Welthink Ballasts WARNING

Discussion in 'Indoor Growing' started by Mike Huntstinks, Jan 12, 2010.

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    Mike Huntstinks

    Mike Huntstinks Active Member

    I purchased 20 1000W ballasts from Welthink in Virgina Beach, VA. Within 6 weeks ALL 20 failed, one almost burned down my house. These units are serious S**T!!! To top it all off when I called Sonny (ironic name) at Welthink he told me that the smoked units were not covered under the 3 year swap out warranty they claim. He tried to feed me some bulls**t that the damage wasn't covered and that I had tampered with the units. Having not even seen the faulty units, I find it hard to believe that plugging them in is considered "tampering" with them.

    Save your money and buy a ballast from Lumatek or another reliable source. These Welthink made in China crap ballasts aren't worth their weight in horse s**t.
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    greensister

    greensister Well-Known Member

    Sorry about your luck dood. Freaking cheap chineese crap being sold here. Im afraid to give my kid toys anymore.
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    Mike Huntstinks

    Mike Huntstinks Active Member


    It seems as though this isn't an isolated incident either. I did a little searching and Welthink ballasts are very well known to be garbage among growers. I just wish that these posts had of been available before I got burned by Welthink! There is actually a website out there that is exposing them www.welthink.info

    Anyways, heads up to anyone considering buying Welthink products...
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    GoldenGloves

    GoldenGloves Member

    I would stay away from Lumatek one of my 1000s blew up, when taking it back
    a guy who bought 12 600's was returning 6 of them from blowing up.

    Good experience with NextGen though!
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    Mike Huntstinks

    Mike Huntstinks Active Member

    Here is a cut/paste fromn another forum where the Welthink guys are caught with their pants down. The proof is coming out now and I am more then glad to keep everyone updated.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by keico [​IMG]
    I couldn't help but email Sonny personally and ask him about this.

    Here is his response.

    Thank you for your kind reminder. Here is the fact:

    There was a distributor who purchased Welthink ballasts and they modified power output although Welthink told them not to do that. If they do, Welthink won't honor warranty. Now these modified ballasts died and they asked the factory to warrant these ballasts. The factory refused. So they threatened to destroy Welthink reputation.

    Welthink honors 3 years warranty. But it has a premise, that is, without manufacturer's permission, no modification was made.

    You needn't worry about this. If your ballast was not modified by the distributor, Welthink will honor 3 years warranty.

    Thanks,
    Sonny

    So obviously this guy is pissed, because he modified the units and they failed, then he wants then to replace them.

    Just wanted to let everyone know.

    There is always two sides to the story


    Complete BULLS**T!!! Sonny is a Liar. Keep checking out the website www.welthink.info and you will see 100% conclusive evidence that Welthink ballasts are pure GARBAGE!!!

    Sonny even shipped us out 48 Welthink brand (Not OEM) 1000W warranty replacement units that ALL FAILED within a few months.

    NO MODIFICATIONS WERE MADE to these units. This is a cover up by Welthink and Sonny. We will be publishing emails, skype conversations, etc. with the jokers as proof.

    And as for Sonny claiming we are threatening to ruin his reputation.... COMPLETELY FALSE. In fact here is an exceprt from a chat we had in Alibaba just yesterday..

