Uncle Ben's Gardening Tweeks and Pointers

Uncle Ben

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Had a long post done, lost it. This will get you started. Google for more.

I know of no credible commercial or hobby gardeners that use any products that contain amino acids, proteins, or sugar/carbos. nuff said.....

http://puyallup.wsu.edu/~Linda Chalker-Scott/Horticultural Myths_files/index.html
http://www.staugorchidsociety.org/PDF/IPAFertilizers.pdf
http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CoopExt/4DMG/Garden/beware.htm
http://dev.soils.wisc.edu/extension//pubs/2006noncon_with_ref.pdf

I did a thread on this one (snake oils) - http://ceventura.ucdavis.edu/newsletters/Topics_in_Subtropics39882.pdf
 

StringBurner

Active Member
Very interesting reading Uncle Ben, thanks for that.

In a former life, I was REALLY into exercise. To make up for my shortcomings, I turned to nutritional supplementation to bridge the gap. There are striking parallels in both the fertilizer/nutrition and supplement/nutrition industries. The marketing tactics are SO similar - even down to the imagery and vernacular. "Freakish Growth", "Unparalleled Gains" and other predatory techniques used to separate the average Joe from his earnings.

Yeah, I still fall for it. Can you really fault someone for wanting a 30 inch waist, 17 inch biceps and plants with 30% THC without years of hard work? All you need is this one bottle?

Thanks for continually offering up your years of experience. Read between the lines and we might learn more than just gardening.
 

Uncle Ben

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Thanks StringBurner, appreciate the appreciation. I can relate. I used to pump iron in my younger days and the supplement sales was the same old drills.

Ben, what do you suggest I do with "twins". Got a female seeds c99 coming through the dirt as 2 plants...

peace
How did that happen? What do you mean by twins?
 

haulinbass

Well-Known Member
Im guessing two beans fused together, seen that on another forum. Both germinated and one was male and one was female, dude bred them together but the fused seeeds didnt pass by trait.not my pic, from skunk mag forum
 

cannawizard

Well-Known Member
Had a long post done, lost it. This will get you started. Google for more.

I know of no credible commercial or hobby gardeners that use any products that contain amino acids, proteins, or sugar/carbos. nuff said.....

http://puyallup.wsu.edu/~Linda Chalker-Scott/Horticultural Myths_files/index.html
http://www.staugorchidsociety.org/PDF/IPAFertilizers.pdf
http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CoopExt/4DMG/Garden/beware.htm
http://dev.soils.wisc.edu/extension//pubs/2006noncon_with_ref.pdf

I did a thread on this one (snake oils) - http://ceventura.ucdavis.edu/newsletters/Topics_in_Subtropics39882.pdf
good read, thnx UB~
 

puffdatchronic

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Hi Ben,

I purchased 2 cindy 99 seeds via the pick n mix store I always use. The seeds were true cindy seeds with that lovely speckled appearance.

I inspected both seeds, both seeds completely normal, mature, fat, healthy seeds. Not 2 seeds joined. Not 2 seeds planted either.

I know I planted just one of these seeds, I know because I still have the other.

But my little cindy to be has came up like this. I can't quite figure out how I should proceed with this, maybe just let it go naturally since it's so rare?


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Uncle Ben

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Hi Ben,

I purchased 2 cindy 99 seeds via the pick n mix store I always use. The seeds were true cindy seeds with that lovely speckled appearance.

I inspected both seeds, both seeds completely normal, mature, fat, healthy seeds. Not 2 seeds joined. Not 2 seeds planted either.

I know I planted just one of these seeds, I know because I still have the other.

But my little cindy to be has came up like this. I can't quite figure out how I should proceed with this, maybe just let it go naturally since it's so rare?


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My friend, you are in a heap of trouble. First, plant both...let's get that out of the way. You try to separate those very delicate babies and you're likely to kill them both.

2nd, how are you going to transfer those seedlings without damaging the root system or breaking the stems? You should germinate in a container that is at least 6" tall. You do have drain holes in that saucer or is it a pot? I'll post a thread with my germ archive. It's a bit anal, meant it to be so that there's NO reason for failure.

My point being, it's not germinating a seed that's the big deal. A monkey can germinate a seed. It's what happens after the seedcoat cracks that matters which I talk about later in this thread.

https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/705930-help-now-germination-rate-like.html
 

puffdatchronic

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You say just leave them to grow like that.. yeah I also think there's a good chance of killing them if i try and separate them. Maybe If one starts to lag behind badly I could kill that one when they are older.. But it will be kinda cool to see what happens here, even if the results will not be optimal. But you take these miracles as a blessing

The pot is a 3inch seedling pot with drainage holes yes . I agree though, I used 8 inch pots before and find these new ones i got a bit small. I transfer by being very careful lol , but yeah that's why i preferred the bigger pot. Bigger pot I just water it once let the seeds come up and just leave it for like a week as there's enough moisture in it. By 1 week the are nice and strong for a move. These pots, bit of a pain.

And I agree a monkey could germ a seed. In fact I would say a monkey could germ a seed better than a lot of humans ,who mess around with glasses of water, and paper towels. My success rate is about 99% using mandalas advice of putting the seed directly in the dirt.
 

MightyMike530

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New grower here, read the whole thread over several days. WOW! Applying all I've learned to the 3 - Skywalker OG x Maui Waui and 3 - Super Skunk x Chocolope I have started.

Shocked to find Uncle Ben is still imparting straightforward wisdom to the masses. Glad that is so. So much knowledge in this thread. Ben must be a good grower, he has unlimited patience. Thanks a lot Ben.
 

budman111

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New grower here, read the whole thread over several days. WOW! Applying all I've learned to the 3 - Skywalker OG x Maui Waui and 3 - Super Skunk x Chocolope I have started.

