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Unconventional Organics

Discussion in 'Organics' started by malignant, Jul 12, 2012.

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    DANKSWAG

    DANKSWAG Well-Known Member

    I use low fat milk with acidophilus added with 10 parts rainwater as foliar to rid and prevent powdery mildew.
    Then what I don't drink that spoils goes to compost.

    DankSwag
     
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    dankesthours182

    dankesthours182 Well-Known Member

    Are you serious?
     
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    dankesthours182

    dankesthours182 Well-Known Member

    And this tops it, best part of the forums is right here, where it turns out we are growing our top shelf on dead puppies and piss, mostly
     
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    dankesthours182

    dankesthours182 Well-Known Member

    And also our afterbirths. This is awesome - I almost wish I didn't really think so, but it's true;
    life feeds on life
     
    Last edited: May 25, 2017
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    dankesthours182

    dankesthours182 Well-Known Member

    Could I use this in my dwc buckets for hydro
     
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    dankesthours182

    dankesthours182 Well-Known Member

    My cats love a good 30/30/30 mix of rested tap water, filtered tap and tap, I read they like the chlorine, I think it helps mitigate the high levels of bacteria they would otherwise be using to digest raw food and associated bacteria. But just a theory, I like a little chlorine too sometimes

    I really am dying to get a fish tank to try fishganics haha aquaponics!
     
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    Johnei

    Johnei Well-Known Member

    One of the ingredients I use in my soil mix that I've been reusing for about 10 years now is when adding some ammendments back to the soil after a crop, I add organic hulled hemp seeds to the soil. :D
     
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    CaptainSnap

    CaptainSnap Member

    Anyone ever use or see cherry stones for chicken grit? Claims on the bag it's perfect for container areation. However I saw aluminum oxide was at 3 to 4 percent! I'm trying to get away from perlite when I recycle my soil.
     
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    MrKnotty

    MrKnotty Active Member

    Hello fellow microbe nerds! Just thought I share some cool stuff I did this run. First is fermenting cannabis plants. Every time I topped I saved them, and fermented them. Plants absolutely loved when I fed the soil this concoction. I also fermented cannabis flowers that I cleaned out from the middle of my plants after they have been flipped for a month. Haven't used that one yet, but will when my outdoor goes into flower. Also dandelions are amazing to ferment. The ladies love those dandelion microbes when they are in flower! And for any other northern California residents, I fermented Star Thistle this year for veg. AMAZING! Try it next year and will be so happy you did!!!! Peace
     
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    cannetix Inc

    cannetix Inc Well-Known Member

    I've experimented with organic vegetable glycerine (Glycerol) as a foliar spray with interesting results. According to the following story from Penn State Universities' news department, Glycerol "is easily absorbed by the leaves where it converts to a bioactive form known as glycerol 3-phosphate (G3P) which then reacts with a fatty acid species called oleic acid and changes the fatty acid profile of the cells."

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    Long story short, in some model plant species, certain types of glycerol-related fatty acids appear to trigger plants defense mechanisms protecting plants against various pests including powdery mildew and is 100% flavourless & odorless so is safe to use on buds upto 2 weeks pre-harvest in my personal experience.
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    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24863347 Application of glycerol as a foliar spray activates the defense response and enhances disease resistance of Theobroma cacao.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5030236/
    Application of Glycerol for Induced Powdery Mildew Resistance in Triticum aestivum L.
     
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    Chunky Stool

    Chunky Stool Well-Known Member

    Chitin also triggers plant defense mechanisms. Insect frass, bat guano, crab shell, etc...
     
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    DonTesla

    DonTesla Well-Known Member

    If Anyone has links to where to buy Prime Nutrients aka Better World insect frass please share cause that brand did wayyyy better than these last couple I have found.. Not a huge fan of plain mealworm frass etc but better world had amazing results.. I'd love to start making frass however they do it, cause it was gram for gram way more impressive.
    Thanks all!
     
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    Fastslappy

    Fastslappy Well-Known Member

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    Stuff I get is soldier fly frass good shit
     
    Last edited: Oct 22, 2017
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    Chunky Stool

    Chunky Stool Well-Known Member

    Does NPK vary between brands? The stuff I use is 2-2-2, but I have no clue what they fed the insects.
    Hell I don't even know what kind of insect pooped it out... :eyesmoke:
     
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    Fastslappy

    Fastslappy Well-Known Member

    Some has more protein (insect parts ) but yeah what they eat , some r fed slaughter house bone to clean ,that hi protein stuff , if u get June bugs that cover sidewalks they r frass too
     
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    DonTesla

    DonTesla Well-Known Member

    Crickets and mealworms are lower grade, I think. The soldier flies are a step up I do believe. Are there any fungal numbers to go with that Synergy brand by chance @Fastslappy
     
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    Fastslappy

    Fastslappy Well-Known Member

    NO The Owner Is a pro @ making tea machines the size of pick up trucks
     
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    Love Headies

    Love Headies Member

    I actually tried crushed walnut shells instead of perlite this time. It did make the soil much lighter and gave my worms some grit at the same time. From what I understand they also contain nutrients when broken down.
     
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    Love Headies

    Love Headies Member

    Speaking of meal worms I have been adding frass from Super Worms. They are much larger than meal worms and they come in fine wood chips. Once my Bearded Dragon is done eating the super worms I add the crap to my compost. I know that super worms are high in Phosphorus so I would assume so is there crap. Maybe it would be good to add a decent amount during flower.
     
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    Michiganjesse

    Michiganjesse Well-Known Member

    I thought most peeps knew there stuff on here
     

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