Week 3 Flower and havent had to feed, only AACT and Great White

MammothGrow

MammothGrow

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Hey everyone, im curious, Im using roots organics 707 soil in smartpots. I veged for 8 days, and they are 3 1/2 weeks into flower. I've only given them Great White mycorrizhae at transplant, compost tea week 1, and great white again beginning of week 3 flower. They are lush green and no signs of defiency. Do you think their really is enough food in the soil already that I dont need to feed them some nutes yet? Original OGKush and some Afghoo plants. Thanks for your input!
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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MammothGrow said:
Hey everyone, im curious, Im using roots organics 707 soil in smartpots. I veged for 8 days, and they are 3 1/2 weeks into flower. I've only given them Great White mycorrizhae at transplant, compost tea week 1, and great white again beginning of week 3 flower. They are lush green and no signs of defiency. Do you think their really is enough food in the soil already that I dont need to feed them some nutes yet? Original OGKush and some Afghoo plants. Thanks for your input!
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how big are the pots, and how big are the plants? I'd need more info to offer you any helpful advice. And if you gave them a compost tea, you probably have some nutes left in the soil, if you are feeling like you need to feed them, i'd use a mild EWC topdress, with a speck of guano or something in it. But it all depends on the size of your plants and smartpots.
 
MammothGrow

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greasemonkeymann said:
how big are the pots, and how big are the plants? I'd need more info to offer you any helpful advice. And if you gave them a compost tea, you probably have some nutes left in the soil, if you are feeling like you need to feed them, i'd use a mild EWC topdress, with a speck of guano or something in it. But it all depends on the size of your plants and smartpots.
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They are in 3 gallon pots, and they are on average 29" tall and should be done getting any taller since they usually top out around now(halfway through week 3). The compost tea was a basic recipe using only Malibu Compost, Black Gold Earthworm Castings, and Denali Alaskan Hummus, brewed for 22 hrs at 72 degrees. Heres some pics. Ive been using the entire Roots Organics line such as Buddha Grow, Buddha Bloom, extreme serene, trinity, ancient amber, hp2, and hpk. Last crop I gave them tea and nutes right off the bat and they showed what I thought was a deficiency right away and gave them more food but they didn't get any better. Turns out the nutes were probably just locked out. This time decided no food until they show a deficiency and they are still beautifully lush and the leaves are praying to the sun god. Just wondering if they will reach their maximum potential as long as they stay lush green without giving extra nutes or do I need to start giving them some food now to make sure they hit their maximum potential. Thanks for your reply!
 

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greasemonkeymann

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MammothGrow said:
They are in 3 gallon pots, and they are on average 29" tall and should be done getting any taller since they usually top out around now(halfway through week 3). The compost tea was a basic recipe using only Malibu Compost, Black Gold Earthworm Castings, and Denali Alaskan Hummus, brewed for 22 hrs at 72 degrees. Heres some pics. Ive been using the entire Roots Organics line such as Buddha Grow, Buddha Bloom, extreme serene, trinity, ancient amber, hp2, and hpk. Last crop I gave them tea and nutes right off the bat and they showed what I thought was a deficiency right away and gave them more food but they didn't get any better. Turns out the nutes were probably just locked out. This time decided no food until they show a deficiency and they are still beautifully lush and the leaves are praying to the sun god. Just wondering if they will reach their maximum potential as long as they stay lush green without giving extra nutes or do I need to start giving them some food now to make sure they hit their maximum potential. Thanks for your reply!
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nice looking plants, although if you want to save save some money and learn some cool info, i'd suggest the ROLS no till thread, you could save a LOT of money, not to mention grow some fantastic plants, not saying those don't look fantastic, but I imagine you are spending a good amount of dinero on bottled stuff.
My rule of thumb regarding soil and organics is two gallons per foot of growth, so for you, i'd suggest a 7 gallon, or a 10 gal to be optimal.
since you are getting into teas, I really suggest checking out the ROLS and no-till thread, it's not just for no-tillers, but it has very pertinent information I think all organic growers should learn.
Judging on the pics i'd say you have another 6-10 inches of vertical growth, depending on the strain, maybe more, maybe less, but that'd be three feet of growth, so i'd go with a 7 or 10 gallon smartpot, keep in mind the smartpots hold less than advertised, i'd go with a ten gallon personally.
hope this helped
 
