Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas

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leese

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Hi Uncle Ben,

Thank you so much for sharing your technique, I am really learning so much!

This is a great thread! I just got to post # 1000. Good Stuff!
I can't stay long. I have to get back to reading this thread.
I just wanted to say Thank You!

I am a newbie to growing, and I am doing my best to learn as much as I can.
My first two bag seed plants are just days away from harvest with milky white trichomes.
And no, I am not flushing, so I can do a partial harvest as the buds ripen, and maybe reveg.
Thank you for that tidbit of info, also.

I have another bag seed plant that I just performed the Uncle Ben Technique on yesterday.
Here is a copy and paste from my grow log:

10/14/11 lights: flower room 12/12@1000w hps, veg room 18/6@250w mh, wash room vacant
- 11a flower room: roof 96.6 @ 20 %, canopy 92, veg room 87, lumatek 130, iat 73
- angel has 4 new nodes growing out of sides of original 2nd nodes
- angel's new nodes each have 3 leaves as big as original single 2nd node leaf
- all this in 25 hours from the cut! Thank You Uncle Ben!

Here are some pics Angel just 25 hours later:

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And here is a pic of Angel in the veg room.
You can see her top in the rooting tub to the left.
And lastly, a shot of the flower room.

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OK, Enough goofing off for me. I have to get back to my reading.

Thank You Uncle Ben, And Thank You Born2KillSpam.

leese
 

AWnox

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Hello everyone, thank you first of all to Uncle Ben for this essential thread, definitely a must read for all inspiring growers out there. I do though have a question about topping if anyone has any thoughts...

I am currently growing Kalashnikova from GH; so far very bushy plant with a lot of inner branches and only 5 inches tall and 17 days old (since she was put in the WF). It has 5 nodes (not counting the already perished cotyledons) and it's 6th node is emerging and is about 1/2 inch tall. The latest developed node (5th) has a full 7 leafs. My query is just where should I top to have 2 main tops and if you would consider this beneficial taking into account the already developed heavy branching from the lower nodes. As you can probably tell this is my first grow and I know I am over thinking things but that's something in my nature I can't turn off unfortunately. In any case I want the maximum yield for my space (20x32x61) without compromising quality. That being said I ask if I should even consider topping because the Klashnikova is doing surprisingly well despite all the grow reports I've read so far, she is branching out tremendously, some of the lower node branches are catching up with the main stalk already, for 17 days she seems huge compared to most grows here on RIU and the nutes are right on point (450ppm today), she's drinking a lot of water and ppm's have remained the same or lower so I don't know how topping her might affect her and if it's really worth it my first time around you know? I do plan to SCROG in the near future (next 10-15 days) and I know that some grows that use WF's have not topped and still were able to SCROG and had a very positive result so... thus my pondering and this post. Any info or advice anyone wants to share by all means do my friends. Thanks again for the great thread Uncle Ben.
 

Garcia Vega

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Uncle Ben's technique is phenomenal, however I have a quick question?
The UB technique was applied to 9 female plants (2 Purple Haze, 2 Vanilla Kush, 2 Tangerine Dream, 2 LSD, 1 Critical Jack) at the 2nd true node as to get the 4 colas displayed in the pictures.

Now this is my first time trying the Uncle Ben technique, and although it has provided a great sling-shot affect with 2 colas, I did not get any females with 4 colas. They are 2 weeks into flower and looking super, but I would love to have the 4 colas.

Is there any advice, or pointer as to why pinching at the 2nd node would not result in 4 colas, but 2 colas????
Please help with info or feedback, thanks!
 

Uncle Ben

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Uncle Ben's technique is phenomenal, however I have a quick question?
The UB technique was applied to 9 female plants (2 Purple Haze, 2 Vanilla Kush, 2 Tangerine Dream, 2 LSD, 1 Critical Jack) at the 2nd true node as to get the 4 colas displayed in the pictures.

Now this is my first time trying the Uncle Ben technique, and although it has provided a great sling-shot affect with 2 colas, I did not get any females with 4 colas. They are 2 weeks into flower and looking super, but I would love to have the 4 colas.

