US_SHAME! Georgia Tech student shot dead by police

vostok

Well-Known Member
University police in the US state of Georgia have shot and killed an LGBT student activist, sparking an inquiry.

Police encountered Scout Schultz, 21, outside a campus dormitory in Atlanta after a call about

"a person with a knife and a gun" late on Saturday.

Video shows Schultz refusing to obey police commands, and advancing on them.

A family lawyer said Schultz was holding a closed multi-tool.

The student's parents said police should not have used lethal force.

"Why did you have to shoot?" the victim's father said at an emotional news conference on Monday

"That's the question, I mean that's the only question that matters right now. Why did you kill my son?"

What happened to Schultz?
In a video filmed by a fellow student at the Georgia Institute of Technology, Schultz is pictured outside the

entrance to a parking garage and can be heard saying "

Shoot me!" several times while walking towards the officers.

"Drop the knife, man, come on," a police officer responds.

"Nobody wants to hurt you," another says, before one officer eventually opens fire, hitting Schultz in the chest.

Schultz did not appear to be holding a gun, investigators said, despite what had initially been reported to police.

The computer engineering student from Lilburn, Georgia, was transported to the Grady Memorial Hospital,

later dying from injuries sustained in the shooting, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation (GBI) said.


Schultz's mother noted that the engineering student (pictured) was very active on campus

Why did police open fire?
Police in the US are permitted - and often required - to use lethal force against any suspect

who they believe presents an immediate danger to officers or members of the community.

Officers must have a "reasonable belief" that an individual is capable of committing violence,

in order to fire on them.

Exact figures for police shootings vary widely, since police forces are not required

to submit incidents to the FBI for data collection.

But according to the Washington Post, which tracks civilian deaths at the hands of police,

nearly 1,000 people were killed across the country in 2015.

No police officers from the Georgia Tech Police Department (GTPD) were injured in Saturday night's incident,

the schools' police force has said. The officer who opened fire has not been named.

Georgia Tech's campus police do not carry Tasers, but are equipped with pepper spray.

School representatives say it was probably the first on-campus police shooting in the past 20 years, if ever.

Who was Scout Schultz?
Schultz - who identified as intersex and preferred to be referred to by the pronoun "they" -

was the president of the Pride Alliance at Georgia Tech, and was politically active in progressive causes.

"We are all deeply saddened by what has occurred," the group said in a statement.

"They have been the driving force behind Pride Alliance for the past two years," the group said.

"They pushed us to do more events and a larger variety [of] events."

Schultz's mother Lynne said Scout, who was born Scott Schultz, had numerous medical issues,

suffered from depression and had attempted suicide two years ago.

"Why didn't they [police] use some nonlethal force, like pepper spray or Tasers?"

she told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.


Scout Schultz was the president of the Pride Alliance at the Georgia Institute of Technology

What reaction has there been?
A lawyer for Schultz's parents, Chris Stewart, said the blade on the folding multi-tool that Schultz

was allegedly holding was not open, and noted that it appears in the video that Schultz

never ran towards police.

"I just don't understand how they couldn't have Tasers," Mr Stewart said,

adding that he thinks Schultz was "having a mental breakdown and didn't know what to do".

The student's parents William and Lynne Schultz said that they were performing well in school,

but suggested that their school workload may have contributed to their mental condition.

Mr Stewart added: "People just breakdown. That's doesn't mean they deserve to die."

"The area was secured. There was no one around at risk,"

the lawyer said, questioning whether the university police had received sufficient training

to deal with suspects with mental health issues.

Georgia Tech said it was "deeply saddened" by what had happened.

(http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41302571)
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
America's reaction tonight;

'ho hum, another police killing...

A transexual? Prolly deserved it...

Cop will get paid vacation until it blows over... even if he's charged, he'll get off.

Next?'


MY reaction; 1000 police shootings a year, that's three a day- when the fuck is this country going to wake up to the insanity?!
 

mr sunshine

Well-Known Member
America's reaction tonight;

'ho hum, another police killing...