    ------------- cut / paste --------------

    **** ******: hello (2010-01-11 16:45:16)
    Welthink Company:hi(2010-01-11 16:45:43)
    **** ******: what is your name? (2010-01-11 16:46:09)
    Welthink Company:Sonny.(2010-01-11 16:46:21)
    **** ******: are u in china? (2010-01-11 16:46:29)
    Welthink Company:USA.(2010-01-11 16:46:36)
    **** ******: how can i contact the china company? (2010-01-11 16:46:47)
    Welthink Company:[email protected](2010-01-11 16:47:12)
    **** ******: i purchased 500 ballasts from them and I have over 200 that are faulty (2010-01-11 16:47:34)
    **** ******: do you handle warranty issues? (2010-01-11 16:48:08)
    Welthink Company:Please contact the factory.(2010-01-11 16:48:20)
    **** ******: ok (2010-01-11 16:48:37)
    **** ******: I was going to post pictures of the units on the internet because i cannot get any support from china (2010-01-11 16:49:27)
    **** ******: and build a website showing the faulty products (2010-01-11 16:49:46)
    Welthink Company:You can contact our factory.(2010-01-11 16:50:15)
    **** ******: they are ignoring me (2010-01-11 16:50:25)
    **** ******: it seems as though they do not honor the warranty (2010-01-11 16:51:15)
    **** ******: which is pretty bad (2010-01-11 16:51:22)
    **** ******: so I am going to publish a website (2010-01-11 16:51:35)
    **** ******: the website is already highly ranked for the keyword "welthink ballast" (2010-01-11 16:52:43)
    **** ******: and before i publish all of the negative information about welthink I wanted to give you one last chance to make good on the warranty issues (2010-01-11 16:54:24)
    **** ******: I am also contacting alibaba and trade key with regards to the underhanded dealings conducted by welthink (2010-01-11 16:55:34)
    Welthink Company:The factory said that you modified something inside.(2010-01-11 16:55:48)
    **** ******: no we did not (2010-01-11 16:55:56)
    Welthink Company:So you have to contact the factory. (2010-01-11 16:56:07)
    **** ******: we recieved units from you in USA and those units all failed as well (2010-01-11 16:56:28)
    **** ******: you sent us 48 1000w units and EVERY one of them blew up (2010-01-11 16:56:48)
    **** ******: these are your units (2010-01-11 16:56:53)
    **** ******: I dont want to have to publish the bad press for you (2010-01-11 16:57:17)
    **** ******: but I am going to do this (2010-01-11 16:57:26)
    **** ******: and I am going to sue welthink USA here in canada (2010-01-11 16:57:39)
    **** ******: make you come up here and hire an attorney (2010-01-11 16:57:52)
    **** ******: I am also in contact with the chinese trade commission here in canada (2010-01-11 16:58:09)
    **** ******: I am in the process of having welthink products banned from canada (2010-01-11 16:58:31)
    **** ******: for import (2010-01-11 16:58:34)
    **** ******: the amount of money this is going to cost welthink will be huge (2010-01-11 16:58:57)
    **** ******: when compared to the small cost of horoning the warranty (2010-01-11 16:59:29)
    **** ******: honoring (2010-01-11 16:59:38)
    Welthink Company:Please contact the factory.(2010-01-11 17:00:08)
    **** ******: the factory does not return my calls or emails (2010-01-11 17:00:35)
    **** ******: it is pointless (2010-01-11 17:00:39)
    **** ******: do you think that welthink wants the bad PR I am prepared to generate? (2010-01-11 17:01:07)
    **** ******: I am giving you a fair chance to make good on the warranty (2010-01-11 17:01:27)
    Welthink Company:I am here to distribute their products.(2010-01-11 17:01:30)
    **** ******: so you can also handle warranty issues (2010-01-11 17:01:51)
    **** ******: I have 200 pieces of junk (2010-01-11 17:02:02)
    **** ******: and the number is growing (2010-01-11 17:02:10)
    **** ******: why are these units failing? (2010-01-11 17:02:25)
    **** ******: are you telling me that it doesnt bother you if we publish photos and corespondence over the internet of the faulty products and explain how terribly welthink has treated us and how they are refusing to honor the warranty they advertise? (2010-01-11 17:04:19)
    Welthink Company:If the units were sold by me, I can handle it. But if they are not sold by me, I can not handle it. I am sorry.(2010-01-11 17:04:25)
    **** ******: I hve 48 of your 1000w units here (2010-01-11 17:05:08)
    **** ******: welthink units (2010-01-11 17:05:14)
    **** ******: your stickers (2010-01-11 17:05:22)
    **** ******: can i send these back to you? (2010-01-11 17:05:31)
    **** ******: you shiped the units to me last spring (2010-01-11 17:06:06)
    **** ******: what about these units Sonny? (2010-01-11 17:07:06)
    Welthink Company:Do you know who I am and where do I live?(2010-01-11 17:07:15)
    **** ******: I do not know you (2010-01-11 17:07:33)
    Welthink Company:Where were the units shipped from?(2010-01-11 17:07:39)
    **** ******: They were shipped from you (2010-01-11 17:07:56)
    **** ******: in Virginia beach (2010-01-11 17:08:05)
    **** ******: you have records of shipping them to me (2010-01-11 17:08:21)
    Welthink Company:Funny. I have never sold that units to Canada.(2010-01-11 17:09:43)
    **** ******: so you are going to deny that you have not shipped me these units now? (2010-01-11 17:10:37)
    **** ******: they came from Welthink USA, Virginia Beach, Virginia 23455 4756-101 Birdsong Lane (2010-01-11 17:12:08)
    **** ******: this is you is it not (2010-01-11 17:12:13)

    ------------------ end -----------------------

    BLAH... BLAH... BLAH....

