Water...has a Memory??? WTF!?!?!

vostok

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its worse Heckler! ...Water, I was told recently, came form outta space, invaded plant earth, the first real alien ..then they told me its in my beer even vodka ...UGH!
then they told me rich folks in new york like to sit in it every day ....Yewwwwww! real fucked world man
 

Dr.Pecker

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Yes. I doubt Chadni was the originator as there are hieroglyphs of cymatics patterns from the ancients. Everything is spinning and vibrating and forms shapes based off their resonant frequencies. We can't very well run from the earths frequency of 7.86-8hz. How you think the pyramids were built? Slaves?
Are you talking about moving large objects with sound?
 

Dr.Pecker

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its worse Heckler! ...Water, I was told recently, came form outta space, invaded plant earth, the first real alien ..then they told me its in my beer even vodka ...UGH!
then they told me rich folks in new york like to sit in it every day ....Yewwwwww! real fucked world man
You are talking to smart people.
 

Doer

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its worse Heckler! ...Water, I was told recently, came form outta space, invaded plant earth, the first real alien ..then they told me its in my beer even vodka ...UGH!
then they told me rich folks in new york like to sit in it every day ....Yewwwwww! real fucked world man
Then this must mean water is everywhere. And everywhere there is alcohol, there may be water present.

SCIENTISTS TAP INTO CLOUDS OF PURE ALCOHOL IN OUTER SPACE
http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/beercld.htm


COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Using data collected by researchers at Ohio State University, astronomers have found vast quantities of pure alcohol in an interstellar cloud some 10,000 light years from Earth.

Scientists said the cloud, located near the constellation Aquila, contains enough alcohol to make 400 trillion trillion pints of beer.

The discovery was made during a study of how stars begin. Stars form from interstellar clouds, large conglomerations of gases and dust particles which can extend hundreds of light years across. Scientists have known for some time that the largest component of these clouds is hydrogen, but until now, they were not sure if ethyl alcohol molecules were also an ingredient.

"Over the course of the last 25 years or so, a number of molecules have been observed in space and scientists identify them by studying the frequencies of radiation they emit," said Eric Herbst, a professor of physics and astronomy at Ohio State. Herbst and Frank De Lucia, professor and chair of the physics department, authored a study on the specific radio frequencies of ethyl alcohol.
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So, therefore, there must be a pretzel cloud out there somewhere.
 
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Doer

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Fuck it, then...
Let's just build quantum computers out of water.

But seriously, if this effect is true (I'm not buying it yet), then it implies there is some quasi-Bose-Einstein Condensate effect going on. That's the only thing I know of that can "hold" light, but even then it only slows it down (to molasses speed).
From a different perspective, how would a hologram work in this case? I'm pretty sure Leonard Susskind could come up with a hypothesis.


If you can grasp the Suskind Holographic Principle....let me know OK? :)
 

tyler.durden

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Water holds memory. It is a beautiful thing how water is able2 expresses itself. Check out these videos and the art of water crystalization:


On that speaker and sand vibration. At frequencies it makes shapes and that is how we are held 2gether. All the vibrating particles. Vibrating frequencies can create and destroy. Ever see the hexagon on Saturn? Speed and vibrations.
This is pseudo-science - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masaru_Emoto


Scientific criticism
Commentators have criticized Emoto for insufficient experimental controls and for not sharing enough details of his approach with the scientific community.[7][13][14] William A. Tiller, another researcher featured in the documentary What The Bleep Do We Know?, states that Emoto's experiments fall short of proof, since they do not control for other factors in the supercooling of water.[15] In addition, Emoto has been criticized for designing his experiments in ways that leave them prone to manipulation or human error influencing the findings.[7][9][16] Biochemist and Director of Microscopy at University College Cork William Reville wrote, "It is very unlikely that there is any reality behind Emoto's claims."[7] Reville noted the lack of scientific publication and pointed out that anyone who could demonstrate such a phenomenon would become immediately famous and probably wealthy.[7]

Writing about Emoto's theory in the Skeptical Inquirer, physician Harriet A. Hall concluded that it was "hard to see how anyone could mistake it for science".[2] Commenting on Emoto's ideas about clearing water polluted by algae, biologist Tyler Volk stated, "What he is saying has nothing to do with science as I know it."[1] Stephen Kiesling wrote in Spirituality & Health Magazine, "Perhaps Emoto is an evangelist who values the message of his images more than the particulars of science; nevertheless, this spiritual teacher might focus his future practice less on gratitude and more on honesty."[9]

Emoto was personally invited to take the One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge by James Randi in 2003, and would have received US$1,000,000 if he had been able to reproduce the experiment under test conditions agreed to by both parties. He has not participated and the prize money is still offered.[17][18]

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I have discovered that when I play Handel's Messiah next to my water filled petri dish, individual water molecules sing in harmony and resemble microscopic smiley-faces. Too busy to submit for peer review this year, but please buy my book...

