weed country

jimmer6577

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Just wanting to hear peoples opinion on the new T.V. show. Something tells me there should be some pretty good ones out there. So come on and share them. I've watched both episodes and being scenerio's are probly very accurate some even true but the show just seems way to scripted or miss leading in the way they show their footage as the same network filming the show moonshiners did. Runnig different footage at the same time to give the illusion some totaly different happend until the end of the show when they finally show what really happens your like damn thats all that was. Kind of like smoking a joint and not getting hi but still smoking just because. So you cali people how accurate is this show. I can only speculate from my knowledge of some of the aspects. Thanks in advance for the input.
 

sully

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Did you see the plants they eradicated at that 'big' outdoor grow that they found on last nights show? Those things were fugly, there were like 12 yellow & dry plants. the cops were like look at these things they're ready for harvest with some nice budding going on. You would of thought they stumbled on a massive field of weed. They totally suck you in with the editing. cool show though.
 

jimmer6577

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Fugly is being nice. that looked liked weed on crack. Now the guy who's been growing since the 70's his crop was looking sweet. It sucked they took the guys crops at the end of the show. I liked the fact he was willing to risk him self way more than normal by trying to help the kid with severe seizures in last week episode. That would be see how he makes out producing a strain high in cbo but absolutely no thc.
 

Indagrow

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hate the production value, and how dramatic it is.. guess its cool its about weed, but i rolled over in bed saw it was weed country watched a dude yell at a jeep in the middle of the street with his arms up, then rolled back over and went to sleep... so thats how i feel about it.
 

gioua

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have not seen the last ep but I love how the cops always say there is xxx millions of plants ready for harvest and not one has a flower.. all are in veg state..

I am wondering now if they see a tomato plant w.o fruit and try to eat the plant or try to make some salsa?
 

canndo

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They have made the region into the wild west, it isn't. They interdiction teams like to think of themselves as Afghan front line troops - they aren't but they are play acting. Oh these hard core pot smokers are out to get us. The only thing they have to fear are the mexican cartels who have set up shop there - likely the source of those anemic little plants and the locals will drop a dime on the cartels in an instant.


The guy making a dangerous smuggling run? you don't smuggle unless you are crossing guarded borders. If the guy drives the limit, has his car maintained and has his stash in a reasonably secure place, scent sealed he is withn his full constitutional rights and will not go to jail - they need this sort of artifical suspense. I have friends who drive in those areas with 30 lbs in the car without a care and without harrassment either.


Another stupid show that winds up informing the public that all pot growers are somehow evil, why they are evil even if they DO want to help epilpetic children.
 

Indagrow

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i just want more bud porn on the show come flower time later in the season

it would be like playboy, i just look at the pictures don't really listen to the commentary
 

canndo

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Well this one isn't as bad as that gold rush series where every lost bolt, every bump in the road, every man with a sniffle is grounds for impending doom according to the anouncer - all too dramatic for me.


There is a new method out in some of the counties - I hope they don't hate me for telling - it seems that some folks are taking to building platforms high in the trees and growing their pot there - I don't know how the presurize their drip systems but I've seen the botoms of some of the platforms, some maybe 20 feet above the ground - they say the police (interdictionists) pass right under them all the while sniffing and saying "damn, it must be here somewhere". My suspicion is that it isn't the best quality but we saw the anemic - likely cartel grow that they were all oooh and aaahing about.


But the guy who is just growing out in the open is either not revealing everything or is not practicing some of the diverstion tactics. Some of the old timers are growing decoy crops. In Humboldt very few folks are going to jail, but their generators and equipment are being confiscated and the plants taken so they simiply grow a decent crop in the open and sacrifice it during "helicopter season".


And it is true that these folks work hard for not much money. I have a very close friend who has been growing outdoor and indoor for 25 years up there and he tells me that the best year he ever had was $120k after expenses, rippoffs, failed fronts, early frost, powdery milldew, loopers, neglect of his helpers, the fickle nature of the market the rising price of diesel, soil vendor gouging, failed water supplies, and the rising price of trimmers and THEIR penchant for filching just a bit more than argeed upon - "outdoor? no, I'll give you 9000 for a ten pack and not a penny more and even once, a land slide.

He says the biggest threats are the long timers who still figure that their pot has to sell for 3.5k - that old timer who claimed that "middlemen" don't contribute and should be cut out of the equation is wrong. They provide a service and that service should be principly born by the grower. Warehousing, wholesaleing establishing a dependable distribution network, taking on a piece of the risk, and often transport as well makes brokers and jobbers worth what they expect.

