Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas

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Kriegs

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born2killspam said:
+rep for sensibly thinking outside the box on the gender differentiation thing..
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Thanks, man... much appreciated. I have no idea if it will pan out, but it would be huge if it did. My plants showed this character at two weeks, a full two weeks before any (pre)flowers.

Another place to see this is in the FAQ's under sexing -- the fem shown there has this; the male does not. But, no mention in the sexing page about it.. don't even know if the poster noticed it.
 
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Well if you already knew what will happen there wouldn't be much point in experimenting further huh? Thats science in its purest form..
 
Kriegs

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born2killspam said:
Well if you already knew what will happen there wouldn't be much point in experimenting further huh? Thats science in its purest form..
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Well, it's my first grow and I don't feel like I've seen enough to conclude anything. And, it could be a "strain thing" at which point I would think it highly desireable to breed this trait into another strain.

Anyway, here's a couple shots of one of my babes 3 weeks post 12/12, plus a shot of the "swollen node" character on one of these same females.
 

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born2killspam

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Conclude no.. And you're in a tough spot in the sense that you'll see so much, your mind will overflow trying to analyze it all for information.. I got high hopes for you though..
 
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That little seedling node that the cotyledons (rounded baby leaves) grow from is not a true node.. First true node is the one above that..
 
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If you're asking about Kriegs' pics, then he stated 3weeks 12/12..
Notice the fairly thin leaves though.. Sativas don't really explode into flowering very quickly.. Its a result of the lattitude where the genetics originated.. Near the equator, its dang close to 12/12 all year round, so that behaviour helps them become a respectable size before concentrating on flower production..
 
merahoon

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Kriegs said:
I had this "swollen node" character at the petiole bases in my batch of bagseed indicas -- just on the females. The males didn't produce this. I'm interested in hearing how your sex ratio pans out versus this character. I also had two bubblelicious in the same grow that went male, and also didn't show this character. No one seems to have much comment on this yet; it's something I'll be watching through successive grows to see if it pans out as a sex-determinant character.
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Sorry it took me a few days to get back. I was having problems with my internet. I had 3 power skunks in my room which were all male but they all had the swollen node characteristic. I heard someone mention that males begin to stretch at sexual maturity and I will have to say I did notice that out of the males I have picked. Some I was able to guess were male by the stretching before they showed.

I did notice though that the nodes that were swollen had a growth spurt and in most cases turned out to be dominant branches or they just caught up with the rest of the growth. I'm assuming this has to do with the flow of hormones since this always happened below my cut. I don't know though.
 
Kriegs

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Sorry it took me a few days to get back. I was having problems with my internet. I had 3 power skunks in my room which were all male but they all had the swollen node characteristic. I heard someone mention that males begin to stretch at sexual maturity and I will have to say I did notice that out of the males I have picked. Some I was able to guess were male by the stretching before they showed.

I did notice though that the nodes that were swollen had a growth spurt and in most cases turned out to be dominant branches or they just caught up with the rest of the growth. I'm assuming this has to do with the flow of hormones since this always happened below my cut. I don't know though.
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Okay.. well, maybe this is just a characteristic of the plant in general. It would really surprise me to find that thousands/millions of growers over thousands of years had missed this. But, hey, you never know.

I did notice that, too -- my male bubblelicious plants were actually a week younger than the rest, but they caught up in height suddenly even before I went 12/12.

Thanks for the feedback..
 
merahoon

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Kriegs said:
Okay.. well, maybe this is just a characteristic of the plant in general. It would really surprise me to find that thousands/millions of growers over thousands of years had missed this. But, hey, you never know.

I did notice that, too -- my male bubblelicious plants were actually a week younger than the rest, but they caught up in height suddenly even before I went 12/12.

Thanks for the feedback..
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No problem man. Cool theory though till it was busted. Male plants have to carry somewhat different characteristic other than their pollen sacs... but what? And maybe they really don't show any other signs besides their sacs.
 
Kriegs

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merahoon said:
No problem man. Cool theory though till it was busted. Male plants have to carry somewhat different characteristic other than their pollen sacs... but what? And maybe they really don't show any other signs besides their sacs.
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Yup... in any case, we'll keep up the search.
 
Uncle Ben

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merahoon said:
No problem man. Cool theory though till it was busted. Male plants have to carry somewhat different characteristic other than their pollen sacs... but what? And maybe they really don't show any other signs besides their sacs.
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I've never had a problem sexing using preflowers as an indicator, it's very reliable.
 
merahoon

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I'm not saying that its not reliable. I was saying I wish they would show certain growth patterns or something before they show preflowers so maybe you could confirm sooner that its a male or female. Even then though now that I think of it, I still wouldn't pull them till they showed the sure pre-flowers.
 
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born2killspam

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Yea, it would be nice to walk to a guerilla grow when seedlings are only inches tall, long before you need to worry about somebody spotting/watching your plants, and know which to kill.. Its a dream worth dreaming anyways..
 
Chipp

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Cool method - I think I will do it on my grow soon. I'm a turbo noob and had some Q's:

1. About how long was that plant on the first page veging (the one that yielded like 10oz) before it was put into flowering?

2. How much did the plant shoot up in height/bushiness once it was put into flowering?

3. That plant - how *wide* would you say it was? I'm building a grow box for just 1 plant, and I don't want the width * length to be too small. What is a a realistic w*L*h to house a plant like that?


This might be a bit off topic. Thanks!!
 
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