Uncle Bens Dyna Grow Love

First before I begin let me state I am just beginning to grow after some years off. I first
started growing cannabis in the early 80s. At that time we made our own hydroponic
systems using pea gravel and there were almost no hydro stores in America. Much has changed since
then particularly the rise in hydro stores pushing snake oil to kids that have no clue about plant nutrition. I have read many of Uncle Bens posts and usually agree with him and he is obviously verry knowledgable. With that being said I use hydro at this time and find the flora nova series better than other nutrients on the market including dyna grow which I have used many times. In
particular if ro water is used dyna grow has way to little calcium and magnesium especially compared to fora nova. I have had much better results from the dyna grow grow formula than the foliage pro. The ratio seems to hot for a lot of species and has way to little iron unlike the grow.
With the flora nova this is all fixed as well as not being low in k during bloom. The only thing its lacking is the nickel and sodium there is usually plenty of sodium in most water and I think this is of no concern and the nickel seems to be ok especialy if we are not using urea as a N source. Dyna grows nickel content is low anyways and would not be enough for crops such as barley legumes or woody perennials which need this micro nute. I also do not like the excessive (for hydro) ammonium Nitrate in dyna grow and feel a readily available form (Nitrate nitrogen) is preferred. I have had good results mixing Dyna Grows grow and bloom in the past to achieve the optimum ratio for the stage of bloom. It is however low in K for hydro but can be remedied somewhat with the addition of 0-0-3 Pro- tekt. Hydro also seems to need more k than soil as in soil we use more P because it is leached out more easily. So in conclusion I find the flora Nova series superior to Dyna grow for Hydro and for you kids who don't like the muddy consistency just remember this is added humic acid and Advanced nutrients would scam you out of at least a hundred dollars more for this.

Sounds like you're selling something.

Thats what i thought you were doing with the dyna grow

thecoolman said:

Thats what i thought you were doing with the dyna grow

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Difference is HB documents scientifically and is non-biased in his reports. Ok, it's settled then...start a journal and post your pics....else it's NO different than an AN article in Rosebud claiming what nutes are available and how this will increase yield by 33%

thecoolman said:

Thats what i thought you were doing with the dyna grow

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My comments about DG are usually reserved for those who think they need to spend a lot of money on canna-specific fertilizers (ie. AN users). You on the other hand are spamming threads with the SAME cut-and-pasted quote found twice in the thread below:

https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/267989-uncle-bens-gardening-tweeks-pointers-101.html#post6648699

By all means, post a journal comparing your 7 mineral FloraNova to DynaGro which contains all 16 essential elements. I love comparison threads.

Sorry for the excessive posting and I do respect the fact your trying to educate the brain washed people Ben. I do however have both the dyna bloom and the flora nova bloom in my hand right now.
They both have 14 minerals in them the big difference being the N P K ratios and mineral volumes. THEY BOTH HAVE 14 MINERALS listed on the bottle the dyna bloom has a little added sodium floranova bloom has none but has sulfur which I think is more important. It also has much more cal mag than the dynabloom . With that said I do like dyna grow it is a premium nute and much better than most. I use it for soil and have for hydro a few times also. I think the people using the 3 part GH are making a mistake and the AN people are just ignorant and of course are not getting all the minerals.

thecoolman said:

Sorry for the excessive posting and I do respect the fact your trying to educate the brain washed people Ben. I do however have both the dyna bloom and the flora nova bloom in my hand right now.
They both have 14 minerals in them the big difference being the N P K ratios and mineral volumes. THEY BOTH HAVE 14 MINERALS listed on the bottle the dyna bloom has a little added sodium floranova bloom has none but has sulfur which I think is more important. It also has much more cal mag than the dynabloom . With that said I do like dyna grow it is a premium nute and much better than most. I use it for soil and have for hydro a few times also. I think the people using the 3 part GH are making a mistake and the AN people are just ignorant and of course are not getting all the minerals.

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Actually, you're right about floranova's mineral content. Their website was updated recently and is now showing a different label for floranova. DynaGro's website shows 16 elements, it's $20 cheaper per gallon locally ($50 vs FloraNova at $71) and it's been pH perfect for me since day one. In my hydro setup, the GH 3-part as I ran it was also a 1-2-2 NPK ratio like FloraNova and I get better yields from DG's 1-3-2 ratio (as I use it mixed with grow). I don't know how concentrated FloraNova is or how pH stable it is or how clean it is but at $71 per gallon locally, that's kinda spendy.

I agree its spendy I get it for 57 a gallon from a local shop though and its very concentrated and ph stable unlike many nutes. I am a fan of dyna grow also and your right very ph stable to. I have been thinking of trying there 7-7-7 formula for grow as well.
I have mixed the bloom also but have not used it all the way through in hydro. I might give it a try next time I believe the 3 part gh is missing many minerals. I have not been able to grow for many years do to kids that are now gone and am perhaps a little rusty. What blows me away after coming back to marijuana after so long is all the bs in the hydro shops with kids pushing 20 bottle system scams.

Springtucky said:

Difference is HB documents scientifically and is non-biased in his reports. Ok, it's settled then...start a journal and post your pics....else it's NO different than an AN article in Rosebud claiming what nutes are available and how this will increase yield by 33%

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Obviously you dont have any knowledge of plants gardening or agriculture. I gave specific reasons why I prefer the flora nova bloom and its ratios sighting universally excepted nutrients needed for plant growth.
To compare this with the bs from advanced is pathetic. Also while Uncle Bens journal are xint they certainly are not scientific.