MammothGrow

MammothGrow

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greasemonkeymann said:
nice looking plants, although if you want to save save some money and learn some cool info, i'd suggest the ROLS no till thread, you could save a LOT of money, not to mention grow some fantastic plants, not saying those don't look fantastic, but I imagine you are spending a good amount of dinero on bottled stuff.
My rule of thumb regarding soil and organics is two gallons per foot of growth, so for you, i'd suggest a 7 gallon, or a 10 gal to be optimal.
since you are getting into teas, I really suggest checking out the ROLS and no-till thread, it's not just for no-tillers, but it has very pertinent information I think all organic growers should learn.
Judging on the pics i'd say you have another 6-10 inches of vertical growth, depending on the strain, maybe more, maybe less, but that'd be three feet of growth, so i'd go with a 7 or 10 gallon smartpot, keep in mind the smartpots hold less than advertised, i'd go with a ten gallon personally.
hope this helped
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I did 16 plants per tray this time, normally 20 which fills the 4x4 trays completely. went with 16 this time thinking that way just need to get 2 oz per plant to get 2 lbs per light. if I go with bigger pots I have to veg longer cause it would be less plants. Also, Ive been growing these 2 strains(same mothers) for about 2 1/2 years now, they always stop growing vertically 3 1/2 weeks into flower. As far as nutes I was wasting a lot of money when I was full strength feeding from week 2 on every 3 waterings. I lowered my room temp to approximately 76, so now I only have to water every 3 -4 days as opposed to every other day when It was 82. And now it doesn't look like I need to start feeding till week 4 of flower so the nutes will last much longer. I want to get into doing an inoculant tea, veg tea and bloom tea, just need to get some more funds from the this crop to buy what I need. Especially want to get a microscope so I can really dial the teas in. but for now I have to stick with this. I guess my main question was just as long as they are lush green with no stress signs they are going to hit their maximum potential and just feed once they show a slight deficiency. Which I think I know the answer to that just doubting myself a little
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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MammothGrow said:
I did 16 plants per tray this time, normally 20 which fills the 4x4 trays completely. went with 16 this time thinking that way just need to get 2 oz per plant to get 2 lbs per light. if I go with bigger pots I have to veg longer cause it would be less plants. Also, Ive been growing these 2 strains(same mothers) for about 2 1/2 years now, they always stop growing vertically 3 1/2 weeks into flower. As far as nutes I was wasting a lot of money when I was full strength feeding from week 2 on every 3 waterings. I lowered my room temp to approximately 76, so now I only have to water every 3 -4 days as opposed to every other day when It was 82. And now it doesn't look like I need to start feeding till week 4 of flower so the nutes will last much longer. I want to get into doing an inoculant tea, veg tea and bloom tea, just need to get some more funds from the this crop to buy what I need. Especially want to get a microscope so I can really dial the teas in. but for now I have to stick with this. I guess my main question was just as long as they are lush green with no stress signs they are going to hit their maximum potential and just feed once they show a slight deficiency. Which I think I know the answer to that just doubting myself a little
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i'm not sure I could answer this question accurately, my technique is too different, the plants look good though, maybe see if you can find a pot that isn't much bigger than what you are using, i'm convinced with 2 gallon pots that they'd do significantly better with more room.
you asked about potential, that's what I based my answer on. You look like you have it under control fairly well, i'd just do things a lil differently, personally, but a wise grower, I know, always says this. "more than 100 ways to skin a cat"
I just wish I would have discovered wormbins, SSTs, composting, and FPEs, years ago. May wanna check those out
 
MammothGrow

MammothGrow

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greasemonkeymann said:
i'm not sure I could answer this question accurately, my technique is too different, the plants look good though, maybe see if you can find a pot that isn't much bigger than what you are using, i'm convinced with 2 gallon pots that they'd do significantly better with more room.
you asked about potential, that's what I based my answer on. You look like you have it under control fairly well, i'd just do things a lil differently, personally, but a wise grower, I know, always says this. "more than 100 ways to skin a cat"
I just wish I would have discovered wormbins, SSTs, composting, and FPEs, years ago. May wanna check those out
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yeah I agree about the pot size, was thinking I can probably fit 16-4 gallon pots in the tray, these og's stretch so much I cant veg too long cause my ceiling is low(lots of topping could help this, I normally top them twice). Yeah ive been reading up on the vermicompost, really want to get into that. I need to start making my own soil so I can put what I want in it, that's the next step for me. THANK YOU for the input :)
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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MammothGrow said:
yeah I agree about the pot size, was thinking I can probably fit 16-4 gallon pots in the tray, these og's stretch so much I cant veg too long cause my ceiling is low(lots of topping could help this, I normally top them twice). Yeah ive been reading up on the vermicompost, really want to get into that. I need to start making my own soil so I can put what I want in it, that's the next step for me. THANK YOU for the input :)
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no problem at all, I can honestly say my wormbin is one of my favorite things, I may just be weird, but those lil guys are awesome, I love putting garbage in there and ending up with the BEST worm castings ever, and if you put rockdusts and such in there you can sorta "supercharge" your castings too. Good stuff.
 
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