Is there any advice, or pointer as to why pinching at the 2nd node would not result in 4 colas, but 2 colas????
Please help with info or feedback, thanks!
Sounds like the auxins have primarily collected in the upper colas, terminal tips. Mama nature's way regarding apical dominance - the top rules, laterals get the leftovers. You will get 4 colas but more than likely the top 2 will be dominant and larger.

Focus on producing the most root and foliage mass and retaining it until harvest. Hint - Bloom foods are not your friend.

Have fun,
UB
 

T Ray

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fdd2blk, you are are fucking retard
What does this have to do with Uncle Ben's topping technique? I think your comment was not needed and in the wrong thread bro. Unless you have something to ask about this technique I think you need to keep your negativity to yourself and stay off this thread. This thread/technique is very informative for people who actually want to learn a thing or two.
 

Uncle Ben

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ban me then.. tired ffd2blk fucking this site up with his stupid childish shit. read back 10 pages where he intentionallly gives stupid info to fuck up peoples grows. what mission is he on? If anyone here had any sense they would boot that morons ass out of here. the wind is whistling threw the door of this srte with people leaving and its his fault along with all the trolls on here. I make no apologies for telling it like it is... later
The fuck up has been dealt with, months ago by admin. If you want a clean thread to where I as mod can take out the trash, go here - http://riddlem3.com/index.php/topic,1106.0.html
 

T Ray

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I can't ban you. I have no authority. I have no problem with you hashing it out with whoever, but I would say if your going to say something like you did that you should of quoted what it was you were saying it to. Calling someone a "fucking retard" w/out any example of why they are, makes you look like...well you get it.

Plus your drumming up shit from months ago bro.
 

boneheadbob

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I waited untill about 6 weeks and my plants were about a foot tall. Instead of topping I just pinched the very top part of the new growth.

It grew out crazy twisted leafs and lots of bud sites although it seemed to take a long time to grow back out
 

AWnox

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UncleBen if and when possible may you please take a look at my post in the previous page? Would really appreciate your feedback. Thank you for your time.

Have a good day everyone.
 

smoke n strum

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I can't ban you. I have no authority. I have no problem with you hashing it out with whoever, but I would say if your going to say something like you did that you should of quoted what it was you were saying it to. Calling someone a "fucking retard" w/out any example of why they are, makes you look like...well you get it.

Plus your drumming up shit from months ago bro.
I've been out of the loop for awhile bro.. didnt mean to piss in your cornflakes.. sns
 

boneheadbob

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I never thought of fdd as a f n retard. More of a dickhead with mad skills.
This will probaly be someones sig like the last time :hump:
No disrespect meant fdd, Im a dickhead too, better a dickhead then a ahole is what I tell em.
 

Garcia Vega

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Sounds like the auxins have primarily collected in the upper colas, terminal tips. Mama nature's way regarding apical dominance - the top rules, laterals get the leftovers. You will get 4 colas but more than likely the top 2 will be dominant and larger.

Focus on producing the most root and foliage mass and retaining it until harvest. Hint - Bloom foods are not your friend.

Have fun,
UB

"Focus on producing the most root and foliage mass and retaining it until harvest. Hint - Bloom foods are not your friend."
When you say Bloom foods are not your friend are you meaning during Veg Stage or do you mean once the light cycle changes? The Hint is truly appreciated, but I just need a little bit more clarity as why…

Also if you don't mind explaining how I could over-power mother nature and possible push more of the auxins into the bottom 2 cola branches? Have you had this issue before and how did you strengthen up the bottom 2 colas?


Thanks so Much Uncle Ben!!!
 

boneheadbob

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You dont need to give cannabis high amounts of Phosphorous during 12/12.
I would tell what to use but uncle ben would banish me from riddleme. You will have to go back a few pages and start routing information to your brain. As a matter of fact I would delete that question before you start reading and before UB gets back
 

AWnox

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What exactly is your question?
Basically it's if it's worth topping a plant that is super bushy and that I've never topped before or had experiences with specially since it's doing so good now and growing so fast? I don't wanna mess up something that's good you know. So would it be worth it you think?
 
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