Vegan Organics Aka Veganics With Matt Rize

SeniorFrostyKush said:

anyone got some pics of their vegan garden or nugshots?

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My grow was done using a list of stuff kyle recommended on his forum until Vegamatrix was released. First medical grow and using LED's so really only captured about 60-70 percent of the taste but they looked and smelled absolutely incredible. WHICH BTW I saw the Vegamatrix bottles today and great flaming Apollo if I saw them all, and read ingredients correctly THERE'S ONLY THREE DIFFERENT BOTTLES TO BUY!

Junior bacon cheeseburger from Wendy's for life.

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ nope didn't you hear they got in trouble too. not organic and not vegan. the only way to be true organic is source your own or grow your own nutes

hyroot said:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ nope didn't you hear they got in trouble too. not organic and not vegan. the only way to be true organic is source your own or grow your own nutes

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link to confirmation of this claim please ive checked the ingredient list its vegan. they do have 1 line that is not vegan and contains fish

^^^^^^^^^ check the department of agriculture for california and oregon. Nutrient companies do not list all their ingredients on the label. You would be surprised at all the heavy metals and chemicals that are in so called organic nutrients. Maxi crop kelp has some of the same chems found in Drano and liquid plumber. Toss those bottled nutes and use dry nutes that you can source locally with out walking into a hydro shop.

hyroot said:

^^^^^^^^^ check the department of agriculture for california and oregon. Nutrient companies do not list all their ingredients on the label. You would be surprised at all the heavy metals and chemicals that are in so called organic nutrients. Maxi crop kelp has some of the same chems found in Drano and liquid plumber. Toss those bottled nutes and use dry nutes that you can source locally with out walking into a hydro shop.

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im more worried about the veganic aspect than organic

sunni said:

im more worried about the veganic aspect than organic

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chems are worst than any animal products. Mine are almost vegan. I just use crab meal as the only animal product. I have used fish meal a few times. I do not use guano, manure, bone meal , and blood meal. my nute regiment is crab meal, neem meal, kelp meal, basalt or glacial rock dust or soft rock phosphate

Chems in nutrients and pesticedes stay in the plant even after flushing and are absorbed into your body when smoked and can lead to cancer and upper respiratory problems.

hyroot said:

chems are worst than any animal products. Mine are almost vegan. I just use crab meal as the only animal product. I have used fish meal a few times. I do not use guano, manure, bone meal , and blood meal. my nute regiment is crab meal, neem meal, kelp meal, basalt or glacial rock dust or soft rock phosphate

Chems in nutrients and pesticedes stay in the plant even after flushing and are absorbed into your body when smoked and can lead to cancer and upper respiratory problems.

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welli emailed the company ill see what they say

http://www.oregon.gov/ODA/pest/Pages/stopsales.aspx


http://oda.state.or.us/dbs/heavy_metal/hitlist.lasso


http://oda.state.or.us/dbs/heavy_metal/detail.lasso?-op=eq&product_id=16787


bio thrive bloom has Indole3 Butyric Acid, Naphthaleneacetic Acid, Phosphorous Acid, Arsenic, Cadmium, Mercury, Lead, Nickel. All very bad chems and some poisons....


nutrient companies have to register and disclose all ingredients to each state so they can legally sell in each state. They are not required to disclose info on the label. If they lie in marketing I'm sure they will lie in the email.


Come join us over in these threada

https://www.rollitup.org/organics/636057-recycled-organic-living-soil-rols.html

https://www.rollitup.org/organics/676040-total-noob-using-teas-i.html

https://www.rollitup.org/organics/753111-correct-way-make-actively-aerated.html

yet you still have no information containing to it being vegan.
i told you i dont care about the organics part i care about vegan part. i think youre thick headed, i appreciate the comments but actually listen to what im saying not what you want to hear

i never claimined it to be organic i claimed it to be VEGAN.

secondly organic imho is the biggest piece of bullshit marketing ever

and third just because its labelled that way in your country doesnt mean its labelled the same in mine.

