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JamieThePainter

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144 Ukraine Fighters Freed from Russian Captivity in Prisoner Exchange
The Ukrainian Defense Ministry announced on Wednesday that 144 of the country’s fighters were freed from Russian captivity via “an exchange mechanism” and that nearly 100 of the freed fighters had participated in the defense of the Ukrainian coastal city of Mariupol.

Earlier, a leading Ukrainian parliamentarian told VOA that Kyiv and Moscow were undergoing a process of prisoner exchange and that Roman Abramovich, a Russian businessman with ties to Putin, was playing “an active role” in the talks.

Hours later, in his nightly address to the nation, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy called the development “optimistic and very important.” Zelenskyy said 59 of the soldiers that returned to Ukraine were members of the National Guard, followed by 30 servicemen with the Navy, 28 who had served in the Army, 17 with Border Guards and 9 who fought as territorial defense soldiers and one had been a policeman.

“The oldest of the liberated is 65 years old, the youngest is 19,” he said in the video broadcast. “In particular,” Zelenskyy added, “95 Azovstal defenders return[ed] home.”

Wednesday’s news came on the heels of an announcement a day earlier that 17 Ukrainians, including 16 servicemen and one civilian, were freed from Russian captivity in an exchange that saw 15 Russians released and that the bodies of 46 fallen Ukrainian soldiers returned home. In return, Ukraine handed Russia 40 of their fallen servicemen. Among the 46 fallen Ukrainian fighters, 21 took part in the defense of Azovstal, according to the Ukrainian government.

Maybe the 144 Russian soldiers should have been left to run away?
144 Ukrainians were released, not Russians, fuck knows what you're reading. lol

Surrender *is* a way out. Obviously you don't understand Sun Tzu and just like arguing.

Well done for playing lol.
 

printer

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I really need to question your sources on that one. Wars are not fought on ammunition alone.
Ukraine hunts for British factories to deliver artillery shells as counter-attack burns through supply

155mm Howitzer rounds are proving hard to source, with thousands used per day 2 September 2022 • 5:12pm

Ukrainian officials are scouring the UK for foundries to make cannon artillery casings as the country burns through thousands per day, The Telegraph understands.

Supplies of the 155mm artillery rounds are proving hard to source given the high specifications, according to people familiar with the search.
The rounds are six inches thick and waist high when standing upright on the ground. They must be capable of withstanding the force of the explosion that fires the projectile from howitzer cannons, which requires precision manufacturing.

BAE Systems makes these rounds for the Ministry of Defence in the UK, which in turn has been sending them to Ukraine as aid. It is understood that BAE has some potential to increase supplies, but Kyiv is hunting for additional companies capable of manufacturing the rounds to ensure continued supply

BAE currently manufactures the shells at its plant in Washington in the north east of England before they are filled with a charge and assembled in Glascoed in Wales. The finished product is X-rayed to make sure there are no faults in the shell.

There is thought to be some capacity to add shifts to production lines to increase supply, although precise figures on capacity and stockpiles are not public information.

The 155mm ammunition is the bread and butter for most Nato howitzers such as US-provided M777s, French Caesars, and German PzH 2000s, all of which have been gifted to Kyiv to aid the fight against Russia.

However, heavy use of these cannons has run down artillery stockpiles in the West. Last week, Pentagon sources told the Wall Street Journal that US stocks of 155mm had become “uncomfortably low” after it shipped 806,000 rounds of it to Ukraine. It can take up to 18 months from order to delivery of the munitions, the newspaper reported.

The Russians also have several years worth of artillery munitions at their disposal, according to a July report from the Royal United Services Institute defence think tank. Russia is firing 20,000 shells per day compared to Ukraine’s 6,000, it said. Moscow's use of drones and radar jamming has made its strikes particularly effective against Ukrainian positions, although Ukraine’s forces have recently adapted by using decoy positions to draw Russian fire.

Ukraine will need a regular, diverse supply of ammunition, the Royal United Services Institute said.

The report said: “One challenge here is that Nato standardisation is not very standardised, with different countries’ howitzers not only having completely different maintenance requirements but also using different charges, fuses and sometimes shells.

“The current approach by which each country donates a battery of guns in a piecemeal way is rapidly turning into a logistical nightmare for Ukrainian forces with each battery requiring a separate training, maintenance and logistics pipeline. Making support to Ukraine sustainable requires the provision of one or two kinds of gun and for countries to step up production of the appropriate ammunition.”
 

printer

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144 Ukrainians were released, not Russians, fuck knows what you're reading. lol

Surrender *is* a way out. Obviously you don't understand Sun Tzu and just like arguing.

Well done for playing lol.
So the Russians just handed over the POW because they were feeling generous? Are you that stupid or just trolling?

Read the headline.

