Water Temps=important Summer=warm

yea the bucket is a square dwc or the water coolers would be a great idea. Does anyone know any ways to cool it or if i could get a small water cooler that is for small aquariums? I need to hurry as my first tap root just reached the water and it is already turning an off white because the water is about 79F

i've seen some of the square water coolers from powerade. not sure if it would fit though. it might be possible to still transplant to the round setup if u have to. don't be scared to try to transplant, there's nothing worse than the feeling of pulling out the brown roots and watching stuff go down hill fast. good luck

wouldn't to cold be bad? I was thinking about it last night. I think water to chilly might stun the root growth. I was thinking about it because I was worried about the floor of my future grow room. I have to come up with a way to insulate my floor from the cold winter. I remembered a video I saw once where they use those styrofoam sheets to keep soil pots off the cold ground.

I'm telling you, the Sub Culture from GH works wonders. It will keep the root rot at bay by eliminating the bacteria as it grows.

If the bacteria can never form a colony, they cannot reproduce and attack your roots.

bongrippinbob said:

I'm telling you, the Sub Culture from GH works wonders. It will keep the root rot at bay by eliminating the bacteria as it grows.

If the bacteria can never form a colony, they cannot reproduce and attack your roots.

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haha I believed you the first time. Its on the way. Im also gonna give hygrozyme a shot. Thank you for the tip. what you are saying makes complete sense. how much do u mix per gallon? i know it is a dry mix so does it need to be weighed? thanks for your help bob

It says you can use up to one "pouch" per five gallons I believe. I mix it at like 1/2 tsp per gallon.

Because it is not nutrients, it is not going to burn your plants. With the fact that you can use an entire pouch (I'm not sure how much is in each one), makes me think it won't hurt if you used even more than the 1/2tsp.

YaK said:

I tried... it didnt work. The temperature of the water just melts the ice in the block, faster than the little freezer can maintain the temperature.

The only other thing I havent tried, is to fill the rest of the freezer with 2 litre bottles of frozen water, to help keep the ice with the coiled tubes in it "frozen" but I'm pretty frustrated at this point as to the results.

guess I'm going to have to buy 3 chillers. fuck me.

anyone got some at a bargain price?
pm me!

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Ya...check craigslist....A lot of people sell aquarium chillers for real cheap and they work perfect for up tp 50 gallon res...They are 1/10hp

the styrofoam sheets for the floor should help buffer the cold. yes too cold is bad. my coolers help me even when it does get cold because they buffer any temp swings. temp diff is good for the plants but not the roots. things should stay pretty constant there.

Bigtimeblazin said:

Temp diff is good for the plants, but not the roots. Things should stay pretty constant there.

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Amen brother.
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soo what would you say is a good way to cool down a stand alone dwc? I cant take a frozen 20oz in and out without damaging the roots and i dont know what to do. There has to be someone out there who has had heat issues with a stand alone

Try the subculture and let us know.

Add more air if you can afford it.

Blow air onto the surface of your rez,
and the evaporation will drop the temp,
but you may need to add water often
and watch that the tds does not skyrocket.

Buy a window air conditioner
and rig it so that it blows on the walls of the rez.
Check craigs list for used A/C units about $75-100

Keep the room at 64-66º F
in the winter.

Earl said:

Try the subculture and let us know.

Add more air if you can afford it.

Blow air onto the surface of your rez,
and the evaporation will drop the temp,
but you may need to add water often
and watch that the tds does not skyrocket.

Buy a window air conditioner
and rig it so that it blows on the walls of the rez.
Check craigs list for used A/C units about $75-100

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cooling your res by evaporation can lower the water temp by as much as 10f, which is good, but you will have to top off the res with fresh water at least once a day. these are all good ideas earl

hydrochron. dude my incoming water temp is 78. putting a frozen jug in there will probably do more damage than good.too inconsistent. those subculture things can work but a lot of them have copper in them which helps sanitize. but it sanitizes everything, even the good guys. a/c is a must and whatever it is set at my h20 temp stays at the lower end of the a/c temp swing. i've done aquaponics with 84 water and phenomanal results. earl, 64-66 h20. that makes me laugh. don't ever see h20 that cold here. haha

Bigtimeblazin said:

i've done aquaponics with 84 water and phenomanal results. earl, 64-66 h20. that makes me laugh. don't ever see h20 that cold here. haha

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Got any pictures.
Are you growing DWC?/Aero? What?

Bigtimeblazin said:

hydrochron. dude my incoming water temp is 78. putting a frozen jug in there will probably do more damage than good.too inconsistent. those subculture things can work but a lot of them have copper in them which helps sanitize. but it sanitizes everything, even the good guys. a/c is a must and whatever it is set at my h20 temp stays at the lower end of the a/c temp swing. i've done aquaponics with 84 water and phenomanal results. earl, 64-66 h20. that makes me laugh. don't ever see h20 that cold here. haha

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cool, thank you very much man. yea i figures that the temp swing from the frozen wter jug might be a bit much. not to mention that it would damage the roots on the way in and out. Im gonna try hygrozyme and subculture and hope for the best. things seem to stay about 78F during the day and about 74F at night. I hope things work out. thanks again man

HydroChron said:

cool, thank you very much man. yea i figures that the temp swing from the frozen wter jug might be a bit much. not to mention that it would damage the roots on the way in and out. Im gonna try hygrozyme and subculture and hope for the best. things seem to stay about 78F during the day and about 74F at night. I hope things work out. thanks again man

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temp swing from a frozen water jug? I cant see that hurting anything, but 84 degree water will eventually give you problems, if he was lucky enough to grow at that water temp with "phenomenal" results, I'm sure that I'm not alone in wanting to see these results, and hear all of the other aspects of his grow.


What are you thanking him for? telling you that you can grow at higher temps? I had to chop twice because of failing to address the water temp problem, I hope that doesnt happen to you.

Here is some stuff about higher temps in the res.

Co2/Temp experiment - Cannabis Culture Forums

Raising the Temperature Bar - Cannabis Culture Forums

YaK said:

temp swing from a frozen water jug? I cant see that hurting anything, but 84 degree water will eventually give you problems, if he was lucky enough to grow at that water temp with "phenomenal" results, I'm sure that I'm not alone in wanting to see these results, and hear all of the other aspects of his grow.


What are you thanking him for? telling you that you can grow at higher temps? I had to chop twice because of failing to address the water temp problem, I hope that doesnt happen to you.

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k......... well i have been told that you want consistency and it seem to me that taking in and out a frozen water jug would make it get cooler for a short amount of time and them rise again so i would assume that would cause damage. not to mention i am using a self containing bucket system, so i would have to put the frozen jug right next to or on the roots as they grow. but again i could be wrong thats why i asked and thats why i thanked him because he had advice. whether good or bad he tried to help me. Thank you for making sure that i completely understand that if temps dont go down im fuct. appreciate it

I use GH Sub Culture in my nute solution to keep the rot away, and I have never had a problem running my temps that high. And with the sub culture, it allows you to run higher temps with out root root because it will destroy the bad bacteria before it can create a colony and cause you troubles.

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Co2/Temp experiment - Cannabis Culture Forums

I think the problem everyone is missing is that the good bacteria has to take hold on the system first, before it can destroy the bad bacteria. it doesn't work like H2O2, you can't just dump it in and expect it to work right away. I wonder what the directions on the bottle say to do? the bad bacteria can probably take hold on the system faster then the good can, so they just end up killing off the good and you end up with the problems.