*** VEGANICS With DR. VonDank ***

I am currently on my 4th VEGANICS grow. I have been very impressed with the results and started working with this method in the pursuit of the cleanest form of medical grade MARIJUANA. I will post pics/product reviews/ and some different techniques that I have used that surround this method. I would also like to discuss this method with other growers thinking about using this method or incorporating parts into their grows. I have had great success with all kinds of methods and understand that there are as many different ways to successfully grow MJ as there are members of RIU---lol. I hope you enjoy the thread... Dr. VonDank

sounds interesting! can't wait to read more.

cool!
'very interested to learn about how veganics might be applied to growing cannabis.
subscribed!

cheers
-g

Veganics in a nut shell is growing without any kind of guano(pooooo),animal or fish products. There are a few complete vegan nutes and teas out there---I have used GENERAL HYDROPONICS VEGAN TEA/ CANNA TERRA LINE of nutes. NATURES N/P/K(each one comes in it's own bottle). You can mix your own teas as well. CANNA has a great soilless mix----CANNA TERRA PROFESSIONAL PLUS---You can use it straight out of the bag with great results but I like my mix ultra-loose soo I mix at least 50% perlite in. Roots love looose mediums... You can use alfalfa meal---cotton seed meal----rock phosphates--dolomite lime---soy bean meal---seaweed----paper ash--- and other minerals. Most commercial nutes are plant derived and fermented concentrates. One of the great things about veganics is that you really don't need a ph meter. There is little PH fluctuation in the RHIZOSPHERE zone and you have a larger PH range of availability and assimilation of major-secondary-and micro nutes. You can add your enzymes and your beneficial fungi/bacteria as well. Should have a few pics up in the next days---Pics of a few different strains we're running...

Dr. VonDank said:

Veganics in a nut shell is growing without any kind of guano(pooooo),animal or fish products

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Would that also include worm poo? (wormcastings)

Zod said:

Would that also include worm poo? (wormcastings)

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True veganics would not use worm-castings but you can mix both organic methods and veganic methods if you choose-some would argue that since worm-casting comes from worms eating soil that its vegan but I have not used it for my vegan grows but that is by choice. When I first started I thought that I would loose some taste and smell without the use of bat guano(my nute of choice in organics) but I was wrong----BY A LONG MEASURE!!!. The finale product with true veganics is incredible--ultra smooth smoke--beautiful flavor--and intense aroma. In my opinion better than organic. I am still working out all the details since this is only my 4th go with these methods but the results have been fantastic so far. I will get some pics up--I'm on day 30 with------*BURPLE*(BLUE DREAM HAZE X PURPS)------*ORANGE KRUSH*(ORANGE PHENO MAUI X BRAZILLIAN X LANDTRACE HINDU KUSH)---*GODZILLA*(AFGAN X LANDTRACE HINDU KUSH X MOUNTAIN GOAT)----*BLUE DREAM HAZE*(BLUEBERRY X ROMULAN X NEVILLES HAZE)----*STRAWBERRY CHEESECAKE*(STRAWBERRY COUGH X UK CHEESE X BLUEBERRY).

is it against veganism to smoke organic buds? since its not the animal but a product of animals.(i'm not vegan or vegetarian, just curious) but your buds sound dank and i wish i could try some. keep us updated brotha.

pacman said:

is it against veganism to smoke organic buds? since its not the animal but a product of animals.(i'm not vegan or vegetarian, just curious) but your buds sound dank and i wish i could try some. keep us updated brotha.

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LOL---I guess if you were a die-hard vegan than yes. I'm not but I am a purest. I can say that in my opinion from the results so far vegan grown MJ smokes ultra clean and smooth without the loss of aroma/taste/yeild. My yeilds are the same if not better...

lol, that sounds awesome.

But what about killing all that bacteria at the end of the grow? Is that proper husbandry? lol. jk

Also you cant get rid of worm casts! That is some organic sacriledge! Is that really against vegans? Now that I think about it I guess it must be.

tea tree said:

lol, that sounds awesome.