"144 Ukraine Fighters Freed from Russian Captivity in Prisoner Exchange"
 

printer

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Ukraine Announces Prisoner Swap Of 144 Soldiers, Some Captured At Azovstal Steelworks
"This is the largest exchange since the start of the full-scale Russian invasion. Of the 144 freed, 95 are Azovstal defenders. Among them, 43 servicemen of the Azov Regiment," the main intelligence directorate of the Defense Ministry said on June 29 on Telegram.

It did not specify when and where the swap took place or how many Russian prisoners were part of the exchange.

The head of a Russia-backed separatist group in Ukraine’s Donetsk region also reported a prisoner exchange with Kyiv, saying the number of fighters exchanged was 144 on each side.

Denis Pushilin said 144 Russia-backed separatists and Russian soldiers would return home as part of the exchange.

"We handed over to Kyiv the same number of prisoners from Ukrainian armed units. Most of whom were wounded,” Pushilin said on Telegram.
 

printer

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144 Ukrainians were released, not Russians, fuck knows what you're reading. lol

Surrender *is* a way out. Obviously you don't understand Sun Tzu and just like arguing.

Well done for playing lol.
Trying to twist words? Like to argue? How about actually adding to our little sandbox here and help reporting what is happening. Unless you are here just to troll.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Ukraine hunts for British factories to deliver artillery shells as counter-attack burns through supply

155mm Howitzer rounds are proving hard to source, with thousands used per day 2 September 2022 • 5:12pm

Ukrainian officials are scouring the UK for foundries to make cannon artillery casings as the country burns through thousands per day, The Telegraph understands.

Supplies of the 155mm artillery rounds are proving hard to source given the high specifications, according to people familiar with the search.
The rounds are six inches thick and waist high when standing upright on the ground. They must be capable of withstanding the force of the explosion that fires the projectile from howitzer cannons, which requires precision manufacturing.

BAE Systems makes these rounds for the Ministry of Defence in the UK, which in turn has been sending them to Ukraine as aid. It is understood that BAE has some potential to increase supplies, but Kyiv is hunting for additional companies capable of manufacturing the rounds to ensure continued supply

BAE currently manufactures the shells at its plant in Washington in the north east of England before they are filled with a charge and assembled in Glascoed in Wales. The finished product is X-rayed to make sure there are no faults in the shell.

There is thought to be some capacity to add shifts to production lines to increase supply, although precise figures on capacity and stockpiles are not public information.

The 155mm ammunition is the bread and butter for most Nato howitzers such as US-provided M777s, French Caesars, and German PzH 2000s, all of which have been gifted to Kyiv to aid the fight against Russia.

However, heavy use of these cannons has run down artillery stockpiles in the West. Last week, Pentagon sources told the Wall Street Journal that US stocks of 155mm had become “uncomfortably low” after it shipped 806,000 rounds of it to Ukraine. It can take up to 18 months from order to delivery of the munitions, the newspaper reported.

The Russians also have several years worth of artillery munitions at their disposal, according to a July report from the Royal United Services Institute defence think tank. Russia is firing 20,000 shells per day compared to Ukraine’s 6,000, it said. Moscow's use of drones and radar jamming has made its strikes particularly effective against Ukrainian positions, although Ukraine’s forces have recently adapted by using decoy positions to draw Russian fire.

Ukraine will need a regular, diverse supply of ammunition, the Royal United Services Institute said.

The report said: “One challenge here is that Nato standardisation is not very standardised, with different countries’ howitzers not only having completely different maintenance requirements but also using different charges, fuses and sometimes shells.

“The current approach by which each country donates a battery of guns in a piecemeal way is rapidly turning into a logistical nightmare for Ukrainian forces with each battery requiring a separate training, maintenance and logistics pipeline. Making support to Ukraine sustainable requires the provision of one or two kinds of gun and for countries to step up production of the appropriate ammunition.”
I though they were suppose to supply Ukraine with airpower? If the Ukrainians keep rolling up the Russians and they run before seeing them, I dunno how much artillery they are using right now, it is hard to hit a moving target and the Russians are moving out of range faster than they can setup! They are abandoning whole artillery units of guns and plenty of ammo too, those will soon be turned on them, if they are still useable.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Ukraine hunts for British factories to deliver artillery shells as counter-attack burns through supply

155mm Howitzer rounds are proving hard to source, with thousands used per day 2 September 2022 • 5:12pm

Ukrainian officials are scouring the UK for foundries to make cannon artillery casings as the country burns through thousands per day, The Telegraph understands.

Supplies of the 155mm artillery rounds are proving hard to source given the high specifications, according to people familiar with the search.
The rounds are six inches thick and waist high when standing upright on the ground. They must be capable of withstanding the force of the explosion that fires the projectile from howitzer cannons, which requires precision manufacturing.