    As you can clearly see, Welthink is trying to sidestep their responsibility associated with their 3 year warranty. You can also clearly see that we have been trying to handle the issue in a reasonable manner up until now.

    Sometimes the only way to deal with a scamming company like Welthink is to hang their dirty laundry out where everyone can see it.

    Also, by no means is the above conversation even the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the months of proof we have compiled.

    If Sonny is a straight up guy then why doesn't he send one of his so called "unmodified" units to a legit independent unbiased 3rd party for inspection and we will do the same thing with one of these bunk units that Welthink sold us and we can all see who is trying to F**K who here????

    The longer you try to avoid your legal responsibilities the worse it's going to get Welthink. Everything we post is 100% truthful and will be submitted as evidence in the law suit that will be following shortly.

    BUYERS BEWARE!!!!
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    IAm5toned

    IAm5toned Well-Known Member

    buy ballasts from advance... trust no other manufacturer, advance is the real deal, what pros use. the other crappy shiot you buy from hydro stores and online shops are overpriced b/s gimmicks... a magnetic ballast is a transformer, a peice of wire wrapped around a solid metal core... a digital ballast uses a triac and some transistors to do the same thing a magnetic one does.
    why pay for some bullshit when you can you have the best made for less...
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    tea tree

    tea tree Well-Known Member

    i dont know. I had a magnetic that worked I thot fine. I bought a lumatek and with the same bulb when I plugged it in I was stunned. I thought that the 30 percent brighter claim was gonna be nothing to be noticed but I noticed. In a big way this was much brighter. I have two now, a 400 and a 600 and they work perfect. Hot starts are a pain but work. Shit happens. They come in professional boxes, obviously well cared for and have a five eyar warranty. Lumatek, but for 20 I have no idea about that league. GL. I did a lot of research tho and would not touch anything but Lumatek and maybe quantum digital.
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    aquadirtbag

    aquadirtbag Member

    I own a hydro store, and I talk with sonny regularly. I've never met the man before, but he has helped me every time I talk with him. also, lumatek, galaxy, and about 99% of all digital ballasts are made in china. I've sold about 100-120 of the welthink ballasts and only had a problem with 2.
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    Keenly

    Keenly Guest

    first post is skeptical
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    northeastern lights

    northeastern lights Well-Known Member

    My Lumetek is still going strong, so is the second 600 I purchased.:bigjoint:
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    cowboyframer

    cowboyframer Active Member

    I own 3 welthink ballasts and have had no problems for over 3 months now. Either i'm lucky or this is a bunch of crap.

    Cowboy
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    la9

    la9 Well-Known Member

    Kinda of contradictory, they sell good stuff, they replaced the 48 ballasts we got from them after they failed right off the bat......................

    I have never seen anyone or know of any reason someone would modify the power output of a ballast. If anyone has more information on why someone would do this let me know.
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    kawgomoo

    kawgomoo Active Member

    Alright, ive read this thread again and again. I just have to chime in.

    I believe the "20" ballast that got fried, were modified by SUN PULSE to run there junk bulbs.

    If you people believe lumatek and quantum to not be made in china, well you are just ignorant and fooling yourselves.

    The truth is very few manufactures MAKE digital ballast, however many BRANDS sell them.

    Internally, much of these ballast are the same. What you are buying and paying for is brand name, and of course there advertising budget.

    Though i am not affiliated with welthink, i do use there products.

    I have never known sonny to deny anyone a warranty. If you open a ballast and modify its internal workings, why on earth would the manufacture back up that product? its not even there product anymore.

    I encourage ANYONE that believes a word of what this Mike person says to contact Sonny and make your own decision.

    Everyone that reads this should email welthink, tell them you bought a ballast from wherever and it went bad.

    See what Sonny's response is...i guarantee he will NOT tell you "tough luck"
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    Mike Huntstinks

    Mike Huntstinks Active Member


    Anyone who doesn't take the words of warning will be sorry. I purchased the units from Welthink directly and never modified anything. Welthink ballasts are shit... 100% shit.. end of story. Do a little research and you will see that this is not an isolated problem. In fact, I'll put up the cash to buy 1 400w, 1 600w and 1 1000w just to have them delivered to an unbiased 3rd party to prove to everyone once and for all that Welthink ballasts are shit!!!

