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febisfebi

febisfebi

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ttystikk said:
Just imagine how far above the canopy you'd have to mount that monster; thirty feet, maybe more at full power!

Methinks most folks don't have bays THAT high, lol
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Yeah I think they probably meant for it to light football fields and such, lol.
But still, imagine a warehouse grow with ceilings as high as you need, and one of those every 30 feet or so in each direction. But still probably better for football fields. 80 lpw is not going to cut it in this industry once COB led is fully adopted.
I'm guessing the (if only slightly) smaller cob's will take on the job at higher efficiency, and for cheaper no doubt.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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febisfebi said:
Yeah I think they probably meant for it to light football fields and such, lol.
But still, imagine a warehouse grow with ceilings as high as you need, and one of those every 30 feet or so in each direction. But still probably better for football fields. 80 lpw is not going to cut it in this industry once COB led is fully adopted.
I'm guessing the (if only slightly) smaller cob's will take on the job at higher efficiency, and for cheaper no doubt.
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More light sources mean better distribution and that's always a big plus.
 
texasjack

texasjack

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ttystikk said:
Tin work by my HVAC guy, building my dual core water to forced air HVAC system. One heat exchange core is for hot water to heat my house, the other is for cold with which to cool.

It will run on the same system with growroom HVAC, and thus operating costs will be shared and often eliminated altogether.
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I reremember talking to you about this. Good stuff.
 
ttystikk

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a mongo frog said:
Will it snow at your house?
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I'm in Colorado. It snows in all areas of the state. I'm near Wyoming, so it snows more here but I'm not in the mountains, where it can snow feet regularly.

The global warming factor is that when I was a kid, it was colder here. Nowadays it's more like the northern New Mexico of my childhood. That's pretty significant in just one lifetime.
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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ttystikk said:
I'm in Colorado. It snows in all areas of the state. I'm near Wyoming, so it snows more here but I'm not in the mountains, where it can snow feet regularly.

The global warming factor is that when I was a kid, it was colder here. Nowadays it's more like the northern New Mexico of my childhood. That's pretty significant in just one lifetime.
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Do you have a fire place, or do people do fire places there? Dumb question i guess, just wondering.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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a mongo frog said:
Do you have a fire place, or do people do fire places there? Dumb question i guess, just wondering.
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Actually, an intriguing one; you see, fireplaces used to be very desirable for home heating, until the advent of cheap natural gas extraction. Now there is much more pollution from the influx of people, leading to a ban on traditional fireplaces in new construction! Gas fireplaces are fine because they don't emit particulate pollution, so they've become the fireplace of choice.

The fireplace in my home is really not constructed very well at all and will actually draw more heat out of the house than it adds! If the damper worked better it would be different, but there isn't much point. I have plenty of free waste heat being captured by my HVAC system and that's all but free.
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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ttystikk said:
Actually, an intriguing one; you see, fireplaces used to be very desirable for home heating, until the advent of cheap natural gas extraction. Now there is much more pollution from the influx of people, leading to a ban on traditional fireplaces in new construction! Gas fireplaces are fine because they don't emit particulate pollution, so they've become the fireplace of choice.

The fireplace in my home is really not constructed very well at all and will actually draw more heat out of the house than it adds! If the damper worked better it would be different, but there isn't much point. I have plenty of free waste heat being captured by my HVAC system and that's all but free.
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Yea here too. They have these spare the air days. Where no one can burn. Is your waste heat from the garden?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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@a mongo frog think of it like this;

Heat is heat, the only way to waste it is to let it go underutilized and buy more from the utility.

My dual circuit chiller pushes heat up the temperature gradient, allowing me to more easily put it to use.

Two bites at the apple. In engineering terms, free lunch.
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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ttystikk said:
@a mongo frog think of it like this;

Heat is heat, the only way to waste it is to let it go underutilized and buy more from the utility.

My dual circuit chiller pushes heat up the temperature gradient, allowing me to more easily put it to use.

Two bites at the apple. In engineering terms, free lunch.
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And all this should keep you warm enough? No gas or electrical heaters? No sluts needed to keep warm?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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a mongo frog said:
And all this should keep you warm enough? No gas or electrical heaters? No sluts needed to keep warm?
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I'm a slut so the more sluts, the merrier!

Now that's out of the way, I have up to 7.5 Tons of heat to use for home heating, domestic hot water, nighttime grow room heat, round the clock dehuey, plus more for garage heat, hot tub maintenance heat, patio heat... I might even put in a driveway heating circuit so I never have to shovel.

Gonna see just how much heat I can use from this fucker lol

For comparison's sake, I've used the 3 Tons of heat from the window banger for years and it was more than adequate to heat my whole house.
 
febisfebi

febisfebi

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ttystikk said:
I'm a slut so the more sluts, the merrier!

Now that's out of the way, I have up to 7.5 Tons of heat to use for home heating, domestic hot water, nighttime grow room heat, round the clock dehuey, plus more for garage heat, hot tub maintenance heat, patio heat... I might even put in a driveway heating circuit so I never have to shovel.

Gonna see just how much heat I can use from this fucker lol

For comparison's sake, I've used the 3 Tons of heat from the window banger for years and it was more than adequate to heat my whole house.
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how much did you spend on that chiller, and where can I get one, lol
 
febisfebi

febisfebi

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ttystikk said:
@a mongo frog think of it like this;

Heat is heat, the only way to waste it is to let it go underutilized and buy more from the utility.

My dual circuit chiller pushes heat up the temperature gradient, allowing me to more easily put it to use.

Two bites at the apple. In engineering terms, free lunch.
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when you say dual circuit, I'm guessing that has to do with one cold water circuit, one hot to use for heating/domestic hot water, on single phase 230v circuit, not two electrical circuits, right?. On their website they do not list anything about hot gas recovery, is that something you have to special order?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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febisfebi said:
when you say dual circuit, I'm guessing that has to do with one cold water circuit, one hot to use for heating/domestic hot water, on single phase 230v circuit, not two electrical circuits, right?. On their website they do not list anything about hot gas recovery, is that something you have to special order?
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Dual circuits of water; one cold and one hot.

You can call them and they'll be happy to discuss it.
 
febisfebi

febisfebi

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ttystikk said:
Dual circuits of water; one cold and one hot.

You can call them and they'll be happy to discuss it.
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I'll do my best to find some time tomorrrow to discuss all this with them. Just out of curiosity though, how much does this unit cost you to run with your application? It appears to use about 9660w according to the specs on their site, but I can't imagine you are running it at full power 24/7
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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febisfebi said:
I'll do my best to find some time tomorrrow to discuss all this with them. Just out of curiosity though, how much does this unit cost you to run with your application? It appears to use about 9660w according to the specs on their site, but I can't imagine you are running it at full power 24/7
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I've no idea how you calculated that but it certainly does not use that much electricity.

It runs until the water in the cold circuit has reached the setpoint, then it shuts down until it has climbed the rise programed into the thermostat. In this way it provides continuous cooling (and heating) whether it's actually running or not. Thus it tailors its output to the actual load, automatically.

It uses about a third less power to cool than conventional AC- and the heat it provides is basically free, since it's recovered from the cooling circuit rather than being generated anew.

The efficiency boost provided thereby is significant and almost universally unrecognized.
 
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