I just ate and your juvenile mentality is disturbing my digestion.

RELEVANT EDUCATION? H E L L O...........LET'S TEACH THEM THE ABC's and ENGLISH FIRST. As of now, they are NOT the majority, so let's not live as if they are.


It is a slap in the face to every immigrant that went through proper procedures in LEGALLY being here to witness the millions abusing the system!

Should I become the minority, it will be due to moronic explanations and justifications such as yours (assuming I'm white, that is.)

UncleBuck said:

wow, 4 emoticons. you must mean business!

apparently you don't have an opinion on SB 1070 then.

and it is solutions focused therapy, not thought therapy.

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HAHAHAHA..............YEAP, I MEAN BUSINESS.........
My opinion has been very clear.......no "thought therapy analogy" necessary.

LOL @ "solutions focused therapy."

Please, do quit wasting my time with these antics.

Babs34 said:

R I D I C U L O U S

1) The employer who gets the minimum wage worker is just as, if not MORE guilty than the ILLEGAL immigrant. And again, "you say" they work harder. That's a lie.
2) The "hard working illegal" who would much prefer to see the NATIVE and "their" family PERISH.
3) At the rate this country is and has been going, the NATIVE is NOT going to be reaping the benefits of social security.
4) Uncle Sam is STILL paying for their medical bills, food, along with all other "burdens" you deem THEIR RIGHT.

........now tell me, just WHERE did this FALSE SS# come from? I'm sure you will tell me they too are innocent in how that was obtained?

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you asked me 'who benefits?', so I replied honestly.

do you deny that illegals pay approx $7 billion into the system every year and will never receive anything in return? that seems like a benefit to me, it seems to irk you but it is the plain old truth.

the employer benefits. like you say, he is just as guilty, but he benefits. as far as work ethic goes, i would put my money on an illegal worker over a complacent american any day.

the illegal benefits. you assert that they want my family and your family to perish? you are deluded if you truly believe that. mexicans by and large have stronger faith than most places in the bible belt.

did you not see where i already mentioned the illegal would not benefit from ss despite paying in? it would defeat the point of me saying it is a benefit to the legal senior.

as far as entitlements go, i have no numbers but would wager that with the money they pay into medicare and ss and unclaimed returns it far outweighs whatever entitlements they may receive. taking advantage of entitlements is prevalent in many places and races, especially white trailer trash. most mexicans i've known are deeply religious and conservative and the last person you would expect to see in a welfare line.

Babs34 said:

I just ate and your juvenile mentality is disturbing my digestion.

RELEVANT EDUCATION? H E L L O...........LET'S TEACH THEM THE ABC's and ENGLISH FIRST. As of now, they are NOT the majority, so let's not live as if they are.


It is a slap in the face to every immigrant that went through proper procedures in LEGALLY being here to witness the millions abusing the system!

Should I become the minority, it will be due to moronic explanations and justifications such as yours (assuming I'm white, that is.)

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you WILL become the minority, it is just a matter of time. if you doubt this, that would only serve as explanation for the rest of your thought process.

thus, learning spanish at an early age, when it is easiest to do so, is a good idea

Babs34 said:

HAHAHAHA..............YEAP, I MEAN BUSINESS.........
My opinion has been very clear.......no "thought therapy analogy" necessary.

LOL @ "solutions focused therapy."

Please, do quit wasting my time with these antics.

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SFBT is an 'antic'?

wow, just wow

tell that to the millions of people who live better lives thanks to this practice. you amuse me

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UncleBuck said:

you asked me 'who benefits?', so I replied honestly.

do you deny that illegals pay approx $7 billion into the system every year and will never receive anything in return? that seems like a benefit to me, it seems to irk you but it is the plain old truth.

the employer benefits. like you say, he is just as guilty, but he benefits. as far as work ethic goes, i would put my money on an illegal worker over a complacent american any day.

the illegal benefits. you assert that they want my family and your family to perish? you are deluded if you truly believe that. mexicans by and large have stronger faith than most places in the bible belt.

did you not see where i already mentioned the illegal would not benefit from ss despite paying in? it would defeat the point of me saying it is a benefit to the legal senior.

as far as entitlements go, i have no numbers but would wager that with the money they pay into medicare and ss and unclaimed returns it far outweighs whatever entitlements they may receive. taking advantage of entitlements is prevalent in many places and races, especially white trailer trash. most mexicans i've known are deeply religious and conservative and the last person you would expect to see in a welfare line.

