Using Potash and Garden lime and epsom salts with biobizz All mix?

Agent Provocateur

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Hi Guys,

Im starting my second grow and wondered if it would be beneficial to add Lime and potash and epsom salts to the biobizz allmix when transplanting them to their final pot size before flowering? I ask as when i was in the middle of My first WW grow the plants started to become deficient a little with bronzing leaves that became crispy and dry especially at the bottom of the plant. Would adding any of these be beneficial in keeping a healthy plant and prevent deficiencies from occuring, if so in what quantity would be best?

Many thanks

Agent xx
 

Agent Provocateur

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Aww 28 views and no one got a comment, surely someones got their 2 penny's worth to throw in :P cummon now dont be shy surely its not a total blonde question? lol :D
 

Agent Provocateur

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Yup started using epson salts on last grow but probably introduced them too late when deficiency had taken hold so will use sooner this time any advice on the potash or lime or would it make the medium too hot? Personally havent got a scooby doo on dosages or whether to bother at all just an idea and would like to know if anyone else has used it in their soil to good effect?

tyvm :D
 

Spanishfly

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Didn´t I just respond to this thread under another forum????????? Why post the same thing multiple times???
 

Wetdog

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Powdered dolomite lime, ~2tbl/gallon of mix, or 1 cup/cf of mix. Make this a priority.

Epsom Salts, ~1/2 cup/cf of mix, or can be dissolved and added as needed. No more than 3x/grow.

Potash, I can't answer, there are several in various strengths. What does the label say?

Wet
 

mrmaddu

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what about in flowering too late to worry about ph? thinking of using some lime to help with ph runs around 7.6
 

Agent Provocateur

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Powdered dolomite lime, ~2tbl/gallon of mix, or 1 cup/cf of mix. Make this a priority.

Epsom Salts, ~1/2 cup/cf of mix, or can be dissolved and added as needed. No more than 3x/grow.

Potash, I can't answer, there are several in various strengths. What does the label say?

Wet

Sulphate of potash- Potassium Oxide K2O 48.0% (39.9%K) (J. Arthur Bowers ) Recommended uses Feeding flowering plants, fruit treesetc When to use -scatter 35g/m2 evenly around plants and hoe in repeat 1-2 during grow season light soils may need top dressing more frequently- You may say i've answered my own question but my only uncertainty is i believe this is meant for established bushes/trees and not a semi-mature marijuana plant so was asking what quantity others use it in MJ growing and how long to let it 'sit' in the soil for prior to transplanting plants to their final pots.

The lime i bought ( again J. Arthur Bowers ) doesnt say Dolomite lime per se just garden lime acidity regulator. Analysis- Screened Limestone- neutralising value 45%Total passing through 150 micron sieve 20% - So is this brand ok to use or have i got the wrong type? although this is the only thing the garden centre had that came close to saying dolomite lime lol again do i have to let this stuff 'sit' for a while in the compost mix to stop burning of roots etc?

Many thanks :D
 

quietguy420

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Im using 3 ounces of sulfate of potash per 5 gallons of water every week with my new organic lineup. I give a good dose of plain water in between every feeding.
 

Agent Provocateur

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Im using 3 ounces of sulfate of potash per 5 gallons of water every week with my new organic lineup. I give a good dose of plain water in between every feeding.

Do you mix any into the soil prior to planting or just add it to water with one dose as stated per week?

Thanks :D
 

quietguy420

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I'm using liquid extract filtered through #50 screen so i just mix it in with the other liquid food when I feed once a week. Its 0,0,8 strength.
 

Wetdog

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Hmm this is powdered form for soil, really not sure what to do with it now or whether it is too strong lol.
That sounds kind of strong. Be very easy with it.

Garden lime is Ok. It's not going to burn your roots unless you drastically over apply it. Hydrated can burn, but we don't mess with that.

Wet
 

woodsmaneh!

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IMHO Agent

Why do you think you need lime? You growing in sand or clay?

As for adding the other stuff, it's all good but it's a crap shoot too. You use to much of one thing and you lock out other things. I believe in the KISS method. It's much easier to prevent the problem than to treat it.

First issue I have is with the lime, it is hot, that means it will burn your roots if they come in direct contact. Yes I can hear them all now saying bla bla but that does not make it right. Show me published proof that you use it when you plant or during the growing cycle.

Lime is meant to be put in the ground and aged for months, this gives it time to brake down. Use Worm castings you can just toss them in the soil won't damage any thing and are better.

If you go to any site about using it you will find

http://www.allotment.org.uk/fertilizer/garden-lime.php

Never Mix Lime and Fertilizer If you have ever had a pee (slightly acid) into a toilet with bleach (very alkaline) in it, you will have noticed there is an unpleasant reaction, Just the same if you mix your lime and fertilizer. They will at best cancel each other out in an unpleasant, to the soil, reaction.

So never lime in the same year you fertilize if you can avoid it and certainly not in the same couple of months.

http://www.vegetable-gardening-gnomes.com/garden_lime.html

Liming while plants are growing may harm those plants, so wait until after the garden season. It is best to add garden lime in the fall and let it break down over the winter. Planting two to three months later will allow the soil pH to adjust.
Lime (which is alkaline) and fertilizer (which is acidic) do not play well together, so add them to the soil at different times. The exceptions are manure or organic matter. These can also be added and worked in during the fall or winter.


If you would like to just water your plants and add nothing let me know, it's very easy and you don't need to age the soil.

Peace and positive vibes your way
 
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