 
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heckler73

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If you can grasp the Suskind Holographic Principle....let me know OK? :)
:lol: I'm still working on comprehending tunelling, potential wells, ladder operators and Hermitian conjugates.
I don't think Susskind's Holographic Principle is even complete, never mind accessible to my brand of dumb.
But maybe I'll give it another try later, after a few doobs :lol:
 

heckler73

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If you can grasp the Suskind Holographic Principle....let me know OK? :)
Okay...I had a few and listened to Susskind--with others--discuss the basic elements of the principle.
Mathematically speaking, it seems to be a form of conformal mapping. I guess they are trying to reduce our 3D+t world into a 2D+t sheet of "bits" at the edges of the cosmos (cf. Riemann Surfaces).

Voxels into pixels, essentially, with a pixel area of 10^-66 cm^2


Gravity and Quantum Mechanics is where the missing link is, according to them.

As for the Black Hole stuff, I have no opinion. I still question the geometry of them...why spheres? Why singularities?

(goto 41:30 if it doesn't automatically)

 

Heisenberg

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"Emoto’s popularity is a sad commentary on the scientific illiteracy of our society. His work is a morass of factual errors, misconceptions, misinterpretations, metaphors, and meaningless assertions. He writes in the language of magical thinking and superstition, not of science.

A real scientist would have checked to see if he got the same results if he didn’t know beforehand which water was clean. Emoto never bothered with even this most elementary double-check. He didn’t consult real scientists. Had he done so, they could have told him that these snowflake crystals, just like raindrops, form around a core of dust, so actually the cleaner water is less likely to form them. Their beauty varies with the temperature and conditions of formation, not with the purity of the water. The idea that snowflakes could show anything about differences in the “molecular structure” of water is incompatible with basic physics."

http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/1144934/masaru_emotos_wonderful_world_of_water/#wTbxuAvxG5jMQxVk.99
 

perry420

Active Member
"Emoto’s popularity is a sad commentary on the scientific illiteracy of our society. His work is a morass of factual errors, misconceptions, misinterpretations, metaphors, and meaningless assertions. He writes in the language of magical thinking and superstition, not of science.

A real scientist would have checked to see if he got the same results if he didn’t know beforehand which water was clean. Emoto never bothered with even this most elementary double-check. He didn’t consult real scientists. Had he done so, they could have told him that these snowflake crystals, just like raindrops, form around a core of dust, so actually the cleaner water is less likely to form them. Their beauty varies with the temperature and conditions of formation, not with the purity of the water. The idea that snowflakes could show anything about differences in the “molecular structure” of water is incompatible with basic physics."

http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/1144934/masaru_emotos_wonderful_world_of_water/#wTbxuAvxG5jMQxVk.99
I'd have to say word.
 

Nullis

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This is BS. It's the quackery/hoax they came up with to lend merit to homeopathy.

The initial 'theory' (by whom I forget) was that drugs/toxins, which at higher doses cause disease, must at trace amounts cure diseases which cause similar symptoms.

Homeopathic 'medicines' therefore arise from various 'substances' (e.g. from poison ivy, datura stranomium) which have been serially diluted to such an extent that the end solution couldn't possibly contain very many molecules (if any) of the starting material.

When wiser minds pondered how these 'medicines' could be effective and posited that question, the quacks who stood to loose financially came up with: "water has a memory". They performed some BS 'experiment' to prove this, results of which were questionable and never replicated.
 
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Silky Shagsalot

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i read somewhere about a water experiment. someone cursed and said bad things to a small amount of water. then blessed and spoke kindly to some water. apparently, when frozen, the blessed water had beautiful crystal shapes, and the cursed water didn't and was deformed. off topic, lol...
 
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