We're all fuct now

al i have a weird question for you... kind of grow philosophy related i guess...
what kind of plant to do you like to grow?
fast finishers, mega yeilders... pretty plants, smelly plants...

thanks man

I like reliable high yielders, but there's some I've run across which are flavourless or otherwise deficient. I didn't much like Skunk #1, for example. makes a ton of dope but you really get tired of smoking it. The best plant is a compromise of yield, high, mould/fungus resistance and nice flavour. Some of those are subjective, but the best compromise I've so far found is Sweet Tooth #4 from Spice of Life Seeds.

can someone please help me out
trying to find the temps being exhausted out of a single 1000w or a double 1000w air cooled tubes
or ultimately if anyone can pull the magic number out of 4 x 1000w air cooled tubes,
these are the temps I'm actually trying to discover to test my DIY icebox project (links in my sig)

Thanks in Advance

SoG

A 1000HPS in a cooltube should raise the air temp passing it by about 6C i.e. 20C in, 26C out. If you pump air through the cooltube faster, the output temp will come closer to the input temp. If your output air is more than about 6C warmer than the intake air, you may have too long a duct, not enough fan power or too many bends in the duct.



You can run 2 cooltubes in a series run. More than that and the temp differential between the grow room air and the cooltube air gets to be enough that the cooltube glass gets warm to the touch. Pyrex doesn't insulate terribly well. If it's warm to the touch, it is conducting heat back into the grow room airmass, which is the problem you're trying to solve!

If you have 4 cooltubes, run two seriesed pairs, with each pair getting a feed from ambient. This will most efficiently remove heat from your lighting without convecting much heat off the cooltube hardware & duct surfaces and into the room air.

Hey Al!
I can't believe I have this wonderful opportunity to communicate with you...My wife know you as "my guru", because of you I learned so much...I went from buying shit schwag to smoking stuff I only saw in photos. Its all based on your stickys...thats where I learned EVERYTHING. Your knowledge will live on bro! If I could only ask you one thing I guess it would be...to flush, or not to flush?

thanks for the insight good sir

and that "tit" link was very nice
good looking out!

Thank you Al, your the best bra
ill be running two 8" tubes per bank, with an 8" 667cfm MaxFan blowing in each bank
each bank will receive air from an 8" tube that brakes out of a 10" main tube of fresh air etc...
my plans are to merge both these banks into a single exhausting duct down the line
then brake all the heat at once in a single location, and possibly cycle it back to the main area room as cold air

here is my diagram
ice box didn't exist at the time of planing,
it will be placed at the end of the exhaust line as part of the 12" exit

My DIY IceBox and

My testing facility


my rooms diagram (both these tents are located inside sealed general room 30" x 15" (10m x 5m))


Sun Tube & AAW combo placement


i think you know who inspired this build

Al B. Fuct said:

Hi yawl, just popped in for a lookabout. Want you all to know how mightily impressed I am with the general quality of discussion and advice going round the boards. I had feared that when I no longer had time to answer grow op queries that this place would devolve back to pseudocience-spouting. It mostly hasn't. YAY!

When I first showed up here a few years back, muddleheaded fans of molasses, CFLs for everything, LEDs and organic nutes were leading earnest new growers down the rosy garden path.

I pounded the keys day and night in the hopes that a bit of science would stick, and to no small degree, it has.

Well done, rollituppers. Keep up the good work.

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Al what up man. I first learned all from you man! You should have a look at my journal if you ever get a chance and a contest coming up. Thanks for you info again and again my brother!kiss-ass

Al B. Fuct said:

...but if you think that was fucking tits, you ought to see this.

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al............. thanx for the info about the ac units. do u got a web site on that pic of the split unit u showed. i found some split units myself but i can't make that big of a hole for the size of those. but that one you showed me wood be perfect. plus one more ? for you.......... what are some bad ass bloom enhancers or boosters for hydro/ebb n flow buckets? i just used advance nuts big bud powder and it was f...ked up do to the fact the powder clogged everything and created gray moss and bact. i need full synthetic boosters if u could steer me to some info of your know how! and thank you so dam much!! really though guy ur a big help.............. some people on here are ass's and act like they wer doing this for ever and never had a first time/start. again thank u!!

Welcome back Al!
I can't tell ya how many times I've been through your various threads as my grow has progressed. You're an invaluable source of help - thanks

Nico Bellic 44 said:

Hey Al!
I can't believe I have this wonderful opportunity to communicate with you...My wife know you as "my guru", because of you I learned so much...

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Tell the wife I'm real sorry about that perpetual supply of dope.

I went from buying shit schwag to smoking stuff I only saw in photos. Its all based on your stickys...thats where I learned EVERYTHING. Your knowledge will live on bro!

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coolio.

If I could only ask you one thing I guess it would be...to flush, or not to flush?