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Oh Dear God......."someone" has SEEN THE LIGHT.
Just LOOK at what YOU POSTED............FALSE, FALSE, FALSE.
Just stop posting to me........THE LAST PERSON YOU'D SEE IN A WELFARE LINE????

WAKE UP ALICE.

Babs34 said:

Oh Dear God......."someone" has SEEN THE LIGHT.
Just LOOK at what YOU POSTED............FALSE, FALSE, FALSE.
Just stop posting to me........THE LAST PERSON YOU'D SEE IN A WELFARE LINE????

WAKE UP ALICE.

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what is so false? do you truly believe the illegal wants your family and mine dead?

do you not believe the illegals pay 7 billion into the system every year (by conservative estimates)?

where is your proof that illegals use a disproportionate amount of entitlements?

you seem happy to just write all these facts off, and i am happy to point out your error all day long. but wouldn't it be productive if you actually informed yourself abut what in this debate is factual and what is simply populist anger?

methinks the answer is yes.

i guess it is simply too easy to direct all your vitriole at a supposed boogey man then to focus on what really needs fixing in order to mitigate the real problems of border violence and a sensible pathway to citizenship

UncleBuck said:

you asked me 'who benefits?', so I replied honestly.

do you deny that illegals pay approx $7 billion into the system every year and will never receive anything in return? that seems like a benefit to me, it seems to irk you but it is the plain old truth.

the employer benefits. like you say, he is just as guilty, but he benefits. as far as work ethic goes, i would put my money on an illegal worker over a complacent american any day.

the illegal benefits. you assert that they want my family and your family to perish? you are deluded if you truly believe that. mexicans by and large have stronger faith than most places in the bible belt.

did you not see where i already mentioned the illegal would not benefit from ss despite paying in? it would defeat the point of me saying it is a benefit to the legal senior.

as far as entitlements go, i have no numbers but would wager that with the money they pay into medicare and ss and unclaimed returns it far outweighs whatever entitlements they may receive. taking advantage of entitlements is prevalent in many places and races, especially white trailer trash. most mexicans i've known are deeply religious and conservative and the last person you would expect to see in a welfare line.

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yet the welfare line is still full of them. interesting.

fdd2blk said:

yet the welfare line is still full of them. interesting.

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a mind boggling fact, considering they are fast becoming the majority in this country

does anyone here have some citations that show how disproportionately they abuse the entitlement system? or are we going to continue expounding this imaginary fact?

UncleBuck said:

a mind boggling fact, considering they are fast becoming the majority in this country

does anyone here have some citations that show how disproportionately they abuse the entitlement system? or are we going to continue expounding this imaginary fact?

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i drive by the welfare office to refill my oxygen bottles, once sometimes twice a week. usually first thing in the morning. the line is 97% mexicans.

i'm a minority in my town, so what. what's your point? wouldn't they hold the majority of welfare claims and well? being the majority that they are.

why is califonia broke?

we are speaking of illegals residents. they do not belong here.

UncleBuck said:

what is so false? do you truly believe the illegal wants your family and mine dead?

do you not believe the illegals pay 7 billion into the system every year (by conservative estimates)?

where is your proof that illegals use a disproportionate amount of entitlements?

you seem happy to just write all these facts off, and i am happy to point out your error all day long. but wouldn't it be productive if you actually informed yourself abut what in this debate is factual and what is simply populist anger?

methinks the answer is yes.

i guess it is simply too easy to direct all your vitriole at a supposed boogey man then to focus on what really needs fixing in order to mitigate the real problems of border violence and a sensible pathway to citizenship

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UncleBuck said:

a mind boggling fact, considering they are fast becoming the majority in this country

does anyone here have some citations that show how disproportionately they abuse the entitlement system? or are we going to continue expounding this imaginary fact?

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You do know how to google, yes?
The fact that you even ask for proof they use disproportionate "entitled rights" only displays ignorance.
California alone pays over 10.5 billion.