An interesting show anyway, it's the interdiction folk that worry me - they seem to have an emotional connection to eradicating "illegal" grows. That guy claims that sure, there are laws that let folks grow "so called medicinal" (meaning of course he doesn't believe in the medicinal qualities) but he has a personal interest in stopping this stuff from being grown, that kind of ideological insanity only makes things worse. If they could slow down the cartels, keep them from federal land they would have far less of a problem with the wholesale pollution, the guns, the traps, and the diversion into recreational consumption of inferior smoke.


Well - that's my two cents speaking as a long time guest to the inhabitants of Humbolt and their rather pleasant lifestyle. My last communication with my best friend up there was "dude, we got a new batch of green Kona coffee beans, get your ass down here and share a cup and a Partagas with me". His response was "I just had my fill of fresh dungeness, keep your coffee" - bastard.
 

jimmer6577

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if they were casing my place I wouldnt be in the street yelling, I would have a better more persuasive tool.
the car looked like a land/rango rover, jeeps dont have that tall of a roof.
I'd say this guy is definately staging every thing he does. I don't live in a med state but have travled up and down the highways of this country for years with large amounts of various illegal substances during my years going to shows and festivals and never as close to as stress as he seems . I cant beleive he had his ryder video taping the tripp to study later. I sure and the hill wouldn't be flapping my arms at a vehicle that kept driving in front of my house. Not even a (ripper) is stupid enough to be that obvious about casing a place and if its the feds what the hell will that actually succed in doing . Absolutely nothing but makeing you look like a idiot.
 

canndo

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if they were casing my place I wouldnt be in the street yelling, I would have a better more persuasive tool.
the car looked like a land/rango rover, jeeps dont have that tall of a roof.

A persuasive tool tends to add to penalties for growing, posessing, transporting or vending - many refrain from having any sort of firearm for that very reason. Another thing is the terrible inconvenience of cash. Cash, lbs of pot and a glock will be a very difficult combination to explain to folks who don't understand and may not wish to.
 

playallnite

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It sucks,too scripted, sick of bud porn, etc. I just wanted those police choppers to take an RPG, fucking misfit criminal pigs.
 

smokajoe

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Fugly is being nice. that looked liked weed on crack. Now the guy who's been growing since the 70's his crop was looking sweet. It sucked they took the guys crops at the end of the show. I liked the fact he was willing to risk him self way more than normal by trying to help the kid with severe seizures in last week episode. That would be see how he makes out producing a strain high in cbo but absolutely no thc.
A) Anyone have info on CBO? B) did they mention what strain?

On topic: The shows ok, I have happened to watch only half of each episode but it was good (or maybe its the weed)?
 

sully

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Haha great stuff, seems like everyone on this side of the game knows it's more or less b.s. but still entertaining. I agree w indagrow, more bud porn please! Ol' B.E.'s plants looked healthy as fuck. a real deep green coming near harvest. It also seems like B.E. and his buddy didn't care much for the dispensary guy driving thru the triangle in the 70k porsche cayenne. I believe he was referrred to as a parasite. lol
 

jimmer6577

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A) Anyone have info on CBO? B) did they mention what strain?

On topic: The shows ok, I have happened to watch only half of each episode but it was good (or maybe its the weed)?
I sorry I typed it in wrong the O was really a D CBD. sorry for that. As far as the strain he said he was going to research one hi with cbd and low thc then see if he could breed just the thc out of it. I to would like to know if anybody has more info on this.
 

blacksun

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First episode, not even five minutes in, LEO says "If I've prevented just one person from smoking a bowl, getting behind the wheel and killing a minivan full of kids, I've done my job".

/facepalm like a mother fucker
 

canndo

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Haha great stuff, seems like everyone on this side of the game knows it's more or less b.s. but still entertaining. I agree w indagrow, more bud porn please! Ol' B.E.'s plants looked healthy as fuck. a real deep green coming near harvest. It also seems like B.E. and his buddy didn't care much for the dispensary guy driving thru the triangle in the 70k porsche cayenne. I believe he was referrred to as a parasite. lol

Welll.... there is a problem. The California laws provide for non-profit. Now that can mean lots of things but anyone driving around in that sort of a car with no visible means of support other than his dispensary will be hard pressed to explain how his non-profit orgainzation is capable of supporting his purchase or lease of such a vehicle. Also, he is out on bail which must surely be in the half a million dollar range - and his house doesn't look like much in the way of equity.

