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schuylaar

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I regularly hunt, shotgun is not going to be effective.
Something with night scope will do pretty much like an AK..America has so many but they need military grade night vision.

It just came to me that Elon Musk calling Russia to offer up his peace talk agreement- how much do you want to bet he did that as a way of getting out of his Starlink support to Ukraine that he wanted to drop for a minute when someone had a Come To Jesus, and the next day he changed his mind. Cheap, cheap and cheap + it doesn't look like he bathes.
 

BudmanTX

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Bold enough to let her bangs hang out of the misogyny of hajib..tortured to death by The Morality Police.

The hajib burned on and self mutilation of cutting hair lit the night sky..


Someone got tired.
yep, also been hearing that the girl schools are doing the same, getting rid of the hajib too and staging protests as well
 

Budzbuddha

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Better than scrapping warehouses full of the fuckers. They can provide volume and could be useful for ballistic missiles or even cruise missiles. The cheap drones might be hard to see and a waste, even for an old Hawk.
Munitions are Munitions , regardless of age. They still will outgun vlad’s piece meal inventory.
Germany has found unexploded ordnance from WWII - still capable of destruction. If it goes boom and you can eliminate the enemy - use it.
 

Nope_49595933949

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Please explain. I can hit a clay pigeon at the height the drones are dropping the bombs. The drones are not moving when they drop their bombs. What would you use in the field to combat the drones then?
One video of Ukraine dropping a bomb does not equal every drone encounter with Russian and Ukrainian drones. But OK.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The Russian army is coming apart at the seams, how long before they turn their weapons on those commanding them? If they actually had leaders Vlad would be facing a revolt of some Colonel or another gathering forces executing his corrupt peers and any security police they could find, and then heading for Moscow (not far) with a constantly growing force of the discontented and pissed off.


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DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Munitions are Munitions , regardless of age. They still will outgun vlad’s piece meal inventory.
Germany has found unexploded ordnance from WWII - still capable of destruction. If it goes boom and you can eliminate the enemy - use it.
They've had several upgrades and plenty of the allies use them or did, I wonder how many Sammy has kicking around or did they all get scrapped or sold? How many batteries and missiles can they scrape up? There used to be a lot of them.
 

printer

Well-Known Member
One video of Ukraine dropping a bomb does not equal every drone encounter with Russian and Ukrainian drones. But OK.
I agree. And once a number of them are lost due to shotgun blasts then the drones will remain at a higher altitude. But then dropping the bombs will be less precise. Basically it is a game of cat and mouse, once the enemy finds a way to counter your tactic then you find another way to counter theirs.
 

printer

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Munitions are Munitions , regardless of age. They still will outgun vlad’s piece meal inventory.
Germany has found unexploded ordnance from WWII - still capable of destruction. If it goes boom and you can eliminate the enemy - use it.
As long as the propellant does not change composition over time. If the rate of burn increases more than what the rocket is designed for then you might get a boom rather than a loud whoosh. But they probably monitor or test the rockets to see if they are still functional.
 

Nope_49595933949

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I agree. And once a number of them are lost due to shotgun blasts then the drones will remain at a higher altitude. But then dropping the bombs will be less precise. Basically it is a game of cat and mouse, once the enemy finds a way to counter your tactic then you find another way to counter theirs.
So that video was Ukrainians dropping bombs..... Not the Russians. You know that right?

I'm well aware of how war works and how tactics change, thank you.
 

Budzbuddha

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They've had several upgrades and plenty of the allies use them or did, I wonder how many Sammy has kicking around or did they all get scrapped or sold? How many batteries and missiles can they scrape up? There used to be a lot of them.
Forgot which base I seen them mounted as a entry display. Shit , a little spit and polish / scrawl FUCK PUTIN or SEASON’S GREETING , then send them a fiery death. To the untrained steerage thrown into battle , it will mean little to what systems are aiming at their assholes.

Uncle Sam found them effective some 50 odd years ago - so why not now ?
 

Budzbuddha

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As long as the propellant does not change composition over time. If the rate of burn increases more than what the rocket is designed for then you might get a boom rather than a loud whoosh. But they probably monitor or test the rockets to see if they are still functional.
‘That system was used up to 2002 , So any upgrades would still be modern enough for use.
Plus they were made by Raytheon - so dem boys and girls know what they need.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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ZDVYZHIVKA, Ukraine (AP) — Even by the standards of the important military officers who came and went in this tiny village, the man walking behind the Kamaz truck stood out.

Soldiers providing security peered from behind fences, their guns bristling in every direction. Two Ka-52 Alligator attack helicopters circled overhead, providing additional cover for Col. Gen. Alexander Chaiko as he escorted an aid convoy in March from the schoolhouse on Tsentralna Street that Russian officers commandeered as a headquarters.

Fifteen minutes away, in the village of Ozera, the lives of three men were about to take a dramatic turn for the worse. While Chaiko was directing Russia’s attack on Kyiv from Zdvyzhivka, the men were interrogated and tortured by Russian troops and then shot in the garden of a large house less than a mile from where the general now stood.

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cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Please explain. I can hit a clay pigeon at the height the drones are dropping the bombs. The drones are not moving when they drop their bombs. What would you use in the field to combat the drones then?
Iirc this debate began around doing something about Geran-2, a rebranded Iranian Shahed fixed-wing drone that does 185 kph. A shotgun can hit one such, but it would be a lucky shot. Great skeet shooters practice with loads that feel very different from the shoulder-shoving loads usually issued for a military/police shotgun.

Do the Russians use quadrotor bomb droppers?
 

printer

Well-Known Member
So that video was Ukrainians dropping bombs..... Not the Russians. You know that right?

I'm well aware of how war works and how tactics change, thank you.
We were talking about defenses from drones dropping shit, not who is doing it in the video. At least that is what I thought. But I have been known to miss important details the odd time here.
 
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