Was Thinking What Country Will USA Invade Next?

DrFever

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In my opinion honestly Usa is like the roman empire and look at them they fell biggest mistake america did was show there power your hands delt havn't you always wondered what the quiet guy is doin thats the person you got to be watching in a bar or anywhere all i can say is even the war of independance usa fought along side the french there really in history isnt a war usa has one on there own EVER i find they pick there fights selectivly didn't I here Bush said that they would invade any country harbouring binladen so tell me this why didny usa enter pakistan :))




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beardo

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id say syria. i really wish we would do something about N korea. the shit that goes on there is unbelievable, but nobody ever really talks about them because the country doesnt do much with the outside world. we could take them out pretty easily. S korea is our ally, so if we had that border with the north and navy destroyers around the country, we would win. if we wait too long to do this, we will have to deal with a serious nuclear threat, because iran gives them shit. however, i would try to wait until kim jong il dies, and his son takes over. his son is probably too inexperienced to win a war against us.
They do not mess with N Korea because we Could Not take them out and will not try it. That is why we have never been able to defeat them in the war.
 

Dan Kone

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dan i beg to differ like us's superior force against vietnamese ???? who one that war anyways ???? pakistan , and india have Nukes as well and also there was a time when having carriers ment you could take a war to a country but things have changed big time since for instance american patriot missile Failure might of hit 1 out of 10 scuds in reality really was a embarressment to usa

Russia has 17,900 nukes usa has only 7900 nukes ok russia couldnt compete with americans building ship for ship so they decided instead of lets get into the cruise missiles and let me tell you M8 the brahmos cruise missile which india / pakistan and other countrys have via russia selling is far superior then any usa build cruise missile i mean dead bullseye hits at over mach 3
so now usa is limeited to ocean space being they cant stop them by the time a ship caught it its to late :)) and also i might add theres no plans to combat this situation for another 10 yrs being usa has no money 2
As I said earlier in this thread, in a heads up war against Pakistan right now, we'd lose that fight. However the US army in addition to the Indian army would be a vastly superior force. (India's ground assault capabilities combined with our air power).

Militarily one of our biggest problems in Vietnam was that our army was being prepared for a WW2 style war against Russia, not fighting Guerrilla forces in the jungles of Vietnam. The Indian army (and our own to a lesser extent), is geared for exactly that against Pakistan. The combined forces of our two armies would be an overwhelming force.

The real fighting would be guerrilla mountain fighting + urban insurgency. That would likely last for a very long time. But the military hardware of the Pakistani army would be absolutely overwhelmed by the combined armies of the US and India. It would however likely result in a nuclear war. Bad plan.
 

beardo

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We really shouldn't go around just starting wars because we don't like how some other sovereign nation does things..
That is only a pretext
It is because we have the largest military and if your paying for it and have the people and weapons you need to be using them to justify continued contracts and budget increases.
 

Dan Kone

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With all this talk of war how many of you have actually served ?????
Not me. Not now, not in the past, and not in the future. Our military is consistently misused by the executive branch of our government and for that reason I could never be a part of it. Our military is supposed to be a defensive force, not an offensive tool to get want we want all over the world.

No thanks on that.
 

Dan Kone

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That is only a pretext
It is because we have the largest military and if your paying for it and have the people and weapons you need to be using them to justify continued contracts and budget increases.
exactly correct.
 

londonfog

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Not me. Not now, not in the past, and not in the future. Our military is consistently misused by the executive branch of our government and for that reason I could never be a part of it. Our military is supposed to be a defensive force, not an offensive tool to get want we want all over the world.

No thanks on that.
was just curious how everyone is saying lets invade this or that...I know most men/women who has been in war understand how important it is for peace..
 

Dan Kone

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was just curious how everyone is saying lets invade this or that...I know most men/women who has been in war understand how important it is for peace..
The only time we should go to war is in situations where there is an actual threat to US sovereignty. IMO that does not include any of the wars we've been in since ww2. The cuban missle crisis potentially could have fallen into that category as well if things went differently. If military action would have become necessary there it would have been justifiable.

Nothing happening in the middle east threatens our sovereignty. I can see certain situations where air strikes might have been justifiable, but not actually putting boots on the ground. We've lost our way when it comes to use of force around the world.
 

sync0s

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They do not mess with N Korea because we Could Not take them out and will not try it. That is why we have never been able to defeat them in the war.
Are you kidding? Their weak, underfed "million man army" is a joke. They are protected by the Chinese, and they have nuclear weapons.
 

beardo

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Are you kidding? Their weak, underfed "million man army" is a joke. They are protected by the Chinese, and they have nuclear weapons.
And their you have it, we haven't been able to beat them because they have so many people and their backed by China, now their Nuclear and still backed by China and our resolve-willingness to accept casuilties is much lower than it was when the war started after WWII since vietnam the U.S. public has been very much unwilling to put up with those large numbers of dead soliders and thats what it would take to go up against N, K , they openly threaten to nuke us and we are at war and do not respond, I fear it is only a matter of time untill someone starts saying you have to pay us XXX amount a year or else.
 

sync0s

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And their you have it, we haven't been able to beat them because they have so many people and their backed by China, now their Nuclear and still backed by China and our resolve-willingness to accept casuilties is much lower than it was when the war started after WWII since vietnam the U.S. public has been very much unwilling to put up with those large numbers of dead soliders and thats what it would take to go up against N, K , they openly threaten to nuke us and we are at war and do not respond, I fear it is only a matter of time untill someone starts saying you have to pay us XXX amount a year or else.
Actually, I put quotes around the million man army because nobody believes they have it. We don't meddle with NK because we want good diplomatic relations with China. China is afraid that if NK feels they were back stabbed by the chinese they will be hit with their nuclear missiles. Also, they don't have technology to send any missiles to America, and it will be a long time before they do.