    If sonny is so inclined to honor his warranty why doesnt he step up here on RUI in front of everyone and take back the 20 pieces of shit he sold me?????

    C'mon Sonny, I am calling you out. Be a man and replace the 20 garbage Welthink units your company manufactured...
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    Mike Huntstinks

    Mike Huntstinks Active Member


    Your words say it all... "48 ballasts... failed right off the bat"

    Enough said...
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    dank nug

    dank nug Active Member

    thanks for the heads up. off to see what brand the ballast is that im about to buy *crosses fingers*
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    daze860

    daze860 Member

    You my friend have been called out! First folks let me start by saying ive only registered here to help you out a bit. Welthinks ballast, leds, and most everything else blows to be frank. I own a hydro shop, and let me tell you its never easy to get a new unit or have yours fixed. We dont carry it anymore, It is true most lights are manufactured in china, no doubt. But our American wholesalers etc, require higher standards, welthink is a direct deal with retailer company, so they are up to chinese standards.

    Now on to our little friend who has changed one letter in his or her name to appear to be a " neutral party"," who only uses welthinks products but doesnt know sonny" Those are your words correct?

    NO AFFILIATION OTHER THAN WARRANTIES RIGHT?

    FOLKS CLINK THE LINK BELOW AND TELL ME IF ITS COINCEDENCE.

    aNYONE NEEDING HELP OR INFO OR EVEN A PHONE NUMBER TO REACH SONNY, JUST ASK BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND i WILL BE HAPPY TO OBLIGE. CLASS ACTION ANYONE?

    Again click the link.

    http://myworld.ebay.com/kawgomoo&ssPageName=STRK:MEFSX:SELLERID
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    daze860

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    daze860

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    Alright, ive read this thread again and again. I just have to chime in.

    I believe the "20" ballast that got fried, were modified by SUN PULSE to run there junk bulbs.

    If you people believe lumatek and quantum to not be made in china, well you are just ignorant and fooling yourselves.

    The truth is very few manufactures MAKE digital ballast, however many BRANDS sell them.

    Internally, much of these ballast are the same. What you are buying and paying for is brand name, and of course there advertising budget.

    Though i am not affiliated with welthink, i do use there products.

    I have never known sonny to deny anyone a warranty. If you open a ballast and modify its internal workings, why on earth would the manufacture back up that product? its not even there product anymore.

    I encourage ANYONE that believes a word of what this Mike person says to contact Sonny and make your own decision.

    Everyone that reads this should email welthink, tell them you bought a ballast from wherever and it went bad.

    See what Sonny's response is...i guarantee he will NOT tell you "tough luck"







    PS: I own a hydro shop, I have so many returned ballasts and leds its sickening. I shared the above to let everyone know KOWGOMOO IS A FRAUD. By their own words, they have no affiliation other than being a user of the product, ummmm well ya sell a ton of it on ebay. Gotcha sucker, you have alot of nerve, but obviously not alot of brains. Why Lie? I as a store owner have had to bite the bullet and give refunds on multiple lights from Welthink. Sonny asked that in the leds we change the ignitors, never did, why you ask? Because as soon as we would of, the so called warranty would be invalid due to missuse or tamperment. Sonny new that, and I called him on it, i sent back a 300 watt led, he sent a 90 watt ufo, lets be serious. Thats the only one he ever honored as a warranty, all the others sit at my shop and rot, well actually some still have a row or 2 of lights working so at night we glow the front of our store with them, it attracts attention at night, but they are broken, multiple rows of lights out etc. The ballasts run good on average abot 6 months to a year, then all hell breaks loose. Anyway folks a class action sounds good about now. And if anyone needs any help or info, let me know. We can always call Sonny at home, I do have the number. Except the language barrier is insane. Hope that helped

    AND KAWGOMOO, EVERYTHING COMES AROUND TO BITE YA IN THE ASS EVENTUALLY, YOUR TIME HAS COME. SO GO SELL THOSE WELTHINKS ON EBAY
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    daze860

    daze860 Member

    Pss: Kawgomoo the picture of your ebay profile is touching!!!!!!!! Lmao

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