SlightlyVaped
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I won't be making it that far south in San Jose for a while, but nice to see your concentrates hitting the South Bay.
Now if we can only get some quality clones down this way...
Vegan Organics Aka Veganics With Matt Rize
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Now if we can only get some quality clones down this way...
Matt Rize
Hashmaster
haha, thanks. they had some nice Raskal OG cuts at SouthbayCRC. Here is some of my Sour Diesel ice wax available there.
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SlightlyVaped
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Very nice, Sour D always seems to make some nice melt.
How are you preparing the plant for your hash?
I've heard of so many different ways, so just wondering if you are using fresh from the plant trim or are you drying/curing it before running?
How are you preparing the plant for your hash?
I've heard of so many different ways, so just wondering if you are using fresh from the plant trim or are you drying/curing it before running?
Matt Rize
Hashmaster
I do both. The OG is from dry, the Sour is from wet and dry.
NightbirdX
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You still using the same method as in your Youtube vid? I'm looking to start making some bubble and want mine to look like that, lol.
hey ya'll..... jus wanna give u guys an update on my deficiency scenario i was dealing a while back....i gave the ladies some extra love with some phosphorus sprinkled on top and they are getting better, the new growth on top does not show any signs of deficiency so i think it'll b allrite 
i did pull some of the leaves that were affected but i'm concerned about pulling all of them, my understanding is that we need the leaves for photosynthesis and they also hold nutrients which the plant feeds off of but at the same time a buddy of mine always says to pull the sick leaves because the plant is using energy to repair them.
what exactly is a safe way of doing it? do i need to worry about pulling too many leaves? or jus say f uk it and get rid of all that looks bad and hope for more to grow?
i'm in almost two weeks of flower, btw.
anotha thing i wanted to point out is that i believe i made a mistake when i've switched [midway vegging] from GO to BioCanna of not supplying the plant micros.
GO macros have micros in them as well but Canna does not- would that be the right assumption??
i did pull some of the leaves that were affected but i'm concerned about pulling all of them, my understanding is that we need the leaves for photosynthesis and they also hold nutrients which the plant feeds off of but at the same time a buddy of mine always says to pull the sick leaves because the plant is using energy to repair them.
what exactly is a safe way of doing it? do i need to worry about pulling too many leaves? or jus say f uk it and get rid of all that looks bad and hope for more to grow?
i'm in almost two weeks of flower, btw.
anotha thing i wanted to point out is that i believe i made a mistake when i've switched [midway vegging] from GO to BioCanna of not supplying the plant micros.
GO macros have micros in them as well but Canna does not- would that be the right assumption??
PakaloloHui
Active Member
??? 06:13 into the video ???
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[video=youtube;gnp4Ywjz-po]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnp4Ywjz-po[/video]
RPsmoke420
Active Member
Good to hear! General rule of thumb is to remove leaves once they reach the 50% damage mark.hey ya'll..... jus wanna give u guys an update on my deficiency scenario i was dealing a while back....i gave the ladies some extra love with some phosphorus sprinkled on top and they are getting better, the new growth on top does not show any signs of deficiency so i think it'll b allrite
i did pull some of the leaves that were affected but i'm concerned about pulling all of them, my understanding is that we need the leaves for photosynthesis and they also hold nutrients which the plant feeds off of but at the same time a buddy of mine always says to pull the sick leaves because the plant is using energy to repair them.
what exactly is a safe way of doing it? do i need to worry about pulling too many leaves? or jus say f uk it and get rid of all that looks bad and hope for more to grow?
i'm in almost two weeks of flower, btw.
anotha thing i wanted to point out is that i believe i made a mistake when i've switched [midway vegging] from GO to BioCanna of not supplying the plant micros.
GO macros have micros in them as well but Canna does not- would that be the right assumption??
