Vegan Organics Aka Veganics With Matt Rize

Hey Matt i have a question about organics and ph and i thought you would proably know this. I have a organic soil garden and i was wondering will using general hydroponics ph up and down powder cause salt build up in my soil from it? will the gen hydro ph powder do anything bad to my soil? what organic ph adjustments do you recommend? thanks

Matt,

Is there any possibility of publishing the advanced version of your book on amazon for kindle download / purchase ? I'd really love to see a heightened view of veganics and soil culture in general.

Thank You,
-PE

Holy Crap!!! two weeks or so later and WAY too much time at my day job spent on this thread, but i finished it!

Gotta go home now to my 2nd job (and my true love), so after a veganic bowl or two i will be back.

Matt, nightbird, wolverine, uptheA, i feel like i know you all! LOL i've been posting over on IC most recently, then found this, i'll have some pics and my experiences up later. Just excited to have learned so much already on this thread and ready to contribute (i forced myself to finish before i posted!)

blueJ said:

Holy Crap!!! two weeks or so later and WAY too much time at my day job spent on this thread, but i finished it!

Gotta go home now to my 2nd job (and my true love), so after a veganic bowl or two i will be back.

Matt, nightbird, wolverine, uptheA, i feel like i know you all! LOL i've been posting over on IC most recently, then found this, i'll have some pics and my experiences up later. Just excited to have learned so much already on this thread and ready to contribute (i forced myself to finish before i posted!)

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Glad you took the time to read it, there's a lot of good discussion on this thread without much bullshit and trolling.

Yeah for anyone needing current info on indoor vegan organic / plant based growing man i think this is the place! But for real, do a quick search if you need some info, the last 20 to 30 pages here have gotten too muddied with redundancy in the questions and what not, this place might lose it's steam, as far as being like an easily maneuverable catalog of info on the the options out for the nutes/supps/media etc., but whatever.

I'm in my 2nd & 3rd run with this style of growing and it's had it's learning curves and shit i'm still learning and need to get the ladies dialed in all the way through, but regardless, i have grown the best damn flowers, of my life, and look forward to it only getting better!

Sour BMR aka Blush aka Blue Kush (Bogs Sour Bubble X Blue Moon Rocks), my sour blueberry lady =), in love, i fuckin' swear, best smelling best tasting potent clear dynamic, man damnit, i swear i'm never going back, haha!

This first one is my Sour Blueberry lady - fresh blueberry smell & taste. The 2nd two are Sour Bubble purple pheno.


These are from my first run in pure Coconot with cannabio vega/flores/boost, soluble seaweed, HN 0-10-0 & molasses oh and hygrozyme & calmag+ using RO water. These are my two keepers from these strains, there is one more blush i am keeping, for the time being, as it is the most potent cannabis i have ever smoked (i really want to get it tested), but it's veg time needed is ridiculously long. The other phenos all showed real bad deficiencies which i now attribute to very low PH in my bloom feedings (low 4.0's). I figured maybe the coconot lost its gusto once it got a few weeks into flower and without adjusting the PH it just went downhill from there. (thoughts? if you're so inclined, check out my "mid-flower issues" thread in the cannabis infirmary on icmag, i am BlueJayWay over there) seemed like all or most of the feedback i got over there was from chem and/or hydro growers so yeah, not a lot of help....

My 2nd run i mixed 50/50 coconot and happy frog, cut it with 20% chunky perlite, added dolomite lime, vermiblend compost, alfalfa meal. Using Mykos in transplants, teas with EWC or the compost & molasses. Foliar with cold pressed seaweed extract, alternating neem oil. Switched to GO calmag to avoid the EDTA Iron & to keep it more organic, added rhizotonic, want to pick up some protekt. Oh yeah, i ordered the fullpower, TM7 and the vam-endo from bioag, looking forward to gettin' those in the mix! I don't like using so much shit, honesty, but in the right amounts & at the right time i think it's beneficial to give your garden a good variety, even of the same nutes but from difference sources, ya feel me?

A couple more runs and i feel like i'll get shit dialed in....

Here's my knock you on your arse Blush, that musky kush/earthy flavor is so strong it makes me sneeze with big bong rips, that happen to you? LOL

Hey blueJ! Those are some absolutely beautiful looking buds!

You're doing really well and it's awesome to have you here on the thread, and big props for taking the time to read the whole thing, not many do

blueJ said:

Holy Crap!!! two weeks or so later and WAY too much time at my day job spent on this thread, but i finished it!

Gotta go home now to my 2nd job (and my true love), so after a veganic bowl or two i will be back.

Matt, nightbird, wolverine, uptheA, i feel like i know you all! LOL i've been posting over on IC most recently, then found this, i'll have some pics and my experiences up later. Just excited to have learned so much already on this thread and ready to contribute (i forced myself to finish before i posted!)

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It most assuredly has been a journey. Its funny to look back now and see what I was whinimg about.

Matt Rize said:

sorry... i could have sworn we've been over mayan like 100 times already. could be my mistake.

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yeah this thread is getting pretty redundant, no offense
same questions same answers lol
but man is it LOADED with FREE info.

people take time and read it!!! and read rize's blog!!

I just got back from Canadia. Will reply to these posts later. Nice looking buds blueJ

sharpshoota said:

yeah this thread is getting pretty redundant, no offense
same questions same answers lol
but man is it LOADED with FREE info.

people take time and read it!!! and read rize's blog!!

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Maybe we could take the first post in this thread and use it to compile the collective knowledge that this thread has unearthed? Even if it just included a list of usual veganic nutrients/additives, feeding strengths, and soil mixes (including info on neem cakes and such), etc, we'd be dealing with a lot fewer repetitive questions. I've been following this thread since day 1, but we can't expect everyone who has a short question about veganics to slog through 166 pages.