A transexual? Prolly deserved it...

Cop will get paid vacation until it blows over... even if he's charged, he'll get off.

Next?'


MY reaction; 1000 police shootings a year, that's three a day- when the fuck is this country going to wake up to the insanity?!
After American ninja warrior....
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
University police in the US state of Georgia have shot and killed an LGBT student activist, sparking an inquiry.

Police encountered Scout Schultz, 21, outside a campus dormitory in Atlanta after a call about

"a person with a knife and a gun" late on Saturday.

Video shows Schultz refusing to obey police commands, and advancing on them.

A family lawyer said Schultz was holding a closed multi-tool.

The student's parents said police should not have used lethal force.

"Why did you have to shoot?" the victim's father said at an emotional news conference on Monday

"That's the question, I mean that's the only question that matters right now. Why did you kill my son?"

What happened to Schultz?
In a video filmed by a fellow student at the Georgia Institute of Technology, Schultz is pictured outside the

entrance to a parking garage and can be heard saying "

Shoot me!" several times while walking towards the officers.

"Drop the knife, man, come on," a police officer responds.

"Nobody wants to hurt you," another says, before one officer eventually opens fire, hitting Schultz in the chest.

Schultz did not appear to be holding a gun, investigators said, despite what had initially been reported to police.

The computer engineering student from Lilburn, Georgia, was transported to the Grady Memorial Hospital,

later dying from injuries sustained in the shooting, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation (GBI) said.


Schultz's mother noted that the engineering student (pictured) was very active on campus

Why did police open fire?
Police in the US are permitted - and often required - to use lethal force against any suspect

who they believe presents an immediate danger to officers or members of the community.

Officers must have a "reasonable belief" that an individual is capable of committing violence,

in order to fire on them.

Exact figures for police shootings vary widely, since police forces are not required

to submit incidents to the FBI for data collection.

But according to the Washington Post, which tracks civilian deaths at the hands of police,

nearly 1,000 people were killed across the country in 2015.

No police officers from the Georgia Tech Police Department (GTPD) were injured in Saturday night's incident,

the schools' police force has said. The officer who opened fire has not been named.

Georgia Tech's campus police do not carry Tasers, but are equipped with pepper spray.

School representatives say it was probably the first on-campus police shooting in the past 20 years, if ever.

Who was Scout Schultz?
Schultz - who identified as intersex and preferred to be referred to by the pronoun "they" -

was the president of the Pride Alliance at Georgia Tech, and was politically active in progressive causes.

"We are all deeply saddened by what has occurred," the group said in a statement.

"They have been the driving force behind Pride Alliance for the past two years," the group said.

"They pushed us to do more events and a larger variety [of] events."

Schultz's mother Lynne said Scout, who was born Scott Schultz, had numerous medical issues,

suffered from depression and had attempted suicide two years ago.

"Why didn't they [police] use some nonlethal force, like pepper spray or Tasers?"

she told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.


Scout Schultz was the president of the Pride Alliance at the Georgia Institute of Technology

What reaction has there been?
A lawyer for Schultz's parents, Chris Stewart, said the blade on the folding multi-tool that Schultz

was allegedly holding was not open, and noted that it appears in the video that Schultz

never ran towards police.

"I just don't understand how they couldn't have Tasers," Mr Stewart said,

adding that he thinks Schultz was "having a mental breakdown and didn't know what to do".

The student's parents William and Lynne Schultz said that they were performing well in school,

but suggested that their school workload may have contributed to their mental condition.

Mr Stewart added: "People just breakdown. That's doesn't mean they deserve to die."

"The area was secured. There was no one around at risk,"

the lawyer said, questioning whether the university police had received sufficient training

to deal with suspects with mental health issues.

Georgia Tech said it was "deeply saddened" by what had happened.