It's a 30 dollar difference at the store I go too. Are they both equally concentrated? I'm running floranova, but would like to try something else. Didn't ever think that something else might be dnya bloom though.

HB, what's your ratio of grow to bloom in flower and does it stay the same throughout? I run veg nutes till week 2 with bud blood added in week 2 to help induce flowering. Think if I ran straight dyna bloom at end of week 2 on I would still see premature fan leaf yellowing?

cheechee said:

HB, what's your ratio of grow to bloom in flower and does it stay the same throughout? I run veg nutes till week 2 with bud blood added in week 2 to help induce flowering. Think if I ran straight dyna bloom at end of week 2 on I would still see premature fan leaf yellowing?

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About 30% of my base ppm comes from 'grow' during the first few weeks of bloom. I do taper off as flowering progresses. I think a bloom and protekt combo works great, but I also use magpro in flowering and feel like I need grow in there to balance out the heavy handed P from both bloom and magpro.

id like to jump in here and ask a quick question.
homebrewer i followed your dyna gro vs. advanced grow and was very impressed cuz myself was using advanced. i switched to dyna gro and im having serious yellowing issues. im using a 50/50 ratio of the grow and bloom and it still is getting worse. im in soil with a ph of 6.1. also using cal mag. any ideas?

mvoltage24 said:

id like to jump in here and ask a quick question.
homebrewer i followed your dyna gro vs. advanced grow and was very impressed cuz myself was using advanced. i switched to dyna gro and im having serious yellowing issues. im using a 50/50 ratio of the grow and bloom and it still is getting worse. im in soil with a ph of 6.1. also using cal mag. any ideas?

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You're at a 50/50 mix of grow and bloom, how much are you adding to a gallon of water? What kind of water, tap or RO?

im using RO water and im running my ppms at 700 between the grow and bloom put together. plus 300 ppm in additives so my total is 1000 when fed to the plants.
im not sure exactly that is per gallon but i think its somewhere around 5ml a gallon of each. any ideas?
thanks for your guidence

thecoolman said:

Obviously you dont have any knowledge of plants gardening or agriculture. I gave specific reasons why I prefer the flora nova bloom and its ratios sighting universally excepted nutrients needed for plant growth.
To compare this with the bs from advanced is pathetic. Also while Uncle Bens journal are xint they certainly are not scientific.

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Your pictures is worth a thousand words...I was just saying you should add some guy.

mvoltage24 said:

im using RO water and im running my ppms at 700 between the grow and bloom put together. plus 300 ppm in additives so my total is 1000 when fed to the plants.
im not sure exactly that is per gallon but i think its somewhere around 5ml a gallon of each. any ideas?
thanks for your guidence

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mvoltage24, the same exact thing happened to me when i switched from a.n to dyna-grow! i had to switch back to a.n immediately so my plants didnt get any worse. after i switched back i realized that even with a.n the problem wasnt fixed until i raised up the nutes a huge amount. problems started at 300 tds right when i switched. in the end i came to the conclusion that if you use dyna grow you have keep the ppm higher than with advanced to avoid problems. thats the only thing i can come up with in my situation. just so you fully understand what was happening with my plants, they were turning yellow and getting brown burning spots on the leaves

tree king said:

mvoltage24, the same exact thing happened to me when i switched from a.n to dyna-grow! i had to switch back to a.n immediately so my plants didnt get any worse. after i switched back i realized that even with a.n the problem wasnt fixed until i raised up the nutes a huge amount. problems started at 300 tds right when i switched. in the end i came to the conclusion that if you use dyna grow you have keep the ppm higher than with advanced to avoid problems. thats the only thing i can come up with in my situation. just so you fully understand what was happening with my plants, they were turning yellow and getting brown burning spots on the leaves

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His issue is an easy fix given his medium, nutes and water source. I think you and I spoke at another forum and given the numbers you ran by me, I'm not sure why you're having issues. If you can't figure it out, stick with what works I guess.

tree king my current grow must be a "clone" of that grow when you switched. im learning alot thanks to you guys. playing around with different nutrients is something i enjoy.
in about to enter week 6 and i super happy with my plants. besides the yellowing its the best bud production i have ever seen. dyna gro is a good product line but i think my inexperince with it is whats holding me back. i fully understand AN so i might switch back to it until i do some more testing with dyna gro.

mvoltage24 said:

tree king my current grow must be a "clone" of that grow when you switched. im learning alot thanks to you guys. playing around with different nutrients is something i enjoy.
in about to enter week 6 and i super happy with my plants. besides the yellowing its the best bud production i have ever seen. dyna gro is a good product line but i think my inexperince with it is whats holding me back. i fully understand AN so i might switch back to it until i do some more testing with dyna gro.

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thats exactly what im doing. right now i cant afford to risk messing up a crop so as soon as im in a better position il start testing out the dyna-grow. im confident i have the 2-part dialed in at this point so im good for now

homebrewer, quick question for you. you said you always add grow with the bloom to prevent yellowing but have you ever just tried using only the bloom and raise the ppm higher? i remember you said you dont like going above 600 ppm but is it possible that going to 7-800 ppm will fix the problem of the yellowing when using bloom only? it just makes it alot more complicated when your using 2 bottles you know