Your assumption could have something to do with it. It could also be, that while the plant was growing, it was finding enough Phosphorus. As time went on, it's needs changed, and required more. It couldn't find what it needed, so deficiency began to show, as the plant tried to keep up. Being at two weeks into flower, perhaps the plant began needing more as flowering set in. Hard to say. pH can play a role on availablilty, as well as other nutrients. I know some micro-nutrients work as antagonists to each other. Such as too much iron may produce manganese and zinc deficiencies, while high levels of manganese may result in iron and zinc deficiencies.
I am stoned, and over thinking this though! lol
NightbirdX
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Like RP said, I take my leaves off once they are 50% damaged.hey ya'll..... jus wanna give u guys an update on my deficiency scenario i was dealing a while back....i gave the ladies some extra love with some phosphorus sprinkled on top and they are getting better, the new growth on top does not show any signs of deficiency so i think it'll b allrite
i did pull some of the leaves that were affected but i'm concerned about pulling all of them, my understanding is that we need the leaves for photosynthesis and they also hold nutrients which the plant feeds off of but at the same time a buddy of mine always says to pull the sick leaves because the plant is using energy to repair them.
what exactly is a safe way of doing it? do i need to worry about pulling too many leaves? or jus say f uk it and get rid of all that looks bad and hope for more to grow?
i'm in almost two weeks of flower, btw.
anotha thing i wanted to point out is that i believe i made a mistake when i've switched [midway vegging] from GO to BioCanna of not supplying the plant micros.
GO macros have micros in them as well but Canna does not- would that be the right assumption??
As for your micro's, I mix in dolomite lime into the soil to provide more Calcium and Magnesium and help buffer the pH in case there are any "issues." I feel like it gives me a little wiggle room. I will also use a product called Earth Tonic every now and again to add more micros. Earth Tonic is basically sea water. It's ingredients include, "Gulf Stream ocean water, Himalayan crystal salt, colloidal clay, nettle's tea, and the biodynamic preperations BD500-508." Sea water will have everything you need when it comes to micros and is beneficial in small amounts. I use 1 ml/gal every few weeks. There are other products out there to get your micros, if you are worried about it, find the one that works for you and follow the directions. EJ makes a good micronutrient supplement from what I hear. I chose Earth Tonic because it's made by crazy hippies who are way out there, but know what they are talking about.
Here's the intro from their web page: http://www.progressearth.com/index.php/products/detail/4/tonic
"Earth Tonic is a biodynamically enhanced sea mineral concentrate containing literally all Earth-bound elements. This results in over 90 elements for your plants to choose from rather than the 17 elements in most hydroponic nutrients.
Think of Earth Tonic as biological minerals, like a tool kit for life. The ingredients include Gulf Stream ocean water, Himalayan crystal salt, colloidal clay, nettle's tea, and the biodynamic preperations BD500-508. The ingredients are prepared and potentized in proprietary ways. The result of this alchemical summit isover 90 naturally occuring elements, humic acids, naturally occuring vitamins, and primary metabolic compounds unique to the properties of the specific plants and herbs contained within.
By providing these tools to plants and the microbes that help them, we are harnessing the full potential of life by increasing the nutrient density of our food and catalyzing the nutrient cycling capabilities of microbes.
The magic of soil is the living microbes. There's another universe down there, up to 500,000 bacteria can fit in the exclamation point at the end of this sentence! Plants use most of them, but microbes use every single element on the periodic table to create the compounds that allow them to do their work and that result in the materials that form plant food. What if you hired someone to build a house and only provided them half of the tools?