BAE Systems makes these rounds for the Ministry of Defence in the UK, which in turn has been sending them to Ukraine as aid. It is understood that BAE has some potential to increase supplies, but Kyiv is hunting for additional companies capable of manufacturing the rounds to ensure continued supply

BAE currently manufactures the shells at its plant in Washington in the north east of England before they are filled with a charge and assembled in Glascoed in Wales. The finished product is X-rayed to make sure there are no faults in the shell.

There is thought to be some capacity to add shifts to production lines to increase supply, although precise figures on capacity and stockpiles are not public information.

The 155mm ammunition is the bread and butter for most Nato howitzers such as US-provided M777s, French Caesars, and German PzH 2000s, all of which have been gifted to Kyiv to aid the fight against Russia.

However, heavy use of these cannons has run down artillery stockpiles in the West. Last week, Pentagon sources told the Wall Street Journal that US stocks of 155mm had become “uncomfortably low” after it shipped 806,000 rounds of it to Ukraine. It can take up to 18 months from order to delivery of the munitions, the newspaper reported.

The Russians also have several years worth of artillery munitions at their disposal, according to a July report from the Royal United Services Institute defence think tank. Russia is firing 20,000 shells per day compared to Ukraine’s 6,000, it said. Moscow's use of drones and radar jamming has made its strikes particularly effective against Ukrainian positions, although Ukraine’s forces have recently adapted by using decoy positions to draw Russian fire.

Ukraine will need a regular, diverse supply of ammunition, the Royal United Services Institute said.

The report said: “One challenge here is that Nato standardisation is not very standardised, with different countries’ howitzers not only having completely different maintenance requirements but also using different charges, fuses and sometimes shells.

“The current approach by which each country donates a battery of guns in a piecemeal way is rapidly turning into a logistical nightmare for Ukrainian forces with each battery requiring a separate training, maintenance and logistics pipeline. Making support to Ukraine sustainable requires the provision of one or two kinds of gun and for countries to step up production of the appropriate ammunition.”
We could see a collapse of the Russian army in Ukraine over the next month, depending on how things go in the east and south, how much equipment and how many prisoners the Ukrainians bag. They are cutting their main logistics hubs and chopping them into bite size pieces, some in the south can't escape with their equipment and supplies, so let them swim or take small boats. The Ukrainian's top general is a smart guy by all accounts and is advised by the best with great intelligence. He also has a motivated army that is well organized, trained and equipped with extensive combat experience. I'm sure he will think up something, those Russian generals who aren't dead were fired by Putin, or will soon be dead in the cauldron of Ukraine.
 

printer

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I though they were suppose to supply Ukraine with airpower? If the Ukrainians keep rolling up the Russians and they run before seeing them, I dunno how much artillery they are using right now, it is hard to hit a moving target and the Russians are moving out of range faster than they can setup! They are abandoning whole artillery units of guns and plenty of ammo too, those will soon be turned on them, if they are still useable.
That is only one area. The Ukrainians will not be able to just roll through the rest of Ukraine. If Kherson was falling like the Kharkiv region then no real need for that many shells.

Ukraine to get 70 fighter jets from Poland, Slovakia & Bulgaria
Three NATO countries will deliver more than 70 warplanes for Kiev, Ukrainian Army representatives announced on Tuesday morning

Three NATO countries will deliver more than 70 warplanes for Kiev, Ukrainian Army representatives announced on Tuesday morning.

According to a statement published on Facebook, Poland, Bulgaria and Slovakia will provide over 70 MiG-29 and SU-25 aircraft that can be based at Polish airfields, RT reported.

ixteen MiG-29 planes and 14 SU-25s will be provided by Bulgaria. Poland will send 28 MiG-29 warplanes, and Slovakia can deliver 12 MiG-29 planes, the officials stated.
 

harrychilds

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I'm not saying I believe what I am about to say, but. What if War was designed as a depopulation tool, by pointing guns at each other and killing each other we are essentially killing each other for no reason. And it saves the elite illuminati people the job of killing us them selves? I'm kinda high right now and it was just a random thought that I had :bigjoint:
 

harrychilds

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War is all about fighting each other and killing each other and turning each other against each other, its very sad and worrying, divide and conquer, it's a method that has been used for a long time. We should all be spreading peace and love. Love your self, love each other, peace and love brothers and sisters! :bigjoint:bongsmilie
 

DIY-HP-LED

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War is all about fighting each other and killing each other and turning each other against each other, its very sad and worrying, divide and conquer, it's a method that has been used for a long time. We should all be spreading peace and love. Love your self, love each other, peace and love brothers and sisters! :bigjoint:bongsmilie
A nice sentiment, unfortunately their are psychos and narcists in the world and more often than not they are in charge of nations, sometimes despotically. It takes good will, but sometimes the bastards just want to murder you and your family for no reason other than bigotry. It is best to speak softly and carry a big stick, while remembering that technology and history made us a community of nations and communities have laws and police to enforce them. The global village has rich and poor, just like a real one, the strong and the weak.
 
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