We have Abandoned Libya: Not! We still have our Oil; deals. So Bush..
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Antidisestablishmentarian
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So pull all our bases and bring them home(soldiers) but send em to fight in Libya?
Talk out of both sides of your mouth much?
Let Libya handle their own business.
Talk out of both sides of your mouth much?
Let Libya handle their own business.
Ernst
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I Vote : Dis qualifier. Ambiguity of subject!
Possible Dis-Information? "So pull all our bases and bring them home(soldiers) but send em to fight in Libya? "
CheebaNinja
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i'm trying to figure out why bush's name was mentioned, he hasnt been president for some time now.
are we still beating on the "lets blame bush for everything" drum? cuz that got real old not long after he left office.
at some point you have to stop scapegoating people you hate and face up to reality.
truth is any oil we get from libya is a small fraction of what we import so even if we lost all oil from libya it wouldnt effect us. please stop acting like a drama queen.
are we still beating on the "lets blame bush for everything" drum? cuz that got real old not long after he left office.
at some point you have to stop scapegoating people you hate and face up to reality.
truth is any oil we get from libya is a small fraction of what we import so even if we lost all oil from libya it wouldnt effect us. please stop acting like a drama queen.
secretweapon
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Nothing personal cheeba, Bush Fucked us very hard. The repercussions of their deregulation are being felt in our economy now. Not to mention the ongoing war. Also look at the increase of privatize prisons during when he was in office. It went from around twenty to around 300! Three hundred and that number is still rising. The number of outsourced military mercenaries was the largest ever in our country under bush. Weapons of mass destruction? Where are the wmd's? What about the waterboarding, torture we have to the prisoners of war?
Yes I agree, we have deals with Libya over oil, this sounds like bush era Shit.
Rob Roy
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Bush fucked us hard = correct. Every President that went along with Imperial Adventures = fucked us hard. It's been a gangbang and now Obama is the one pumping away. The scene ends the same way...he pulls it out and fires it all over freedom's face. Everything is there but the cheesy porno music.
wyteberrywidow
Global
Thank you
CheebaNinja
Member
yeah but a lot of people want to think obama isnt doing the same thing even though he is. just another politician that suckered the people into buying what he was selling and they bought it by the metric ton.
SCARHOLE
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Chad Sexington
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I thought Libyan oil mostly (if not all) went to Europe?
newatit2010
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When the rebels are beat down to nothing the US will let gaddaffi rule.
Antidisestablishmentarian
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Dis information? Ambiguity? Stop being obtuse. You know exactly what I mean.
undertheice
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the partisan mind is a bizarre thing, it follows a twisted path that only passes for logic in the broadest sense of the term. if we enter the fray, it's an imperialist move designed to further oil interests. if we don't intervene, it is once again a matter of oil interests. of course the name bush must be thrown in there to avoid soiling the liberal brand.
Ernst
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I watched the interviews on News Hour ( PBS ) and what I came away with was that we favor Ka-Daffy because we don't know what we will get.
That would be Thursday Mar. 10 2010 News Hour on the PBS web site.
And it is true that we are not the sole power to decide this.. The Arabs are dicking around the issue with some in favor of letting Ka-Daffy kill everyone.
I really liked that these folks are waking up in the Middle East. Many have been isolated so long that just now with access to the Internet they are seeing different possibilities for their cultures and themselves.
Isn't this what we have wanted from our trillions of dollars we have spent?
Also I am in the dramatic mood over these past few days but it's not permanent.
That would be Thursday Mar. 10 2010 News Hour on the PBS web site.
And it is true that we are not the sole power to decide this.. The Arabs are dicking around the issue with some in favor of letting Ka-Daffy kill everyone.
I really liked that these folks are waking up in the Middle East. Many have been isolated so long that just now with access to the Internet they are seeing different possibilities for their cultures and themselves.
Isn't this what we have wanted from our trillions of dollars we have spent?
Also I am in the dramatic mood over these past few days but it's not permanent.
Rob Roy
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Ernst, I agree it's good the internet exists and people are clamoring for freedom...concerning the trillions spent, it would have been better if we had stayed out of the Middle East entirely. Alot of people died that didn't have to. Also I'm not so sure the biggest prison country in the world, the USA can lay any claim to "bringing freedom" anywhere.
Ernst
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Rob I don't see the USA even able to save itself with the policies we are still supporting.
Now if the goal is to host and protect a plutocracy then yes the policies are correct in my opinion.
Democracy is a tool we sometime use but we also complained and banned the word "Freedom" from being used at the U.N. so we are seriously narrow in what we express as a World Power in my opinion.
Now if the goal is to host and protect a plutocracy then yes the policies are correct in my opinion.
Democracy is a tool we sometime use but we also complained and banned the word "Freedom" from being used at the U.N. so we are seriously narrow in what we express as a World Power in my opinion.
Ernst
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As far as I know it was on the Bush I watch that we went into Kuwait? That was a war where Kuwait promised Iraq that if they fight Iran for them that Iraq could build a pipeline across Kuwait so they could pump to a deep sea port.
When Iraq beat Iran Kuwait failed to pay up and was caught side drilling and pumping Iraq oil ( side drilling was an American Technology ) So Iraq went in and burned all those oil rigs and the Bush policy of enforcing the decisions as to what that region will or will not do became our financial burden.
In this way yes it's Bush-ist.
Do you know that Saudi Arabia is the only Nation that has a Secret Service detachment provided by the USA for their people in the USA? Go near the Saudi American embassy and see for yourself.
We are far more than invested we are inbred with those very anti-freedom powers of the world.
So on the context of our current foreign policy of bullets over diplomacy it's reasonable to reference "Bush" I and II as well as, dare I say it, Obama for the effects of our current foreign policy .
George Washington warned us of Standing Armies.
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That Congress has never actually declared war on the region nor has Obama and that we are in Nations like Pakistan without actually being at war I think is a third amendment issue.
If I am reading that correctly then the Patriot act post 911 establishes the law by which a perpetual police action is legal. also to Note that Guantánamo Bay is being used because that sort of detainment is also against our Constitution so we have had to export that to Cuba in order to avoid our laws.
In fact without 911 I seriously doubt such laws could have been passed.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/Osama_bin_Laden_portrait.jpg
So it's a circle game now.. We will never catch all the terrorists and we are not able to find Osama Bin Laden (سامة بن محمد بن عوض بن لادن ). By the way the only people allowed to fly right after 911 were the Bin Laden family and permission for them to do so came from high up in the Bush II administration I understand.
The Bin Laden Family are close friends with the Bush Family I understand and Osama is CIA trained as well.