Using an HPS bulb for vegetative growth.

So, I know that the general consensus is that you should use an MH bulb for vegetative growth but I started doing some research about using an HPS bulb for vegetative growth out of curiosity and came across some interesting things. The following was taken from Ed Rosenthal's "Marijuana Grower's Handbook":

MH lamps are the type of lamp used outdoors to illuminate sports events because they emit a white light. They were originally promoted as the light to use during the vegetative stage of plant growth, before the plants are forced to flower. But now it is generally recognized that plants grow as well vegetatively under HPS lamps as under MH, so they are not used that much because they emit less total light than HPS lamps and produce lower yields.

I found that to be very interesting. I also came across the following article for those who interested. http://www.hightimes.com/read/grow-hack-does-switching-metal-halides-hps-flowering-work. I don't know if hightimes has a bad reputation for poor article validity but there is any validity to it then I think there's enough information here for me to start being interested in this. I think Ed Rosenthal's word has more than enough merit I'm in the middle of my first grow ever and I've always been one willing to try new things. I have a couple of extra HPS bulbs laying around waiting for when it's time to flower. I'm thinking of giving this a shot. What do you guys think?
 

kmog33

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Yeah hps will work for sure. There are better spectrums for veg. But when it comes to light output per watt. Unless you want to diy led, you're not going to do much better.


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FoilageTrees

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Yeah hps will work for sure. There are better spectrums for veg. But when it comes to light output per watt. Unless you want to diy led, you're not going to do much better.


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are you talking about cob led, thats good for veg?
 

kmog33

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That looks crazy how many weeks veg? And are cobs worth building for like a 200 watt setup or only worth for bigger grows?
Those were under 100watts Cree cxa3070. Totally worth it depending on your space. And those were at week 5.


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FoilageTrees

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Those were under 100watts Cree cxa3070. Totally worth it depending on your space. And those were at week 5.


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I knew that these lights preformed amazing in flower but didnt know they did so well in veg. How many 100watts did you put on your light panel, or did you build it a different way?
 

kmog33

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I knew that these lights preformed amazing in flower but didnt know they did so well in veg. How many 100watts did you put on your light panel, or did you build it a different way?
It is 4 cxa 3070s at 700ma. About 25 watts each.



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ttystikk

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I've run HPS in veg for years, it works to make the plant stretch and get tall.

I'm running COB LED now in part of my veg and they're outperforming everything else I've ever used for the task, MH, HPS, T5 included.

I've high hopes for the COB LED array I'm building for bloom.
 

FoilageTrees

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I've run HPS in veg for years, it works to make the plant stretch and get tall.

I'm running COB LED now in part of my veg and they're outperforming everything else I've ever used for the task, MH, HPS, T5 included.

I've high hopes for the COB LED array I'm building for bloom.
how many watts of cobs you running and what diodes?
 

ttystikk

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how many watts of cobs you running and what diodes?
Every chip is a CXB3590 3500K, running at 54W for 56% efficiency. Four chips to a module. Two modules are overhead in my veg and they're kicking ass. 24 more modules are being built into a vertical rack. Updates in my thread, link in my signature line.
 
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