(http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41302571)
they Baker Act folks like that in Florida. How about a shot in a non-lethal area of his body? I KNOW they were taught this in training.
 

chemphlegm

Well-Known Member
disobeying a cop with a pointed gun takes balls no?

cops shouldnt be shooting the mentally ill.
suicide by cop is how this will go down.
 
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Stiickygreen

Well-Known Member
Such a threat. Like your DOG is a "threat" to these fuckheads when they come in YOUR yard in uninvited mode. They was SCARED...ya know? So killing is OK.

Isn't facing threats what THIS JOB IS ABOUT?

Where are the snipers, dammit? Those cops should be bloodstains on the concrete...exactly the same way they left this dude. Fuckers.
 

greg nr

Well-Known Member
Cops are trained to shoot center-of-mass, they aren't taught to wound.
They CAN be taught differently. They have less lethal alternatives like bean bags. They have the option to back up and defuse the situation.

But they are taught to escalate the use of force until they have control over the situation, even if that means killing.

And they are taught to not only shoot center mass, but to keep firing until the target stops moving.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
Cops are trained to shoot center-of-mass, they aren't taught to wound.
The State of Florida Baker Acts 200,000 citizens every year..they don't shoot them.

Somehow, someway, they are subdued..imho, they had plenty of time to think about how to handle a kid with what may have been a small knife or weapon of some sort.

Cops Grade: F-

They didn't even try.
 
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chemphlegm

Well-Known Member
They CAN be taught differently. They have less lethal alternatives like bean bags. They have the option to back up and defuse the situation.

But they are taught to escalate the use of force until they have control over the situation, even if that means killing.

And they are taught to not only shoot center mass, but to keep firing until the target stops moving.
so it would appear they did they're job to exact specs?
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
America's reaction tonight;

'ho hum, another police killing...

A transexual? Prolly deserved it...

Cop will get paid vacation until it blows over... even if he's charged, he'll get off.

Next?'


MY reaction; 1000 police shootings a year, that's three a day- when the fuck is this country going to wake up to the insanity?!
when the gun lobby lets us..or we can put an end to lobby..big pharma, big health. They (MOP) own us- now THIS is our opportunity to break free- single payer/medicare for all etc.

this is our ONE chance..what do we do with? squander it?

In case you haven't noticed, Hillary is waiting around the corner in the milk section at Costco..hasn't ruled out 'questioning Trump's legit'..she's waiting for someone to say..'if we only had Hillary'..because she's ready to come back..she's on her 'coax me back' tour..because it's really your (her) idea for her to make a comeback.

If we do that though, everything we have suffered with Trump will have been for naught.
 
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vostok

Well-Known Member
Cops are trained to shoot center-of-mass, they aren't taught to wound.
in a'free society investigators would be looking at

"..after a call about, "a person with a knife and a gun" late on Saturday."

and naturally charging ...even succeeding with a manslaughter charge on those 2 cops

a similar situation occurs weekly back east the only easy excuse for the cop was he was drunk at the time ..lol
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
when the gun lobby lets us..or we can put an end to lobby..big pharma, big health. They (MOP) own us- now THIS is our opportunity to break free- single payer/medicare for all etc.

this is our ONE chance..what do we do with? squander it?

In case you haven't noticed, Hillary is waiting around the corner in the milk section at Costco..hasn't ruled out 'questioning Trump's legit'..she's waiting for someone to say..'if we only had Hillary'..because she's ready to come back..she's on her 'coax me back' tour..because it's really your (her) idea for her to make a comeback.

If we do that though, everything we have suffered with Trump will have been for naught.
The NRA is gearing up for a push to legalize silencers without permits.

And for guns to be allowed in bars.

What could possibly go wrong?
 

Stroker

Well-Known Member
Anyone with a knife should not have to die! Shoot him in the nards with a bean bag, that would probably chill him.
 

vostok

Well-Known Member
Anyone with a knife should not have to die! Shoot him in the nards with a bean bag, that would probably chill him.
if the stats are correct there will be another police (legal) murder along ....shortly

but whether it gets announced to the press is another story ...lol
 
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