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Optional. Certainly not necessary, but if it makes you feel better you can do it.

SOG said:

Thank you Al, your the best bra

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So, you're thanking me for all the support?

My DIY IceBox and

My testing facility

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Wow, very inventive. You have an endless, free supply of ice somewhere?

i think you know who inspired this build

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It looks... hmm, you know... familiar, sorta.

Interesting work, very skillful. Well done.

greengiant69 said:

what are some bad ass bloom enhancers

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The only bloom enhancers worth using are phosphorus & potassium based sorts, like Canna PK13-14. They get used in wk6 only. Start with about 1/4 the mfr's recommended rate. P boosters are well known for cooking plants. You may do better without them.

some people on here are ass's and act like they wer doing this for ever and never had a first time/start. again thank u!!

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s'okay, I taught those cats everything they know. And I'm humble about it, too. Did I ever tell you that I invented dirt? True!

Ahzweepay said:

Welcome back Al!
I can't tell ya how many times I've been through your various threads as my grow has progressed. You're an invaluable source of help - thanks

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Thanks. Glad I've been able to help make it go for ya.

Thought youse guys would get a kick out of this.



Two funny old stoners popped in town recently.



They were kind enough to 'graf a Mexican bud vase for me.



This one's gone straight to the pool room.



It'll show up someday on The Collectors or Antiques Roadshow, where they'll all joke about how quaint it was long ago, back when pot was a crime.

It'll show up someday on The Collectors or Antiques Roadshow, where they'll all joke about how quaint it was long ago, back when pot was a crime.

AL-You should come to the S.F.V ,CA. U.S.A. I was walking out of one of the many MMJ clinics, here in the Valley , carrying my little "lunch bag". As I crossed the street, 2 of LAPD's finest drove by. They knew where I was coming from, and they knew what was in the bag. Not even a second look ,they didnt even care that I was jaywalking. If thats not legal, I dont know what is.

Thanks for answering my previous question now I dont have to worry about scent leaks this summer as the weather man has reported that we are gonna have a heat wave this year.

Al you see that pic below? Any idea how people manage to grow tall plants in small containers, I mean how is it that it isnt root bound?

Fman said:

If thats not legal, I dont know what is.

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I agree, it sure looks like legalisation, but there's still a certain artifice to it when you have to prove a medical need, etc.

There's no doubt that it beats the holy motherless fuck out of what I gotta deal with- 20 years in my neck o' the weeds for indoor cultivation with hydroponics.

US pot laws may indeed turn a corner soon. It's never been higher on the national agenda. If US law changes, Australian law will follow in a few years. Maybe.

iloveit said:

Any idea how people manage to grow tall plants in small containers, I mean how is it that it isnt root bound?

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Those plants are far too tall for any indoor op (looking to be about 3-4' to me, you can see the grower has added fill lights, which won't do much, but he's clearly concerned about sparse lower growth), but they're not really big plants as cannabis plants go. Most strains will grow to 8-10ft outdoors in good conditions.

Cannabis plants don't really make huge rootmasses, but I think you're right, those plants would be wanting bigger pots if they weren't so close to harvest anyway.

Rootmasses on plants that are regularly (especially automatically) watered tend not to get extensive as they don't have to search for water.

Al B. Fuct said:

Those plants are far too tall for any indoor op (looking to be about 3-4' to me, you can see the grower has added fill lights, which won't do much, but he's clearly concerned about sparse lower growth), but they're not really big plants as cannabis plants go. Most strains will grow to 8-10ft outdoors in good conditions.

Cannabis plants don't really make huge rootmasses, but I think you're right, those plants would be wanting bigger pots if they weren't so close to harvest anyway.

Rootmasses on plants that are regularly (especially automatically) watered tend not to get extensive as they don't have to search for water.

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Ah I get it. Cheers.

Al B. Fuct said:

Wow, very inventive. You have an endless, free supply of ice somewhere?
It looks... hmm, you know... familiar, sorta.
Interesting work, very skillful. Well done.

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Thank you Al,
and yes you have mentored me through the hurdle of getting started
your posts have inspired many of us to push the limits
so here some of the results id thought id share

lol, i don't have an endless ice supply,
its a water res connected to a chiller
circulating cold water through the radiator coils,
the radiator will be placed inline on my 12" main exhausting line
so all the air passing through will get cooled as it passes

SOG said:

Thank you Al,
and yes you have mentored me through the hurdle of getting started
your posts have inspired many of us to push the limits
so here some of the results id thought id share

lol, i don't have an endless ice supply,
its a water res connected to a chiller
circulating cold water through the radiator coils,
the radiator will be placed inline on my 12" main exhausting line
so all the air passing through will get cooled as it passes

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I just saw your soG grow room op for the first time, WOAH! Well done thats a nicely presented thread. Do you mind me asking how much (approx) the entire setup cost?