Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas

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cantoniog

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Uncle Ben!

I've read up on so many of your posts, I've learned a lot from you so far.
What things do you do specifically, besides the proper lighting, nutrients, the basics, to promote vigorous root growth?
I'm running 5 gallon dwc buckets with almost 2 week old seedlings in rockwool cubes that sit in hydroton.
Do you add something to your solution? Should I water the hydroton around the rockwool to make the roots reach?
 
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Thedillestpickle said:
I didnt think UB was being mean... just setting you straight on some basics of how to grow a cannabis plant. But please do update us on the progress, I can imagine your method would work in its own way by creating very short plants allowing you to keep the lights very close. I would use flourecents for your technique as it will be even lighting and you can get them right on top of the plants, and I definatey wouldnt go without some veg time as a plant in 12/12 will not veg for very long and little growth will occur between the time you top and the time that flowering begins.
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Yes, as I have very limited space I need very short plants therefore the idea of 12 12. I am using fluorescent for my grow along with LED. I am almost sure I will veg until a week or tow after topping. Topping with UB technique will keep my plants short enough for my grow area. I was never too keen on 12 12 anyway.

Thanks for your input!

BB.
 
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boneheadbob said:
You have exposed yourself as a know it all newbie who is too immature to process constructive criticism. I did not really grasp the issue untill I was about 22. Some people grow old and never get it.

Never allow your feelings to cloud your judgement and do not let people rent space in your head.
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I can accept constructive criticism if offered with the right attitude. I may have exposed myself, as you mentioned, as a "know it all newbie" but I do not consider myself one. I am very humble towards people with more knowledge than me, in general.

I am 40 and honestly I considered myself very inmature until I had kids, they allowed me to grow and mature as a person.

I liked this as I know I did let my feelings cloud my judgement/postings earlier on this thread:

Never allow your feelings to cloud your judgement and do not let people rent space in your head.

Cheers!

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Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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cantoniog said:
What things do you do specifically, besides the proper lighting, nutrients, the basics, to promote vigorous root growth?
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I concentrate on root and foliage production only. If you can grow really great tomatoes and are smart enough to apply those principles to cannabis, you'll do great.

You can manipulate hormonal responses, photoperiods, somewhat without effecting plant vigor, health, and production in a negative way but understand that growing a plant as close to what it's exposed to in its natural environment works best. That means putting it through a vegetative stage so that the phytochrome levels which drives the flowering response has a chance to do its thing. If your cabinet and garden set up is restrictive, then don't grow. Plants are dynamic, they like room to grow one reason why all reflective planes were adjustable with my indoor gardens. As the garden's footprint expanded, I moved the reflective walls outward. This kept the plants bathed in the best reflective light possible.

Soul from the Bros Grimm and I used to battle it out over the vegetative period, what's long enough to produce good yields and potency. He preached that a plant could not reach it's full potential unless there was at least a chronological vegetative age of say..... at least 8 weeks if I remember correctly. He also advised his students that you shouldn't flip to 12/12 until see pre-flowers which he felt was a chronological indicator of plant maturity. He felt that potency was compromised by vegging for a very short period of time. Contrary to what they (Bros. Grimm) practiced and preached, I ALWAYS went to 12/12 within 4 weeks, usually just past 3 weeks from the time a seedling popped the soil's surface. Why? I had no choice, my plants grew/grow too damn fast even with a 7' tall ceiling regarding the light hood restrictions.

There's a balance that must be understood regarding this growing thingie, compromises. Everyone has to learn a program that works best for them, their plants, and stick to it until you master what you're doing.

UB
 
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420Bosco

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Uncle Ben said:
Nice video and such green healthy plants! Also, noted the root tip pruning pots. Smart. Don't know about the rest of your cultural techniques, but I'd say you well on your way to some really nice results!

Good luck,
Uncle Ben
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cheers man, it's my first grow so that comment means a lot, i hope you're right :weed: when do you think would be a good time to super crop them ? or should i bother ?
 
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LOL! Ole Uncle Ben still at it!

There are two types of people that offer "help" on this forum .... one that genuinely wants to help you out, and the other that is just here "helping" in order to get their ego stroked.

Uncle Ben, you are a grumpy old fart with an inflated opinion of yourself. If this is such a chore to answer questions, why are you still here?

Oh that's right, the ego stroking. :-)
 
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hi to everybody! im a beginner and i need proffessional help! 20120316_022303.jpgnow is about 22 cm, is a clone 3 weeks old from cutting.

i will put a screen and she is the first virtually touch the screen.

if i topping what happen? can i?

tanx
 
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Awesome Tech topping after the 2 node... All these topped that way, Going 12/12 tomorrow...
First pic is of OG KUSH X trainwreck, defintley the Sative phenotype. One was topped at 2 node the other is IT's CLONE and just about as big... Pic of blurry (2) blueberry and (2) SLHaze blurry as well. THen C99 female seeds X-line(my fav) and then BLueberry gum... View attachment 2075032View attachment 2075033View attachment 2075035View attachment 2075036
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my blueberry gum grew like shit!!!!!!!! A damn runt!
 
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cary schellie said:
just so you guys know 12/12 from seed is bullshit, dont waste your time, veg plants like ur supposed to. I threw a seedling in my flower room just to see, ITS A WASTE!!!
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The plant vegges itself for like 2-3 weeks even doing 12/12 from seed, so it's not "bullshit" or a "waste" for people doing SOG or who don't care about having high plant numbers.

Its just another technique for a different style of grower, might not suit you but it doesn't make it "bullshit" or a "waste" generally speaking.

As for the guy who asked originally, yes you can top doing 12/12 from seed, it'll probably do away with the crappy lower branches that wont form properly in such a brief veg.

I don't do nor recommend doing 12/12 from seed, but if the key fits...
 
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Harrekin said:
The plant vegges itself for like 2-3 weeks even doing 12/12 from seed, so it's not "bullshit" or a "waste" for people doing SOG or who don't care about having high plant numbers.

Its just another technique for a different style of grower, might not suit you but it doesn't make it "bullshit" or a "waste" generally speaking.

As for the guy who asked originally, yes you can top doing 12/12 from seed, it'll probably do away with the crappy lower branches that wont form properly in such a brief veg.

I don't do nor recommend doing 12/12 from seed, but if the key fits...
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I respect you're entire post to the fullest! Just because a particular format doesn't suit your needs doesn't automatically make it a sin! +rep
 
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