Weed Wars

how much do they get paid working at harbour side

i think they did a great job with the show

regarding judging peoples clothing....seriously? ever been to hawaii? look at your conformist self in the mirror before u spout lol..this is oakland its not like he was wearing a police uniform and shot a handcuffed kid laying on his chest in the back or anything lol...clothing is a joke

jpill said:

I agree, that kid with the spider mites was obviously not watching his crop.. WTF was he thinking. That shit had webs all over it. IT would take at least a month of infestation to get that amount of webs and mites

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It really doesn't take that long sometimes.

Mite infestations can go from a couple harmless spots to totally fucked beyond repair in a week. Even when you think you've sprayed thoroughly several times, they are still likely to come back full force. If you get em while you're plants are pretty big and flowering, you're going to have a mite problem your whole cycle most likely. All you can do is manage them so they don't get out of control at a certain point.

I've got mites living outside in the forest outside my house on bushes. I ended up having to seal my room and my cloning room because of them. Haven't had a problem since I've done that, but I'm extremely paranoid of them and dip every clone and then still spray on a regular basis.

Mites are hell! Can happen to anyone if you're not extremely careful. And even if you are, they can still happen.

damn i miss cali. i remember going to to third floor and picking up some blue dot. gotta give props to dr. fry one of the first doctors to fight this bullshit with the feds..

The second episode was much better than the first. it had a lot less pothead behavior in it, and more of the positive benefits for the community.

Couple guys from the Texas hosted BBQ told me i look like a guy from Weed wars ..


Lol.

Dan Kone said:

Just finished watching it. Very disappointing. It makes the industry look like a bunch of buffoons. It's an embarrassment. Also, I don't buy it. It would be impossible for that group of people to make the decisions required to have that successful of a business. Those are the front people, the real decision makers at harborside (also the real money behind it) remain mysteriously absent from this show leaving the false impression that these buffoons are the brain trust behind harborside. From a business stand point, that is impossible. That group of people would not be capable of creating such a successful business model with the way they acted in that show.

So the only question I have is where is the real behind the scenes leadership from harborside? Why were they not in the show? And why did they make the choice to have their business shown as being run that badly?

Harborside is the most financially together club in California. I know this first hand. Fiscally that place runs like a Swiss watch. But from watching that show you'd think it's amazing they stay in business at all. I can't quite put my finger on what's off about this show yet. But there is a huge lie in there somewhere. They are definitely giving a false portrayal of who they are, the question is why?

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I'm fascinated by the suggestion that the "real decision makers" sought to make "the industry look like a bunch of buffoons" by making "the choice to have their business shown as being run that badly". I'm all for following the money when it comes to understanding what 'really' happens in politics and business, but why would this supposed secret concern damage their own interests by turning public opinion against their frontmen? Maybe that's part of what you're asking with your ultimate question there?



I feel like Steve does a good job of consistently framing things positively and I think part of this comes from the fact that he not only believes in the cause, but the facts are there to support his case.

But the American government hasn't historically been too kind to men with long braids and alternative medical practices, and I suspect the population at large retains some of that prejudice to this day. And along with David Wedding Dress, who, I can be totally neutral toward, and you still wonder if the minds 'we' are looking to win over might find that jarring.

Put another way, Steve's spoken message is on point, but their visual presentation might be offputting to mainstream America?

I wonder what Jon did with that pound that he could not sell there ? I bet he didn't throw it away !

Sneakyleeg said:

Couple guys from the Texas hosted BBQ told me i look like a guy from Weed wars ..


Lol.

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You look exactly like the guy with the spidermites. All you need now is a messenger bag with 3 big mason jars and you should be able to walk into a shop and get 4k a pound.

infrared said:

I'm fascinated by the suggestion that the "real decision makers" sought to make "the industry look like a bunch of buffoons" by making "the choice to have their business shown as being run that badly". I'm all for following the money when it comes to understanding what 'really' happens in politics and business, but why would this supposed secret concern damage their own interests by turning public opinion against their frontmen? Maybe that's part of what you're asking with your ultimate question there?

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Yes, that's basically what I'm asking. What's in it for them to make themselves look that bad?

My best guess is that it's entirely for the benefit of law enforcement, IRS, etc. Something like "see we're a bunch of idiots! While on paper it looks like we're making a lot of money, but look at how badly we mismanage things! We're no threat to you, nor are we a potential source of revenue. Nothing to see here, move on." Pure speculation of course.

I feel like Steve does a good job of consistently framing things positively and I think part of this comes from the fact that he not only believes in the cause, but the facts are there to support his case.

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He didn't come off as bad as the rest of them, but I still found him completely unimpressive.

