Walter9999
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Veg for as long as you can indoors...then graduate them to your outdoor garden...you have to plan for the flowering time length to finish...g/l
Veg questions
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Urhighness88
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What you mean plant for flowering time? So that they don't Reveg? And what if I put out seeds right when they sprout would it be worth it?
Jimmy Luffnan
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I think what Walter means is that the amount of time you veg indoors is limited by the amount time you have left in your winter before spring when the days start to become longer again.
Imagine flowering a 12 week plant at 12/12 and then in the last few weeks you start to change the lighting cycle back up to 18/6...
Your plant will be thinking wtf... and funny things will happen, and not in a good way
So if you have X amount of winter left and your plant takes X amount of time to flower and finish, then your plants must be outdoor and on their way to flowering before spring comes to give you enough time to finish properly.
Sorry if this post sounded really 'umm duh"... but I just wanted to make it clear in case you were unsure
Cheers Jimmy.
Imagine flowering a 12 week plant at 12/12 and then in the last few weeks you start to change the lighting cycle back up to 18/6...
Your plant will be thinking wtf... and funny things will happen, and not in a good way
So if you have X amount of winter left and your plant takes X amount of time to flower and finish, then your plants must be outdoor and on their way to flowering before spring comes to give you enough time to finish properly.
Sorry if this post sounded really 'umm duh"... but I just wanted to make it clear in case you were unsure
Cheers Jimmy.
Adjorr
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This is why I had suggested auto flowers, you don't need to worry about the length of daylight there going to get as they will veg and flower on there own schedule. If your doing photoperiod plants and they get more then 12 hours of daylight they wont flower and will stay in/return to veg.
Urhighness88
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I'm not to worried about the time I have cuz it's plenty and I was thinking about autos but I wanna know if there is a real difference between throwing a auto seed out and throwing a fem seed out ya know? Like witch one will produce more? Cuz I know I have a few small seeds that are jus going into flower and there between 6-12 inches. Maybe a foot an a half. But I jus wanted to know if seedlings would get bigger cuz I know they have to mature then they flower and thanks jimmy I understood it before bit thanks for breaking it down and making it more clear lol
perplexus
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You will get a better yield if you veg for a month... For sure. You can grow straight into flower, but if you start with knee highs, so muxh the better. Why not trow a few outside at the same time you start your indoor. Then youll have SOME product finishing a month after you mkve your next wave out. Think sea of green, but with a green house instead of a flowering room. once you hit march 15 or so you will start to lose dark and by may 15 youll prolly wanna be depping. But yeah, do it bro. Go huge.
perplexus
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Ummm. Blackbox?I think what Walter means is that the amount of time you veg indoors is limited by the amount time you have left in your winter before spring when the days start to become longer again.
Imagine flowering a 12 week plant at 12/12 and then in the last few weeks you start to change the lighting cycle back up to 18/6...
Your plant will be thinking wtf... and funny things will happen, and not in a good way
So if you have X amount of winter left and your plant takes X amount of time to flower and finish, then your plants must be outdoor and on their way to flowering before spring comes to give you enough time to finish properly.
Sorry if this post sounded really 'umm duh"... but I just wanted to make it clear in case you were unsure
Cheers Jimmy.
perplexus
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Two weeks. Read this. https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/69404-biology-lesson.html as for fem or auto, i would say just get fast finishers, not necessrily autos, because as has been mentioned, you can perpetuate your crop easier with something you can clone.I'm not to worried about the time I have cuz it's plenty and I was thinking about autos but I wanna know if there is a real difference between throwing a auto seed out and throwing a fem seed out ya know? Like witch one will produce more? Cuz I know I have a few small seeds that are jus going into flower and there between 6-12 inches. Maybe a foot an a half. But I jus wanted to know if seedlings would get bigger cuz I know they have to mature then they flower and thanks jimmy I understood it before bit thanks for breaking it down and making it more clear lol
Jimmy Luffnan
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I think a more organised approach would be better than a 'Blackbox'
The use of Black Boxes seem more efficient to be used in the summer months to cut down the light,
12 hours from sunrise, close the box, no ventilation required as it is only sealed for 6 hours, then reopen and it is ready for dawn again
Using a Blackbox in winter to extend light period requires ventilation and lighting.
With a solar panel, small battery and a small motor... this can also be automated with a little creativity
Cheers Jimmy.
Urhighness88
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I have heard that an outside light can keep them in veg?
Walter9999
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what is this "throw a seed outside" supposed to mean?? If you throw a seed in the ground in "winter" it's going to grow very slow because of the shorter days...if you veg indoors and then put the plant outside it will immediately go to flowering with the shorter winter days...
yes, an outdoor light can cause probs...but it would have to be very very close to the plant to cause issues...a street light 100 foot away will not be an issue...I'm not convinced you understand the concept yet???
Urhighness88
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I understand the concept perfectly fine I'm jus trying to find an alternative way of giving them suplimental light without breaking the bank ya know I was jus asking cuz I'm always seeing "my girls are not flowering yet" n it's normally cuz they have n outside light on
Urhighness88
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Really?! How many plant was it able to disperse light to?
nova1992
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hey if you can find the link for what kind of light or similar you had can you message it to me please??
SoCal88
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I had it shining on 6 plants. They were all side by side in one row. The lights were positioned along the edge of my patio cover. It was approx. 8- 10 feet from the plant to the closest light.. Hope this helps you !!! Here's a link to the light.... http://www.homedepot.com/p/Hampton-Bay-Outdoor-Black-Spot-Solar-LED-Lights-3-Pack-79778/202352425?N=12l1Z12l0#.Ui5CXujn9tQ
Jimmy Luffnan
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I actually really like SoCal88's method *claps* ^^
Even though most outdoor solar panels/garden lighting are tweaked to come on right on dusk when things are getting just a little too dark, it would be effective even if it only last 3-4 hours min.
It wont be giving your plants any vegetative growth I dont think, but as long as it keeps the veg chemistry happening till the next day.. its a great idea *nods*
On the side of a patio would work well, though I must admit it would look funny having lights going in the middle of nowhere in the night to any nosy guests.... and there is a high possibility that Mulder & Scully will rock up to investigate a possible alien contact
I like the theory
Cheers Jimmy.