Truth is, North Koreans are starving, sheltered people. There is evidence that the NK sends any citizen who opposes them to work (death) camps. Their people would turn on them if they had help.
 

beardo

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Actually, I put quotes around the million man army because nobody believes they have it. We don't meddle with NK because we want good diplomatic relations with China. China is afraid that if NK feels they were back stabbed by the chinese they will be hit with their nuclear missiles. Also, they don't have technology to send any missiles to America, and it will be a long time before they do.

Truth is, North Koreans are starving, sheltered people. There is evidence that the NK sends any citizen who opposes them to work (death) camps. Their people would turn on them if they had help.
Maybe we should start to do an Air Campaign and then send in ground troops-they will greet us as liberators, it should be a war of days.
 

DrFever

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As I said earlier in this thread, in a heads up war against Pakistan right now, we'd lose that fight. However the US army in addition to the Indian army would be a vastly superior force. (India's ground assault capabilities combined with our air power).

Militarily one of our biggest problems in Vietnam was that our army was being prepared for a WW2 style war against Russia, not fighting Guerrilla forces in the jungles of Vietnam. The Indian army (and our own to a lesser extent), is geared for exactly that against Pakistan. The combined forces of our two armies would be an overwhelming force.

The real fighting would be guerrilla mountain fighting + urban insurgency. That would likely last for a very long time. But the military hardware of the Pakistani army would be absolutely overwhelmed by the combined armies of the US and India. It would however likely result in a nuclear war. Bad plan.
Dan cmon think about it for a second ok are you winning the war In IraQ hahahaa actually thats antoher waste of tax payors money you lost that war 2 as for world war 2 omfngod americans stood by as there allies got tumbled france was tooken over must i add usa stood by :)) what i find so fckin halarious is usa didnt land nott no one troop in europe until russia and england had germany on the run
its said fact if germany took it to usa you be speaking german today only reason you went to war is when japan attacked pearl harbour churchhill litterally begged usa for help and even stalin as they were getting there ass kicked
but it was election year huh lmaooooooooooo just remember at that time russia and usa were allies and you fckt them 2 pretty sad really when you suppose to have a allie and they stand there watchin you get your ass kicked just go look at your statue of liberty :))
 

DrFever

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hey Dan even when usa attacked canada look not to many people really know this

That was 194 years back. On August 24, 1814, the British troops, under the command of General Robert Ross, set fire to ‘The White House’, in Washington DC. The main structure was completely gutted, only the exterior walls remained. Most of the exterior had to be torn down and reconstructed because of the weakening from the fire. The White house was absolutely ransacked by the British troops and all the articles removed. The First Lady, Dolley Madison was able to save the famous painting of George Washington. White paint was used to mask the damage.
The attack was in retaliation to the US invasion of York, Upper Canada (Toronto, Ontario and Canada), at the Battle of York in 1813, in which US forces looted and burned the city, including the Parliament Buildings of Upper Canada. The War of 1812 lasted till 1815, although a peace treaty was signed on December 24, 1814. The war was fought between the United States of America and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. The reason for the war was a tacit support of the US to French trade interests. Britain imposed a series of trade restrictions that the US contested as illegal under the International Law. The Americans declared war on Britain on June 18, 1812. During the war 1,600 British and 2,260 American soldiers died.
The White House is the official residence and main office of the President of the United States of America. The first occupant of The White House was, the Second President of the United States, John Adams. The construction of the White House began with the laying of the foundation stone on October 13, 1792. The architect of the White House, James Hoban, was chosen in a competition. George Washington (the first president), approved the site of the construction, in the new federal city, on July 16, 1792. Although not yet completed, the White House was ready for occupancy on November 1, 1800. John Adams lived in the house only for a few months.
Thomas Jefferson (third president) moved into the White House in 1801 and expanded the building with the help of architect, Benjamin Henry Latrobe. They created two colonnades to hide the stables and storage. Jefferson also directed the planting of numerous trees between 1802 and 1806

you know why the peace traty was signed ?? cause britan brought there big ships and usa would of burnt to the ground
 

DrFever

New Member
you know peeps thats why JFK was assaninated cause prior to his presidency usa made money fighting wars start a war an our factorys are up and running :P)) jfk realized this isnt goin to make usa and what he got shot
Dan thinks that sending bunch of 18 yr old kids to war is superior dan let me tell you usa is looking to get there ass kicked ffs pick a fight with china n see how you get handled

usa has never fought a war on there own EVER google it
 

DrFever

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During the first World War when Germany was retreating from the countries it had occupied, USA entered the war in the final months and helped chase the Germans back to Germany. (yee ha)

In World War 2 - the Americans watched from a distance as their Jewish friends were being slaughtered by the thousand. (make that million) They watched as Britain fought for it's very existence in the Battle of Britain. Only after some prompting from Japan did USA enter the war - but would not commit ground troops.
Once Russia had engaged the Germans for three years and pushed them back on the defensive did the Americans send troops to Europe when they were certain Russia and Britain had the Germans on the run.

USA did wage the Vietnam war on their own - were chased out by the amateur VC - much like Afghanistan where they can't beat the civilian Taliban after over SEVEN YEARS - who aren't even a proper army.


Only Americans could answer : The Civil War - what a joke.


The Americans are quite good at killing each other in wars - - blue on blue incidents. The British Army were given specific training on how to avoid being shot by trigger happy yanks during Gulf War 1. Despite that - many Brits were killed by Americans in 'friendly fire' incidents. The US Air Force is just as bad. They killed many of their own by mistake - but it doesn't get reported much.

so thats your superior Dan huh bet you cant wait for a real fight maybe this time your allies will stand by and clean up your act
 
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