Shocked to find Uncle Ben is still imparting straightforward wisdom to the masses. Glad that is so. So much knowledge in this thread. Ben must be a good grower, he has unlimited patience. Thanks a lot Ben.
welcome mike, you wont be disappointed with the skywalker kush, one of the best I have tasted behind sour kush!
 

Turkilton

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I started this draft and then quit after finding out I can't edit what I start. I need the flexibility to make future additions and revisions, which is not granted to the thread starter here at RIU. So for what it's worth, here are a few tidbits written about 6 months ago.

Enjoy,
Uncle Ben


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Uncle Ben's Gardening Tweeks


After 40 years of gardening experience, a ton of applied book learning, and a whole lot of research and personal experience I thought I'd share some pointers or tweeks. Feel free to comment. This will be a work in progress as I recall “gems” I might have inadvertently left out.

Light - Plants needs a rest. Recommend 20/4 for veg. Plants do better (produce more carbos) with less light over a longer period of time than alot of light for a shorter period of time. There is a point of light saturation where more light will work against you by bleaching out the lifeblood of the plant - chlorophyll. Learn to "read your plants" and keep those leaves healthy and green until harvest. Also, contrary to forum paradigms, in general you want to give your plants more light during veg and less during flowering, think nature. The flowering response is not the time to bleach out the leaves with high light intensities (and high P foods). Ultra low levels of N found in bloom foods will generally not support leaf health.

Temperature and the importance of day/night differential - In general, a 85/70F (32/16C) day/night temp is best for most hybrids for maximum carbo production. What's really important is a good drop in temperature at night, of at least 15F/4C. If night temps are too high, the plant will use up the carbos manufactured during the day to the process of respiration as opposed to plant cell division/elongation (tissue production).

Watering technique
- contrary to popular belief, wet/dry cycles are NOT good, especially for organic growers. Keep the soil medium moist but not saturated to the point where air is excluded. When you water, don’t be shy. Water until there is a good runoff. The issue is not overwatering, it's watering to the point of the exclusion of air.

Fertilizers - I don’t use “cannabis specific” plant foods for many reasons. If you do, make sure you’re able to find the NPK and micro values and understand the relationship between those elements. An overage of one element over another will create an antagonistic affect. For example, too much K tends to create a deficiency of N, Ca, and Mg.

Foliage production - Grow for the most amount of foliage you can going into the flowering response. Maintain those leaves in a green and healthy condition up until harvest, even if it means switching fertilizer to a high N value, like a 9-3-6.

Upcanning (repotting) - Score the rootball - pop the ball out and using a razor blade or sharp knife insert it about ½" into the rootball at the top and slice thru the exposed roots from top to bottom concentrating on any root spinout at the bottom. Rotate the rootball and do this about 4 times. Bury the “trunk” as deep as you can even if it means pulling off some of the lower leafsets. This will induce root output all along the buried trunk.

BE MY MENTOR :lol:
 

Steelheader3430

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Atta boy Turk. And lots of thanks to you Uncle Ben. I've seen people give you a lot of shit for your approach to this plant. For treating it like a plant I guess... Yet you continue to help out us new guys with nothing but likes, rep. and kudos in return. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge alot.
 

Uncle Ben

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No problem, glad to help. I don't do anything different than other seasoned conventional growers do. It's all about botany and the basics.
 

JonnyAppleSeed420

New Member
New grower here, read the whole thread over several days. WOW! Applying all I've learned to the 3 - Skywalker OG x Maui Waui and 3 - Super Skunk x Chocolope I have started.

Shocked to find Uncle Ben is still imparting straightforward wisdom to the masses. Glad that is so. So much knowledge in this thread. Ben must be a good grower, he has unlimited patience. Thanks a lot Ben.
Yes there is a lot of really good info from this gentleman. All newbies should read these threads, all the basic knowledge is there...generally. Don't stop there though, don't think that is that, this should be considered your starting point. You now have the basics and you can build from here. Techniques and practices change regularly but the basics are always the same. Never stop learning and never, never, think you know it all. JAS
 

Uncle Ben

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I have a lot more patience than I should. When it comes to cannabis grow sites, wrong is right and right is wrong.
 

Comacus

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Hey UB - Have you ever battled root aphids, and do you have any recommendations for a soil drench to eradicate this pest? I think these invaded my indoor garden in some potting soil. I first noticed a different looking fly that was not a peat fly, and now with my 30x loop, I am seeing little soft bodied, tan, roundish, 6 legged bugs with antenna in the soil. I am pretty sure I have a root aphid problem.[HR][/HR] From what I can find on the web, it is suggested that alternating treatments of pyrethrin and azamax soil drenches can be effective. There is a fungus called Met52 also being used but it is a bit pricey.[HR][/HR]I finally got my plants to recover with the dynagro and repotting, and now I have a new war to wage! Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I wII I
 

chuck estevez

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Hey UB - Have you ever battled root aphids, and do you have any recommendations for a soil drench to eradicate this pest? I think these invaded my indoor garden in some potting soil. I first noticed a different looking fly that was not a peat fly, and now with my 30x loop, I am seeing little soft bodied, tan, roundish, 6 legged bugs with antenna in the soil. I am pretty sure I have a root aphid problem.[HR][/HR] From what I can find on the web, it is suggested that alternating treatments of pyrethrin and azamax soil drenches can be effective. There is a fungus called Met52 also being used but it is a bit pricey.[HR][/HR]I finally got my plants to recover with the dynagro and repotting, and now I have a new war to wage! Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I wII I
sounds like springtails, do they look like these? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springtail
 
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