Vero18 and Vero29 Test Grow

tstick said:

Well, the purple Mother Tongue phenotype was harvested five days ago (on Day 80). Here it is hanging:

View attachment 3609016 View attachment 3609032 As you can see, it was not a very productive phenotype....nor was I able to provide optimal growing conditions for any of the plants this run...but I think I will gain magical powers after smoking a bit of this in a few weeks from now when it comes out of the curing jar! Yes, it will get trimmed...and probably combined with the trim from its sister phenotype (which is taking forever to ripen!) to make some nice bubble hash -if there's even enough to run! LOL!

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so ... after smoking and gaining magical powers you can talk to her and she will tell you what she likes and how to grow magic beans to take over the earth.

Low yield or not that is a nice layer of frosting.

Thanks, PurpleBuz!




All the plants have been harvested now. I took some pics last week before the chop. Enjoy!

This is G.A.S. "Twizzler" at 12 weeks (apologies for the blurry pic)..This flower smells like a skunk that was fed nothing but red licorice all its life, sprayed me right in the face! It's repellent, but delicious at the same time!

Here is the very lowest bud on the T.H. Seeds' "Dark Star" plant. There is very little smell to these flowers....until you touch one! Then the smell is like a very, VERY sweet black currant or raisin.

Here is the "sister" Mother Tongue to that purple phenotype that I posted earlier...It is very "OG" smelling -skunky fuel, etc.

Just to update and conclude (my part of) this review of the Timber Vero29 4000K fixture:

I was quite pleased with the performance of the light. Again, it's built extremely well -'tank-like' I'd say. All the components are top-of-the-line names -Vero (duh!), Meanwell, Ledil, Cooliance. The fixture ran very quietly and at a very low temperature. The emitters are driven very hard which makes them not the most efficient at full-power. I could have dimmed them via the dimmer switch to increase the efficiency, but I didn't opt for that. The plants seemed to love the intensity -even when they were placed directly under the Stella lenses. None of the plants burned or bleached at all.

I don't think the 4000K temperature is ideal for flowering. I think the flowers would have bulked up more with a 3500K temp. I got close to 200 grams of trimmed flower (and an undetermined amount of trim-weight) under 240 watts of 4000K -Not great yield, but not bad, either. I grew in soil, tree-style with no physical manipulation done to any of the plants. I probably could have gotten more yield by using various other growing techniques.

But, on the other hand, resin production was incredible on all plants under the 4000K. Overall, plant-health was great, too.

The 2-emitter Timber Vero240 is a fixture best-suited for a tight, rectangular space. It did fine in my square tent, but I had to rotate the plants regularly -not really a problem for me as I love to spend hands-on time with my plants!

The Stellas focus the light into a narrow, intense beams that suit tree-style growing very well because the hard-driven/focused beams can really penetrate deep into the canopy....But the Stellas might not suit a scrog style of growing as well as some lenses or reflectors.

I would like to see Timber offer some lens/reflector options that could spread the light more. The Stellas are great in some applications, though...and their 'cool-factor' is off the charts!! -just sayin' ...

Overall, the Timber Vero 240 4000K is a very powerful, hard-driven fixture that shoots for intensity over efficiency. I don't pay a lot for electricity in my small grow -(even when I was using HID, in the past), so electrical savings from a more efficient fixture is a non-issue for me. In a commercial application, it might be a different story. The advantage, for me, comes by way of similar intensity with less heat produced compared to HID.

Thanks for letting me share this thread with you, Jimmy (wherever you are!)! It was a fun grow and I think I'll break out some of that Mother Tongue right about now!!

Great light!

peace!

would vero 250w version be enough for 3,3x3,3 tent?

Diskokobaja said:

would vero 250w version be enough for 3,3x3,3 tent?

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I am using Cree cxb3070s, and cree cxb3590s, but I run 375 watts in a 24" x 48".
Mine might be overkill, but its dim-able if temps get high.
Not sure anymore, but I think it was somewhere between 10-20 par watts/ft^2 thats recommended

how much heat does it make?

Diskokobaja said:

how much heat does it make?

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I was having trouble in the winter with it being too cold so I reversed the exhaust to be an intake.
With it setup like that I am around 7-11*F over ambient inside tent, with exhaust venting out, and passive intake from bottom, I am 5-8*F over ambient with lights not dimmed

I run a 400 cfm Active air fan, and bought a speed controller and slowed it own during winter and was able to raise temps higher.
My tent wont allow 8" ducting, otherwise I would run more air through it for summertime

my main problem is the summer,the temp are craizy 30°c++ and my 400w cooltube hps becomes unusuable,so i was considering buying 2xhans 180w panels, it has ac unit separeted from the panel.. but vero seems better..

3 weeks ago, around 7 weeks 12/12, one side is Sannies Jack, other side is Killawatt

Diskokobaja said:

my main problem is the summer,the temp are craizy 30°c++ and my 400w cooltube hps becomes unusuable,so i was considering buying 2xhans 180w panels, it has ac unit separeted from the panel.. but vero seems better..

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That will be cooler, and if or when temps get too hot, you can dim the lights

LEDs do not have that awful spike in infrared that hps does, check a spectrum chart that shows longer wavelengths, it's the biggest spike on the chart. I made adjustments to keep my growing mix warm in cooler months. Cold soil or, in our case, cold growing mix slows everything down. A little coolness is easier to deal with than hot, humid and hps.