Two Spotted Spider Mites - Help!

beefxer

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I have been growing my personal medication on and off for years now, and I have never had to deal with spider mites. I recently started growing again, this time in DWC buckets instead of soil, and I picked up some clones from my local friendly patient cooperative.

Unfortunately, today I discovered that the strongest clone, Cheese, appears to have spider mites.

In the pics you can see that there was a pretty bad infestation on one very yellow, dead leaf. This leaf was a casualty of my inexperience with hydroponics (or so I thought), and it apparently had become a breeding ground for spider mites. I pulled all of the yellow leaves off and inspected them, and this was the only leaf with this kind of infestation.

I then went over every leaf looking for more mites. I found several, but they were easy to pull off with the little green poker you see in the pics. They were pretty easy to spot once I knew what to look for, and most of them were found under leaves that had tell-tale white dots on the top, like the one in the pics.

So, my question to you guys is: should I freak out and throw this clone in the trash? I looked over my other clones and none of them show any signs of mites. I'm pretty sure I got the majority of the mites off of that plant, but I'm guessing that there are eggs that I can't see. The clone only cost me $15 and two weeks so far... better to toss it and be on the safe side?
 

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Doesn't matter if you throw them away, you already got them in your room. So basically bomb your room (try to get the commercial 4% ones) and then do it again right before you flower just in case. There's so many products out there for mites have you tried anything yet? If you don't care about being non-organic Avid is tried and true and really all the advice I'd give for you to start out with: )


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Serapis

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Don't kill the messenger! ;)


You are going to have to treat for mites.... That is one of the problems when purchasing clones... they should know they have mites. Call them and bitch. Next time you purchase clones, you'll know what to look for before allowing them into your home.
 

beefxer

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You guys are fast like ninja.

A quick google search tells me that Avid costs over $400 for a quart. Ouch... I'm guessing I'll be able to find it in small quantities at my local hydro shop, no?
 
but you use it in low low quantities too, it's commercial basically. and basically you're likely not to need anything else, especially if you bomb like i mentioned before: ) are you in a spot that has multiple hydro shops? If not let me know then I can suggest other stuff.
 

beefxer

Member
Yeah there are multiple hydro shops near my house, but I think I'm going to start treating with a few of the home remedies that I've come across. I already sprayed the bottom of the leaves of the infected plant with water with a few drops of Dr. Bronner's soap (in almond flavor, my favorite) in it. I'm thinking about a 1:3 alcohol/water solution next.

I've been looking all day, and I found one mite and a few white specks that could have been eggs. I really think I got the majority of the population, and I can keep an eye on every leaf since my plants are so tiny still. The lame part is that I noticed the white spots on the leaves that signified spider mite feeding sites over a week ago... I could have stopped them before they laid the next generation of eggs. Ugh!

At least I know what to look for now. I'm sure I'll win in the end.
 

beefxer

Member
Sweet lord. I stumble in at 11pm to gaze at my ladies, and what do I see? A thrip larva.

I wouldn't have known what it was if I hadn't been researching cannabis pests. Now I know what those gnaw marks on the *tops* of those leaves are...

Morale is low here. Hopefully the Dr. Bronner's works.
 

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nomaninsf

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Avid is great for spider mites since it's systemic and stays in the plant for 32 days I believe. Floramite is a better product though if you do in fact have spider mites.

Avid pros are that it is systemic and any mites that feed on an Avid treated plant will die. Another pro of avid is that it also works on pests like thrips and aphids. The con is that it does not kill eggs.

Floramite is the best product for strictly spider mites. The pros are that it is also systemic like Avid and it also kills the eggs of spider mites which Avid lacks. The con of Floramite is that it works on spider mites and only spider mites so you can't use it on any other bugs.

The most efficient way to treat your plant with these products is to mix a large bow, pitcher, or 5 gallon bucket for larger plants with the solution and turn your plant upside down and dunk the plant. This ensures full coverage of every part of the leaf. Since you're using rocks you could cut a slit in a paper plate to cover your hydroton and so you can turn your net pot upside down for dunking without spilling all your rocks out. If you spray make sure you get the bottoms of all the leaves.

For Floramite and Avid mix a total of 3ml per gallon of water. Both are extremely toxic to humans so where gloves and long sleeves and DO NOT get any on you.
 
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