For instance, a hydroponic tomato can be grown using only 17 elements, but it ends up with more than 17 elements in its tissue...what are we missing?"
cool cool, that's a good rule of thumb and i'll b following it from now on- thx
part of me not wanting to rip everything off was because some of the leaves had spots on them but weren't as bad so I figured not to do it.I know what ur saying about the mcros acting against, I was actually thinking about that not too long ago, how in some of these bottles you find a small percentage of CA or MG or whT not and let's say ur main nute has a small percentage of MG and maybe something else has a small amount of MG then on top of that u add something like CaMg from GO who has somewhat balanced amount of both but in the end u end up with more MG then needed and that could lock up something else, right? I'm starting to keep an eye for that now and kinda moving towards simpler macro/micro mixes.....
hey neighbor!! I'm just a stone throw away in OH
that tonic stuff looks interesting- have u contacted them at all ? their literature reads intense, too much for my brain, and didn't see anything about being organic although it does says natural..... it's probably kosher though.
maybe Matt could jump in here and state his opinion, it seems to be his lingo...
I'm doing 'hempy buckets' which is a method of hydro and i don't think lime would work but next crop I'll have half of it in soil so I will b able to use it.
back to micros, ur saying only use it now and then not with regular feed schedule?
r u using tap, RO, filtered watered? I'm doing RO so I feel like I should sup the micros more often......
Matt Rize
Hashmaster
hey yall. been hashin it up. this is some Sour Diesel. exclusively available at www.southbayCRC.org
I've been testing the plushberry and the pink pheno is the winner for sure. rize up
I've been testing the plushberry and the pink pheno is the winner for sure. rize up
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NightbirdX
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Like I said, they are crazy hippies, but it works, lol.hey neighbor!! I'm just a stone throw away in OH
that tonic stuff looks interesting- have u contacted them at all ? their literature reads intense, too much for my brain, and didn't see anything about being organic although it does says natural..... it's probably kosher though.
maybe Matt could jump in here and state his opinion, it seems to be his lingo...
I'm doing 'hempy buckets' which is a method of hydro and i don't think lime would work but next crop I'll have half of it in soil so I will b able to use it.
back to micros, ur saying only use it now and then not with regular feed schedule?
r u using tap, RO, filtered watered? I'm doing RO so I feel like I should sup the micros more often......
GoldenGanja13
Well-Known Member
Well i searched out all of Eugene and Springfield Or. looking for Canna. Finally found it at Greener Side of Life . I bought what i needed to get started being i am using fresh clones from mommies that are headed for flowering. The mommies will continue using the Humboldts Naturals line up. The clones will be using the full Canna line up. I purchased Terra Vegga, CANNA RHIZOTONIC and Cannazyme. I will be going back for the rest of the line before i flower. I did not see Canna start ? i wonder if i over looked it?
SlightlyVaped
Member
I just got back from my local grow shop which had a little vendor day and a Canna rep was present.
I asked about BTPlus and short answer is it will be back, although not any time soon (maybe this time next year). The reason it was pulled from the shelves is that the Department of Agriculture was not allowing a few of the ingredients to get imported, so they have had to find a soil maker in North America to create their product.
Obviously a few ingredients are going to be different such as Canadian Peat vs. European peat but the good news for us vegan farmers is they believe they have found a manufacturer to create a plant based nutrient charge vs. the animal by-product nutrient charge.
This is currently being tested in the labs at their main headquarters and with the time frame being so far off things can definitely change but that's the latest from the Canna rep's mouth.
I asked about BTPlus and short answer is it will be back, although not any time soon (maybe this time next year). The reason it was pulled from the shelves is that the Department of Agriculture was not allowing a few of the ingredients to get imported, so they have had to find a soil maker in North America to create their product.
Obviously a few ingredients are going to be different such as Canadian Peat vs. European peat but the good news for us vegan farmers is they believe they have found a manufacturer to create a plant based nutrient charge vs. the animal by-product nutrient charge.
This is currently being tested in the labs at their main headquarters and with the time frame being so far off things can definitely change but that's the latest from the Canna rep's mouth.
SlightlyVaped
Member
Not sure if you were looking to go the veganic route, but those nutrients are not organic let alone veganic. For veganic gardening you want the Bio Vega and I'd swap out the Cannazyme for Hygrozyme to be certified organic.
Matt Rize
Hashmaster
more hashin' going to www.southbayCRC.org
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