Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas

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bearkat42

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This is, by far, the single greatest thread I've ever read on this subject, Hands down! I can't stop reading! Thanks to everyone participating (Obviously, especially Uncle Ben!). :leaf:
 

Chargermane

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[video=youtube;cB5K8HgbBmI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB5K8HgbBmI[/video]

my first and only run in my 3x3 tent, I use it to veg my plants now... I think I got around 9 or 10 oz from that run the video was made halfway through budding...all the plants were 12/12 from seeds, 9 plants. If you are to veg them you could easily veg 4 plants and flip in that space using the topping method. I say 4 because its much easier to fill a square with a square number of plants, its hard to get the same coverage with 3 plants.

12/12 from seeds and you got 10 oz? Not too shabby. What kind of light did you have? I just got the solar storm 800w LED. Question though. Wouldn't 3 plants instead of 4 mean better light penetration? Less crowding no?
 

GreenSanta

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12/12 from seeds and you got 10 oz? Not too shabby. What kind of light did you have? I just got the solar storm 800w LED. Question though. Wouldn't 3 plants instead of 4 mean better light penetration? Less crowding no?
the idea with LEDs is to have a 1 foot thick even canopy, 1 foot below the tops of a thick foliage will still yield nice frosty buds anything lower will have to go in the hash pile. My best plant 12/12 from seed was my Agent Orange yielded 5.5 oz, look up my other youtube video, the plant is featured many time in it but it's the last plant in the video as well.

The key to successful 12/12 from seed grow is to use hybrid (heavy indicas are ok but I find hybrid or sativas to perform better) is TO TRANSPLANT EARLY into a big container, from seedling right into a 7 gallons with organic supersoil at the bottom diluted solution with the upper third plain promix. I sometimes transplant few days old seedling when I have the room for it.

I invite you to go trough my journal I was moving away from 12/12 from seed for a while but I am starting to do more again, link in my signature.

[video=youtube;c-_yHBHupCs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-_yHBHupCs[/video]
 

Chargermane

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the idea with LEDs is to have a 1 foot thick even canopy, 1 foot below the tops of a thick foliage will still yield nice frosty buds anything lower will have to go in the hash pile. My best plant 12/12 from seed was my Agent Orange yielded 5.5 oz, look up my other youtube video, the plant is featured many time in it but it's the last plant in the video as well.

The key to successful 12/12 from seed grow is to use hybrid (heavy indicas are ok but I find hybrid or sativas to perform better) is TO TRANSPLANT EARLY into a big container, from seedling right into a 7 gallons with organic supersoil at the bottom diluted solution with the upper third plain promix. I sometimes transplant few days old seedling when I have the room for it.
I invite you to go trough my journal I was moving away from 12/12 from seed for a while but I am starting to do more again, link in my signature.

[video=youtube;c-_yHBHupCs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-_yHBHupCs[/video]
Those look tasty boss! And thats all in soil too. So if you did dwc hydro you'd get a lot more there huh? The 12/12 from seed sounds very interesting. But its my first hydro grow and first grow in a long time. I want to see how much I can get off these plants with some vegging time. Ill be doing the strain called shoreline. I will do the 4 plants in my 3x3 tent. Im just worried if I do UB's topping method on those 4 plants there won't be enought room in the 3x3
 

Wreched75

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Hey guys and UB. First off thank you UB for providing us with wealth of knowledge!!!! I've been a long time lurker cuz I'm a noob I've finally managed to get my seeds going and not mess up..... Not to bad I hope. I am pretty sure this question came up before but trying to sift through all 500+ pages to find it is nearly impossible. So here it is, I burnt my seedlings and they have recovered well, I'm at my 6th node and wanting to top just above the 2nd true node but some are either yellow and wilted or have broken off, would you suggest to still top above the 2nd true node? Thanks again for all the help.
 

simisimis

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You could chose two healthy nodes, top everything above them and prune everything bellow them, and when upcanning bury the pruned stem. It will root ;)
 

Wreched75

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Omg that's freaking genius!!!!! Thanks UB I just post 5210 all I have to say is that is amazing and thank you thank you!!!!! Also thank you simisimis!!! I'll do that and post pics thanks again guys!!!!
 

cannabeast

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Hey Uncle Ben, I've been lurking a long time, but had not dared make a post(to this thread)until now. I don't mean to get off topic, so let me first say that I loved this topping technique and it has been very useful to me. I can not BELIEVE the amount of questions you have gotten repeating the same thing your very simple and straight forward guide describes. I'm impressed with yur patience to deal with these people, and admire that you take the time to respond anyway. I have been reading a lot last night, and wanted to ask you a question. I'm interested in your genetics. I often hear you refer to the seed pimps and such and them peddling their wares.. I agree...I am interested in what kind of hybrids you have really loved and where I can get my hands on them. Is there somewhere out there where I can get some amazing hybrid? It seems the more I search the net, the more junk is out for sale everyday to confuse my path of finding excellent unique genetics. I tried to send you this by private message but could not figure that out. Perhaps other people are interested in hearing some of your favorite strains(especially the hybrids that have peaked your interest) and where to get them as well, but I didn't think I should make a separate post for this, because I did not know if I would get your attention or not. Forgive my etiquette if I have broken some kind of rule or norm I am not aware of. I usually just lurk around here without posting. Many thanks in advance.
 

