What are the negatives of Atheism?
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Dizzle Frost
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i dotn think any religion or lack of is bad, its how you act in life that makes you what you are....to me religion is jus something to belive in, or something to have faith in.....theres good ahiests, and bad ones to, same with christians and muslims...jus my 2c
religion fascinates me for its history, but thats about all it does fo rme lol
religion fascinates me for its history, but thats about all it does fo rme lol
Heisenberg
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How can there be inherit negatives to atheism when atheism is just the failure of theism to provide a convincing argument? You can certainly find negative attributes that are often found among atheists, but these are not qualities that derive from or are unique to an atheistic stance. You can find negativity in the misrepresentation of atheism, as I'm sure this thread will demonstrate, but those are simply straw man arguments. You can say atheism prevents you from living in an afterlife paradise, but that is only so if religion is true. I am open to the idea that atheism could have negative aspects and am interested in having them pointed out, but I am guessing this thread will produce nothing but the mistaken opinions I just outlined.
Hepheastus420
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Sizzle frost pretty much said what I was trying to say. Luger made this thread because I said something like atheists have as many negative attributes as Christians or something like that. But my point is that you make religious people seem so evil when atheists can be just as evil.
Hepheastus420
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go look up the link between atheism and suicide. Suicide has a huge negative impact.
Luger187
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lets hear some of those negatives to atheism....
Heisenberg
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Religion offers a path to evil that is unique to religion because it provides justification for good people to commit evil acts. Do I need to point any further than the treatment of women in some Muslim communities for evidence? How about the systematic practice of mutilating female genitals? Think that is just a barbaric practice found in remote parts of the world? It is done en mass to infant boys in america for no other reason than religion. Try telling the girl who has acid thrown on her face simply because she attempted to learn to read that religion does not give birth to evil practices.
This thread is not about the tendency for some people to be evil and some people to be good. It is about the negative consequences that are unique and inherit to atheism, vs those found in religion. I have just listed a scant few we find in religion, and await others to list ones we find with atheism.
Now, my view is that the problem is not worship of a deity, it is the uncritical adherence to dogma. It is the blind following of religious teachings. It is religions intolerance of inquiry and critical analysis. It is mans inclination to pervert religion into justification for evil intentions, religions inherit potential to be perverted, and religious followers tendency of self delusion in order to overlook these things.
Hepheastus420
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Dude. Seriously. Look at the first post you quoted. Think really hard. If you need some help I meant that atheists can be evil, Christians can be evil, Muslims can be evil...... Pay attention.
Hepheastus420
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did you look up the link between atheism and suicide?
Luger187
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again, what are the negative attributes of atheism? you said it would be easy. what are the bad things that atheism directly causes someone? we have direct connections between religion and evil. what about atheism?
edit: i would honestly love to know, just like heis would. if anyone can show us negative aspects of atheism, that will widen our views and show us new things. show us
Heisenberg
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No, but I encourage you to point it out so that we can examine it.
Atheism isnt bad nor is religion bad or good it all is how you perceive yourself in the end that will matter.
Dizzle Frost
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is it possible to kill youself in cold blood? always wondered that
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Yes. I am living proof.
Dizzle Frost
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thanks for clearing that up LOL
ThE sAtIvA hIgH
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another useless thread started by a desperate person
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
~big cheez-eating grin~
I just did a bit o'Googling in re "atheism suicide link". The only info, and I use the term loosely, promoting such a link comes from obviously pro-religious fora.
If the posters advancing that argument can show such a link *without* referring to a biased source, and can *clearly* demonstrate absence of religion as the primary proximate direct cause of self-induced death in a population sample who are notoriously lax at filling in the post-event survey form ... I'll pay attention. Until then,
~unconcealed yawn~
cheers'neer
ps I do not count myself an atheist. Imo declaratively stating "there is no godhead" is just as f***ed as saying, "there is a God here are [his] attributes and compliance instructions". I count myself an agnostic; less controversy that way. Fwiw.
I just did a bit o'Googling in re "atheism suicide link". The only info, and I use the term loosely, promoting such a link comes from obviously pro-religious fora.
If the posters advancing that argument can show such a link *without* referring to a biased source, and can *clearly* demonstrate absence of religion as the primary proximate direct cause of self-induced death in a population sample who are notoriously lax at filling in the post-event survey form ... I'll pay attention. Until then,
~unconcealed yawn~
cheers'neer
ps I do not count myself an atheist. Imo declaratively stating "there is no godhead" is just as f***ed as saying, "there is a God here are [his] attributes and compliance instructions". I count myself an agnostic; less controversy that way. Fwiw.
ThE sAtIvA hIgH
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if you think life is not worth living without a creator then you have serious mental problems most likely caused by religious indoctrination as a child , i suggest you seek compensation .
Luger187
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excuse me? how am i desperate? he said there was negatives to atheism, so i called him out on it. whats the problem?
yeah thats what i saw when i googled it too. i wonder if they consider anyone who doesnt go to church an atheist. also homosexuals have a pretty high suicide rate.