^^^^^^^^ ummm well this thread is called vegan organics..... in the organic section....


http://www.times-standard.com/localnews/ci_24628828/what-are-you-smoking-study-finds-pesticides-transfer

http://www.mendocinobeacon.com/ci_24629067/what-are-you-smoking-study-finds-pesticides-transfer

http://www.mendocinobeacon.com/regionalnews/ci_24660524/buyers-beware-study-finds-that-pesticides-transfer-marijuana


withe pure organics. all the food is readily available for the plant to take when it needs it. The plant is able to grow to its full potential of its genetics. With chems you have to give precisely what the plants needs and when it needss. Chems cut corners sort of speak to manipulate growth and the plant is unable to grow to it's full potential. Plus the chems stay absorbed in the plant even after flushing.

cannabis is amagnet for attraction of toxins. Phytoremediation is the process. Cannabis is used to clean up metals, pesticides, crude oilsolvents,polyaromatic hydrocarbons, and toxins leaching from landfills.

hyroot said:

^^^^^^^^ well this thread is called vegan organics.....


http://www.times-standard.com/localnews/ci_24628828/what-are-you-smoking-study-finds-pesticides-transfer

http://www.mendocinobeacon.com/ci_24629067/what-are-you-smoking-study-finds-pesticides-transfer

http://www.mendocinobeacon.com/regionalnews/ci_24660524/buyers-beware-study-finds-that-pesticides-transfer-marijuana

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im done arguing you only hear what you want to hear

Hey Sunni, have you grown Cheese Quake or any other TGA strains? I've done Querkle and Queen of Hearts (Vortex x Ace of Spades) so far and I liked them both. The Querkle had a bit more of a stretch than I like so I retired her, but great smoke. I'm currently flowering a mainlined Vortex and she's a beaut! Good luck with the TGA gear, so far everything I've ran has been top notch!

sunni said:

yet you still have no information containing to it being vegan.
i told you i dont care about the organics part i care about vegan part. i think youre thick headed, i appreciate the comments but actually listen to what im saying not what you want to hear

i never claimined it to be organic i claimed it to be VEGAN.

secondly organic imho is the biggest piece of bullshit marketing ever

and third just because its labelled that way in your country doesnt mean its labelled the same in mine.

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So you don't care what shit you dump on your plant as long as it's "vegan"??

This is the vegan ORGANIC thread. And while the word organic may not mean much when it comes to the food we eat, it means a lot when talking about this plant. Battery acid is vegan. Are you OK with feeding your plants that?

Holy shit chill out buddy relax lol. for your information there
i had bought it that day, it simply only had the ingredient list. i knew nothing of the product previously

you dont need to attack me with a fucking bag of bricks for buying something on impulse.

i don't use bricks, I throw rotten vegetables . Nah those vegetables go in my worm bin...

Is poop vegan.. U kno the kind that comes out of animals butt holes..

foreverflyhi said:

Is poop vegan.. U kno the kind that comes out of animals butt holes..

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I've been wondering the same thing myself actually. I use chicken, horse, steer, rabbit, and goat shit. Mix it with some leaf mold and some alfalfa hay and let it bake for a year or more... Man that's some good shit, vegan or not.

sunni said:

Holy shit chill out buddy relax lol. for your information there
i had bought it that day, it simply only had the ingredient list. i knew nothing of the product previously

you dont need to attack me with a fucking bag of bricks for buying something on impulse.

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I didn't attack you, and it had nothing to do with your purchase. Buy whatever you want, but when you ask a question in the organics section about a nutrient line you shouldn't be shocked when the conversation heads that direction.

While you're busy calling others "thick headed" ...... you're being thick headed yourself. You don't care if something is organic, only if it's vegan. That makes no sense. Every synthetic nutrient on the market is "vegan" by definition, but is about the furthest thing from organic that you could find. Miracle Grow is vegan, and is very inexpensive. Maybe that would work for you.

Damn sunni for having 13,000 post u sure dont choose ur words wisely

Im not saying i dont agree with u, however i do disagree on most of what u said regaurding vegan and organics.

btw not that it matters to you, but maybe u are right about that line of nutrients being "vegan" but have u ever stop to think about what that bottle is made from? Or hows its made? Not very vegan/sustainable or organic is it?