Uncle Ben

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12 or so years ago I ordered "old school" genetics, crossed them and have enough beans to last me a life time, this after giving away hundreds.

Don't know how to advise except to order some and then cross what you like and do what I've done - start your own personal seedbank. I have, or had, a lot of faith in The Flying Dutchmen and Sagamartha. Sensi used to be good too.

Happy gardening~
 

cannabeast

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Very interesting. Thank you for such a prompt response, and the advise as well. I bought some Early Durban from the Flying Dutchman years back when I lived in Amsterdam, and did not get a very good crop from it. I lost a bit of faith in them after that, so I have not tried them again. Everything I have grown from Greenhouse seeds, and most but not all of what I grew from Barney's Farm, and Mr. Nice, so I might have to go with them. I like Mr Nice a lot. Nirvana had terrible genetics. Mandala is worthy of mention, I grew just one of their strains, Beyond the Brain, that was the best close-to-sativa that I have grown. 2/10 were super worth keeping for life as clones. I bet there is some good stuff out there to compete with it though, probably many winners in your personal seedbank. I have not grown anything from Sensi or Sagarmatha, but smoked a lot of their grass from coffee shops in Holland, and it was wonderful. I've been wanting to try some of both of their stuff, Especially Sensi, but I've been such a cheapskate, I have not tried them yet. I need to start my own personal seedbank like you suggested. Thank you for the great advise and support to us all here; I really appreciate you. I love your topping method and can really relate to what you said about the plants working for me, not me for the plants, referring Scrog. Scrog is interesting too, but too much work. Do you always plant new seeds, or do you sometimes find one plant that is just extraordinary out of all the seeds you have to grow, and decide to clone it and keep that particular one alive?

Happy Gardening yourself, as well, sir!

Edit: for grammar, spelling, and general flow for brevity.
 

Uncle Ben

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Very interesting. Thank you for such a prompt response, and the advise as well. I bought some Early Durban from the Flying Dutchman years back when I lived in Amsterdam, and did not get a very good crop from it. I lost a bit of faith in them after that, so I have not tried them again. Everything I have grown from Greenhouse seeds, and most but not all of what I grew from Barney's Farm, and Mr. Nice, so I might have to go with them. I like Mr Nice a lot. Nirvana had terrible genetics. Mandala is worthy of mention, I grew just one of their strains, Beyond the Brain, that was the best close-to-sativa that I have grown. 2/10 were super worth keeping for life as clones. I bet there is some good stuff out there to compete with it though, probably many winners in your personal seedbank. I have not grown anything from Sensi or Sagarmatha, but smoked a lot of their grass from coffee shops in Holland, and it was wonderful. I've been wanting to try some of both of their stuff, Especially Sensi, but I've been such a cheapskate, I have not tried them yet. I need to start my own personal seedbank like you suggested. Thank you for the great advise and support to us all here; I really appreciate you. I love your topping method and can really relate to what you said about the plants working for me, not me for the plants, referring Scrog. Scrog is interesting too, but too much work. Do you always plant new seeds, or do you sometimes find one plant that is just extraordinary out of all the seeds you have to grow, and decide to clone it and keep that particular one alive?

Happy Gardening yourself, as well, sir!

Edit: for grammar, spelling, and general flow for brevity.
I prefer popping seeds for the convenience.
 

youknowthekid!

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12 or so years ago I ordered "old school" genetics, crossed them and have enough beans to last me a life time, this after giving away hundreds.

Don't know how to advise except to order some and then cross what you like and do what I've done - start your own personal seedbank. I have, or had, a lot of faith in The Flying Dutchmen and Sagamartha. Sensi used to be good too.

Happy gardening~
Damn Uncle Ben, that's a pretty awesome idea that I've yet to even consider! I've been thinking about buying a few mothers and keeping them for around a year, but why not start a personal bank!

When you cross your favorites how do you do quality control with your newly created seeds? Or do you just pop a ton into soil, chop the shitty pheno's, then gender them before flowering?

To start my collection, if I buy 10 regular Sour D's I'm bound to get both genders; so what then? Pollinate the girls to the fullest, shake 'em down and assume the quality will already be there since they came from a very stable seedbank?
 

Chargermane

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UB I have a question. Say i'm at my 2 week of veg or whenever it is I cut above the 2nd node and I'm at a certain ppms for that week, after I cut it would I go back to a lower level of ppms say if the plant were younger or would it be the same amount? ( doing a dwc grow ) Would that set me back to the 1st week of veg?
 

Uncle Ben

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Damn Uncle Ben, that's a pretty awesome idea that I've yet to even consider! I've been thinking about buying a few mothers and keeping them for around a year, but why not start a personal bank!

When you cross your favorites how do you do quality control with your newly created seeds? Or do you just pop a ton into soil, chop the shitty pheno's, then gender them before flowering?

To start my collection, if I buy 10 regular Sour D's I'm bound to get both genders; so what then? Pollinate the girls to the fullest, shake 'em down and assume the quality will already be there since they came from a very stable seedbank?
Take the best and cross them. Don't make this into some silly thing based on romance and hype.

Most of the kids will grow up to be winners.
 
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