Where did I ever throw out the idea that they as a group wanted us dead?

Google the statistics on that one too Buck.......how many natives daily die by their hands?
My sister was one of them Buck.

I am ENTITLED to be enraged over that////explain away as to why I'm not.

you are entitled to be enraged....at murderers. not whatever race or nationality that murderer is from.

murderers come in all colors.

Babs34 said:

R I D I C U L O U S

1) The employer who gets the minimum wage worker is just as, if not MORE guilty than the ILLEGAL immigrant. And again, "you say" they work harder. That's a lie.
2) The "hard working illegal" who would much prefer to see the NATIVE and "their" family PERISH.
3) At the rate this country is and has been going, the NATIVE is NOT going to be reaping the benefits of social security.
4) Uncle Sam is STILL paying for their medical bills, food, along with all other "burdens" you deem THEIR RIGHT.

........now tell me, just WHERE did this FALSE SS# come from? I'm sure you will tell me they too are innocent in how that was obtained?

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this is the quote that gave me the sentiment that you think illegals want our families dead. i used perish in the sense of dying, maybe you construed it some other way that is less severe.

UncleBuck said:

you are entitled to be enraged....at murderers. not whatever race or nationality that murderer is from.

murderers come in all colors.

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How did I just know you would come back with a childish comment like that?.....and act as if you posted something of redeeming value?
The FACT is that my sister would likely still be here today had it not been for people like yourself ENABLING them to be here ILLEGALLY.
Stop the BS nonsense with RACISM.

UncleBuck said:

this is the quote that gave me the sentiment that you think illegals want our families dead. i used perish in the sense of dying, maybe you construed it some other way that is less severe.

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Perish = SUFFERING.......naturally, you don't see this happening.
According to your dense logic, it happens only amongst the illegals.
---save your ignorant response.

UncleBuck said:

you asked me 'who benefits?', so I replied honestly.

do you deny that illegals pay approx $7 billion into the system every year and will never receive anything in return? that seems like a benefit to me, it seems to irk you but it is the plain old truth.

the employer benefits. like you say, he is just as guilty, but he benefits. as far as work ethic goes, i would put my money on an illegal worker over a complacent american any day.

the illegal benefits. you assert that they want my family and your family to perish? you are deluded if you truly believe that. mexicans by and large have stronger faith than most places in the bible belt.

did you not see where i already mentioned the illegal would not benefit from ss despite paying in? it would defeat the point of me saying it is a benefit to the legal senior.

as far as entitlements go, i have no numbers but would wager that with the money they pay into medicare and ss and unclaimed returns it far outweighs whatever entitlements they may receive. taking advantage of entitlements is prevalent in many places and races, especially white trailer trash. most mexicans i've known are deeply religious and conservative and the last person you would expect to see in a welfare line.

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And WHAT I asked is HOW does it benefit any one that they are using FALSE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS?
Ask yourself how they obtained those FALSE ss#'s.....and if it hurt any one else in the process by that act alone.

MY PERSONAL INFORMATION WAS STOLEN BY AN ILLEGAL on TOP of what you attempt to make LIGHT of in another thread.

EDUCATE YOURSELF!!!

Immigrants stealing U.S. Social Security numbers for jobs, not profits - Americas - International Herald Tribune


Immigrants stealing U.S. Social Security numbers for jobs, not profits - Americas - International Herald Tribune - The New Yo...

Babs34 said:

MY PERSONAL INFORMATION WAS STOLEN BY AN ILLEGAL on TOP of what you attempt to make LIGHT of in another thread.

EDUCATE YOURSELF!!!

Immigrants stealing U.S. Social Security numbers for jobs, not profits - Americas - International Herald Tribune


Immigrants stealing U.S. Social Security numbers for jobs, not profits - Americas - International Herald Tribune - The New Yo...

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then be mad at identity thieves, not illegals. illegals aren't the only ones stealing identities, einstein.

not to mention the fact that in all your rage, you happened to say one thing that upset you was spanish language education in a country that is already hugely hispanic (mostly legal, to boot).


we probably agree on a lot. nonetheless, i do think your rage is misplaced