It is clear that he was raking in more than a standard salary and stipend for his efforts. That C3 guy that was busted after repeated Federal warnings was found to have hundreds of thousands in cash strewn all over his house. If you are going to claim to be operating a non-profit then you might think to look the part of a community member who is concerned for the plight of the typical marijuana user. No harm in paying yourself a reasonable salary but he makes the Fed's claim that the CA laws are being abused look pretty authentic.
 

canndo

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First episode, not even five minutes in, LEO says "If I've prevented just one person from smoking a bowl, getting behind the wheel and killing a minivan full of kids, I've done my job".

/facepalm like a mother fucker


Yeah, I heard that - it included his being willing to shoot, AND kill lawbreakers, parade around in paramilitary garb and acoutriments, spend hundreds of thousands on overflights and sophisticated detection equipment. If he really wanted to save a life, he might consider donating the salaries of all those highly paid interdiction officers who get hazardous duty pay each time they walk into the forest PLUS the choper fuel to Saint Judes - odds are he will be saving dozens of children's lives - but it is the other thing he said that got me.


"If we can keep just one person from picking up a pipe and going on to harder drugs...." or something along that line. Of course it is highly probable that he and his unit stop by the local watering hole after a hard day of uprooting the work of mostly honest craftsmen and nurturing farmers. As likely- many of them climb into their SUVs and take those winding two lane roads back to their homes.


What a load of rot - I'd love to confront some of them.

I did have a chance once - I may have told this story before. I was involved in a church group that traveled deep into Mexico to assist in building a school and low income habitat.


Two of the proctors smelled funny (some of us who have been in the trade long enough can smell authority). I asked one of them (FBI or DEA?) he said DEA and he didn't want that to get out because he could be in serious trouble with the natives. The other guy was, as I had suspected, FBI. The DEA guy went on and on about a child he held in his arms as she died of a heroin overdose, she was a 13 year old mule and one of the balloons burst in her stomach. He said he was going to spend his life hunting down those who would do such a thing.

Over the course of the two weeks we were there I actually managed to convince the poor guy that he was at much at fault for the child's death as the dope runners. The guy actually thanked me for my concern and my reasonable discussion- he was the only DEA that I had ever seen seriously contemplate the results of his actions. The other guy, the FBI guy simply claimed over and over that my arguments were rubbish and we didn't part company as friends.

In my previous employments I have had contact with many FBI, CIA and a few DEA. They are all different breeds. CIA has little or no sense of humor and an inability to see themselves(except for that one spoke to - but I am sure he went back to his office and was set straight in short order. FBI are usually insightful and actually have an ability to laugh at themselves (save the guy at the church) - DEA remind me of the seventh day adventists who knock on your door with bible in hand looking to convert (I am never sure which) either you or themselves - to their faith. And that is the trouble with Fed interdiction people - they operate not on the basis of the law (as they have no respect for the law, they simply "hate" lawbreakers", they are rabid evangelicals who see it as their holy mission to "eradicate" this scourge. They see the world as filled with the good guys "them", the civilians (everyone who gets in their way or . . votes, and the "bad guys", who are always, always always - completely bad, they can have no redeaming qualities whatsoever and they will use any situation to enhance their "religion". If they give up quietly they are pussies, if they put up a fight they are clearly uncoperative and so are indeed the bad guys, if they have weapons that is even more proof, even though they are all armed to the teeth. And woe to any "bad guy" who wears personal armor. Worse to me is the way they strut around after even the mearest "bust". They find a fucking SEED and they parade it around as though they had just taken down a 6 point buck.

And of course you see the pictures of the neatly stacked bags of this drug or that behind them, then the well laid out weapons they found on the premisis and finally the stacks of cash. All of which will go into their own coffers.


They point to the pollution in the woods as evidence of the bad guys when they know full well that the growers cannot properly dump their leavings as that is usually a direct trail to their proceedings in the woods in the first place. In short they force these folks into doing what they later claim to distain.

I don't wish pain upon anyone but I come closest when I speak to a DEA guy and he is unable to differenciate beteen a cancer victim in need of opiates and a doper on the street using diverted dilaudid. They would (and attempt at all times) rather simply stop all pharma from making any useful chemicals if those chemicals could in any way make anyone happy.
 
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