But the American government hasn't historically been too kind to men with long braids and alternative medical practices, and I suspect the population at large retains some of that prejudice to this day. And along with David Wedding Dress, who, I can be totally neutral toward, and you still wonder if the minds 'we' are looking to win over might find that jarring.

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Here's the thing. I've got no problem with the braids or a guy wearing a dress as long as they don't act like negative stereotypes. In the 60's people did things like grow their hair long to break preconceptions and social regulations. I very much respect and support such things. These guys did neither. They both looked and acted like a republican politician would stereotype the MMJ movement. That's not a positive in my book.

If a guy came out wearing a dress, with those braids, whatever and then broke preconceptions of what you'd expect him to act like, I'd love that. If you look like a party hard dead head and then bust out with extensive legal, medical, horticultural, or financial knowledge then I'd be applauding him.

But if you come out there looking like a party hard dead head and then proceed to act like that stereotype, I'm not impressed at all.

Put another way, Steve's spoken message is on point, but their visual presentation might be offputting to mainstream America?

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When put in combination with how they acted, it's off putting to me. That's not what I'm about nor is it something I want to be associated with.

It reminds me of the lyric from the dead kennedys "Nazi punks fuck off".

"Punk ain't no religious cult,
Punk means thinking for yourself.
You ain't hardcore cause you spike your hair
When a jock still lives inside your head"

Same applies here. You're not some beatnik hippie because you like to smoke weed, wear tie die, have long hair, etc. They did that for a reason, to help people see the world a little different. These guys look and act like they are doing it to fit into some genre. They are negatively stereotyping themselves. I'm just not about that shit.

Starting to watch the second episode right now. Started off with what sounded like my boy's mix tape. Good start!

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Just finished watching it. Awesome! 10000x improvement. That was exactly what this show should be.

Awesome show.. not bias.. no propaganda.. i applaud discovery for this.

I hated the first episode....talk about reinforcing the california marijuana stereotype. The second episode was better, minus the rasta guy talking about meditation while picking out clones....that made us look really legit

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Yes, that's basically what I'm asking. What's in it for them to make themselves look that bad?

My best guess is that it's entirely for the benefit of law enforcement, IRS, etc. Something like "see we're a bunch of idiots! While on paper it looks like we're making a lot of money, but look at how badly we mismanage things! We're no threat to you, nor are we a potential source of revenue. Nothing to see here, move on." Pure speculation of course.

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Interesting hypothesis...thanks for spelling that out.

Dan Kone said:

Same applies here. You're not some beatnik hippie because you like to smoke weed, wear tie die, have long hair, etc. They did that for a reason, to help people see the world a little different. These guys look and act like they are doing it to fit into some genre. They are negatively stereotyping themselves. I'm just not about that shit.

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Makes me curious: if we were going to put forth a figurehead to be something like the 'posterboy' for medical marijuana, what kind of person would be most compelling and relatable to 'undecided' or otherwise influence-able voters?

infrared said:

Makes me curious: if we were going to put forth a figurehead to be something like the 'posterboy' for medical marijuana, what kind of person would be most compelling and relatable to 'undecided' or otherwise influence-able voters?

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Someone intelligent, principled, and highly motivated. Valerie Corral from WAMM comes to mind as the the perfect figure head for medical marijuana. She had the first Co-op in California (2003) and fits the bill exactly. The medical marijuana system we have today is largely thanks to her.

http://www.aclu.org/criminal-law-reform/profile-medical-marijuana-activist-valerie-corral

Although if the harborside people act like they did on the second episode instead of the first I've got no complaints at all.

I've been watching the show so far and love it. Kind of wish I was in a legal state. Since I work from home I might move my operation out there next year. I like the fact that harborside is actually showing the beneficial side of MMJ as opposed to people like hashbar.tv that just make the entire integrity of MMJ look like a sham.

Can't believe that guy stevie stealing the money from a pound donated. Thats really fucked up. If he was really hurting for money he should of just went to DeAngelo and asked for help. It probably wasn't his first time stealing from harbourside.

was he really addicted to pills or did they plan that to slam big pharma. if he was addicted that sucks. either way loved how they slammed big pharma saying you get addicted and you steal. nice..also they threw that word out there. you know the main ingreident that makes herion.

dass said:

was he really addicted to pills or did they plan that to slam big pharma. if he was addicted that sucks. either way loved how they slammed big pharma saying you get addicted and you steal. nice..also they threw that word out there. you know the main ingreident that makes herion.

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I think him (Stevie) saying that he needed the pills for pain, actually hurt the MMJ movement a little. I mean he's an MMJ user, but it was t enough to help with pain so he kept using pills after his prescribed time. Isn't the whole point of MMJ being its a more natural alternative to pharmaceuticals?