Just a thought. I know it makes more work for people who aren't me, but it would definitely cut down on the number of redundant questions.

Da Almighty Jew said:

Hey Matt i have a question about organics and ph and i thought you would proably know this. I have a organic soil garden and i was wondering will using general hydroponics ph up and down powder cause salt build up in my soil from it? will the gen hydro ph powder do anything bad to my soil? what organic ph adjustments do you recommend? thanks

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I don't think using small amounts of pH adjusters have a negative impact on your garden. I use earth juice's pH down, and I never need pH up.
Lately my pH has been around 5.9 using RO water and my nutes.

Ponicengineer said:

Matt,

Is there any possibility of publishing the advanced version of your book on amazon for kindle download / purchase ? I'd really love to see a heightened view of veganics and soil culture in general.

Thank You,
-PE

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Sorry brah. Its Kushman's book, and High Times wants a few more chapters before they publish it. On top of that, I'm just too damn busy making ice water extracts to volunteer time right now. Unfortunately the book and movie are still in the works.

blueJ said:

Holy Crap!!! two weeks or so later and WAY too much time at my day job spent on this thread, but i finished it!

Gotta go home now to my 2nd job (and my true love), so after a veganic bowl or two i will be back.

Matt, nightbird, wolverine, uptheA, i feel like i know you all! LOL i've been posting over on IC most recently, then found this, i'll have some pics and my experiences up later. Just excited to have learned so much already on this thread and ready to contribute (i forced myself to finish before i posted!)

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Fark ic... welcome to RIU, where you can post whatever you want without being modded.

blueJ said:

Yeah for anyone needing current info on indoor vegan organic / plant based growing man i think this is the place! But for real, do a quick search if you need some info, the last 20 to 30 pages here have gotten too muddied with redundancy in the questions and what not, this place might lose it's steam, as far as being like an easily maneuverable catalog of info on the the options out for the nutes/supps/media etc., but whatever.

I'm in my 2nd & 3rd run with this style of growing and it's had it's learning curves and shit i'm still learning and need to get the ladies dialed in all the way through, but regardless, i have grown the best damn flowers, of my life, and look forward to it only getting better!

Sour BMR aka Blush aka Blue Kush (Bogs Sour Bubble X Blue Moon Rocks), my sour blueberry lady =), in love, i fuckin' swear, best smelling best tasting potent clear dynamic, man damnit, i swear i'm never going back, haha!
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Welcome to the thread... sick pics!

sharpshoota said:

yeah this thread is getting pretty redundant, no offense
same questions same answers lol
but man is it LOADED with FREE info.

people take time and read it!!! and read rize's blog!!

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LOL thanks brah. No worries, when I got the sticky I assumed we would pick up some new veganic farmers.

Im not seeing anything regarding soy protein when i search here is it beneficial to use? seems as though the plants like carbs! what about protein or fat sources, like oils??

great thread bro, just moved to vegan.

dickkhead said:

Im not seeing anything regarding soy protein when i search here is it beneficial to use? seems as though the plants like carbs! what about protein or fat sources, like oils??

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Soy is what Natures Nectar uses for their Nitrogen formula. Also BioLink. I have some issues in general with the way soy is farmed (not as bad as cottonseed, but not as good as kelp or alfalfa meals), but it is a solid vegan N source.

I was at the big health food store yesterday, Clarks, which is also a big organic mega-vitamin/supplement store, and i was surprised how much stuff there is for "us humans" that we also feed to our gardens.

CalMag+ in every form, i don't think it would be any better, looks to be the same shit just more expensive.

What would be better if using yucca, the 100% pure yucca "juice" or the "gel"

All kinds of agave syrups, organic molasses'

and check out this http://www.healthforce.com/shop?page=shop.product_details&flypage=garden_flypage.tpl&product_id=6&category_id=1

they have a product called vitamineral green, look at the ingredients, so many that we feed (or can feed) to the garden, wonder if the plants would like this as much as it says we would?

blueJ said:

I was at the big health food store yesterday, Clarks, which is also a big organic mega-vitamin/supplement store, and i was surprised how much stuff there is for "us humans" that we also feed to our gardens.

CalMag+ in every form, i don't think it would be any better, looks to be the same shit just more expensive.

What would be better if using yucca, the 100% pure yucca "juice" or the "gel"

All kinds of agave syrups, organic molasses'

and check out this http://www.healthforce.com/shop?page=shop.product_details&flypage=garden_flypage.tpl&product_id=6&category_id=1

they have a product called vitamineral green, look at the ingredients, so many that we feed (or can feed) to the garden, wonder if the plants would like this as much as it says we would?

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The CalMag for humans is probably higher quality than the plant CalMag.
Pure yucca juice is better than the gel. Look for a yucca without preservative. T&J Enterprises makes the best one, order it online.
I've been using the agave syrup in my garden recently. With or in place of molasses.

I'll have to check out the mineralgreen.

glad to hear your a organics Mod now. saw it in WN episode 27. when u guys getting together to do an episode?

farmer2424 said:

glad to hear your a organics Mod now. saw it in WN episode 27. when u guys getting together to do an episode?

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shh! LOL

Not soon enough, Sub is the man and I look forward to our next meeting.
My Flav plants (from seed) are about 3 weeks into flower, I'll try to put some pics up tonight.

Weed Nerd Episode #27. Breeding and Males:
[video=youtube;WIxx0LrmgwA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIxx0LrmgwA[/video]

95% Veganic grower here. Anyone else out there bubbling your Biocanna overnight before feeding? I have found that it helps the ph to raise a bit and gives the benis a jump start on breaking it down.