wavy seedlings dwc

youngbuzz101

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Hey y'all!

I failed at my soil grow miserably and had admitted defeat it was a three month plant that was 4 inches tall hahaha.. Anyways I decided to go back to DWC because I find it easier to monitor the growth.

That being said, I have a ten and eight day old pair of seedlings (bag seed). They are growing vigorously and remain green and robust looking already they have bigger fan leaves than my three month old nightmare.

My issue is that my leaves are looking wavy and almost rippled, there are also minor taco or canoe effect on the leaves as well as purple stems. With all these issues it does not seem to effect the rate of growth of my plants from ten days since germination I think they are the fastest I have grown out.

I'm using a 5 gallon resivour with 2 gallons of solution.
Nutrients is 2 part jungle juice.
Ppm has been slowly tapering upward started at 200 and now is at 500ppm this is with tap water included ( 160ppm).
Average temperature is 72 - 80.
Water temp 74f
There air pumps (two dual output one singular) 5 air stones.
2 tsp h2O2.
Humidity 45-55%.
For air flow I have 3 PC cooling fans. And one rotary fan with adjustable settings good air movement in the closet.
Lights started seedlings on a 180w led 8 band 12" from seedlings until the third set of true leaves and then I just recently changed over to a 300w 9 band led 5" from the plants. I have been changing my resivour every seven days.
My pH is less of a science I am using pH strip paper and I believe it stays about 5.5 but it could be higher or lower. I find it difficult to be certain on my pH identification.
The leaves have been wavy since the first leaves besides the cotlydons and I would be greatful if I could get someones opinion I will upload a picture shortly I am ony cell at the moment.

Thank you,
Youngbuzz101
 

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youngbuzz101

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Thanks for the reply, lowryder love. If I had read this response yesterday I would have been relieved and thanked you for your input. Although I still thank you for your input as of today I would have to disagree with you. I am seeing minor yellowing between the veins of the leaves, but the veins themselves look fine in between the "webbing" there is yellowing as well as a general fade of green on the leaves. Which is weird because I just upp'd my ppm's by 200 to 510ppm. I weened my solution up to the manufacturers recommendation. But now I am loosing color so I flushed my solution and dropped my ppm's back down about a hundred and thirty to 380ppm. I also added 1/2 teaspoon Epsom salt to my two gal. solution (in a 5 gal. res.). I am going to post an image outside of my led closet because the color is distorted with all the pink purple hue. They are just about at two weeks from seed. With the change of light it is easy to see there is an underlying issue. I don't know if it is cal, mag, or Ph. I figured from my tap water alone I should be getting some cal as well as in the jungle juice I am using I would hope! The magnesium would be in both as well but seeing as I had some Epsom salt from a previous grow I added a mild amount to see if it helps. My ph has been more to the acidic side (5.2 -5.5 approx.) as im using ph strips its hard to pin point exact ph and I usually put it on the low side as the PH rises through out the day.


Tell me what you think,
Youngbuzz101
 

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Up your nutes your ppm are low. Most cloning solutions are about 700 ppm when mixed with base water of 10 ppm. The one on the left appears as if a minor deficiency is present. The leaves are yellowing from the outside in and they are slightly beginning to curl up. Also I recommend replacing H2O2 with SM-90 or Zone.
 

youngbuzz101

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Thank you man, i will increase the nutes if that is what you suggest. My only issue is that my plants are only two weeks old I always thought that you do not use nutrients until the third week i thought i was pushing it to hard to begin with. What ppm would you consider me raise it to for a 2 week old putting into consideration that my tap water is already 160ppm
 

youngbuzz101

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I did what you said and upped my tds from 380ppm to 560ppm but its definitely worse. Or the plants just havent responded yet because the plants have developed yellowing on the edges and it looks like necrosis. The leaves feel like paper and one leaf actually ripped while i was feeling the texture thats how brittle its become.
 

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youngbuzz101

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I would really appreciate if someone could help me. This is my last grow and I think it might not even happen. I promised the gf that all i wanted was to do it one last time and I will get rid of all my grow shit and i feel like i'm in for a disaster I just need someone to take 5 minutes to give me there best consistence and get me headed in the right direction. These problems im seeing do you think its a result of an immediate change or from something I did last week these problems have been visible for maybe the last three days all last week I had my ppms around 300 and now that im "guessing" deficiency i have raised my tds to 560 is this too much where would you set your plants at on week 2 dwc?

someone?
 
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