But what about killing all that bacteria at the end of the grow? Is that proper husbandry? lol. jk

Also you cant get rid of worm casts! That is some organic sacriledge! Is that really against vegans? Now that I think about it I guess it must be.

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LOL---- No need to kill beneficials... In fact I have reused the medium for 3 cycles and it got better with each one!!!--I would have used it a fourth time but the plants from the last grow had such massive roots it would have been more work then using new.---(note): the roots are as brite white at the end of cycles as they are in fresh clones---this method maintains very healthy plants.

If you use worm dung, the vegan police will come and snatch your crops...

Some pics of the veganic method--The pics are of GODZILLA. Day 31 of flower. The pics were taking under HPS lighting.

First pic is of GODZILLA. Second pic was posted to show how loose I run My mediums---75% perlite-----25% CANNA TERRA PROFFESIONAL PLUS. Roots love loose mediums. I try to build massive roots in the first 3 weeks of flowering to promote large bud set's. Third pic is of BURPLE---you can just start to see the blue/purple shading--once I finish the flush in 4 weeks the colors will come through---just wait.

Close up pics of Dr. VonDanks " BURPLE" at day 31 of flower.

ORANGE KRUSH pics.

Dr. VonDank said:

I am currently on my 4th VEGANICS grow. I have been very impressed with the results and started working with this method in the pursuit of the cleanest form of medical grade MARIJUANA. I will post pics/product reviews/ and some different techniques that I have used that surround this method. I would also like to discuss this method with other growers thinking about using this method or incorporating parts into their grows. I have had great success with all kinds of methods and understand that there are as many different ways to successfully grow MJ as there are members of RIU---lol. I hope you enjoy the thread... Dr. VonDank

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I am glad to find your site - now I know what a good one looks like.
Very good topic to share with us. Great info.

First pic is of dual R/O units with in-line TDS meter and PSI check valve. I have set-up all fittings with quick change JG fittings. In standard use the units will produce 220 gals/24hours. With the use of the booster in pic 2 I can get 400 gals/24hours. The booster is used for the last 3 weeks of flowering---YES--you do have to water more often when you run your mediums as loose as I do but without a doubt its worth it...

sacmitthe said:

I am glad to find your site - now I know what a good one looks like.
Very good topic to share with us. Great info.

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Thank you but you are going to find allot of great posts and threads on here if you hang around long enough... Are you a med patient???

now, i wish the internet had scratch n' sniff! lovin the set-up brotha, smoke one for me when those babes are done.

pacman said:

now, i wish the internet had scratch n' sniff! lovin the set-up brotha, smoke one for me when those babes are done.

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Thank you brother----Will post some more pics in a couple weeks(I'm the worst photographer in the world----I'm going to stick to growing meds---lol...

I have been vegan for many years now and have also tried veganic gardening. I consider worm castings to be vegan though (only if you are obtaining them yourself, meaning no bagged!), because there isn't any exploitation going on in me collecting the worm castings. All of my vegan leftover scrap go into the worm bin, and out comes the black gold that makes my soil thrive. The same way that I don't consider raising your own animals for slaughter to be wrong, or hunting for food to be wrong either (not saying its vegan, I just don't see anything wrong with it if you can stomach doing it). I'm not a fan of trophy hunting, but if you are going to hunt for food, then I see no problem in it. But I know that 'some' vegans (mainly from the PETA mafia) see even hunting (something that native americans and hunter/gatherer tribes have been doing for thousands of years) as wrong. I'm sorry, I'm just not that dogmatic. And PETA are a bunch of self-rightous fringe dogmatists that makes all vegans look bad and one of the central reasons why veganism is frowned upon (besides for the strange fact that most omnivores seem 'threatened' by vegan lifestyle, and will bash it to no end, but at no time will look into the horrible things that go on inside of factory farms & slaughterhouses.)