Trump's Amazing Military Parade.

greg nr said:

That family unit (father, mother, 2 daughters) left in 1939 out of fear of what he would do. The father had read mine kamph and believed it. He gave up everything and got his family out.

Other members of their family didn't leave, and it didn't end well for most of them. Apparently they didn't believe that hitler would come after german jews. It was the polish jews, and gypsies, and the like, that he would go after. They were germans. They weren't worried. Emigration was largely cut off after 1939. That was a last chance exit, and luckily it worked.

But it wasn't easy, in large part because the us and other countries didn't want jewish immigrants. The us gov't knew what was going on. It wasn't a secret to anyone on this side of the pond. The holocaust was ignored. They didn't want more germans, and especially didn't want german jews. You had to have money, and family who would provide a guarantee. The slots were extremely limited.

But I'll take first ahnd experiences as fact. Sure, it's clouded with anger at times, but the story is consistant accross too many people to be false.

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greg nr said:

My mil had to leave germany with her family at the age of 7 because of hitler and fear of what he would do. She swears to this day that the non-jewish german people LOVED hitler. He wasn't reviled at all. Sure, there was some political resistance, but it was weak and feckless in the face of pure evil. Nobody believed he would do what he said he would do.

She even swears that many JEWS liked hitler. They saw themselves as pure germans and didn't believe he actually meant what he was saying. They were blood lusting germans. They were also tragically wrong.

So as someone once said, when a despot tells you what they will do if they ever get enough power, trust them. They will. Hence we see it in trump; the only saving grace is he is an idiot and is surrounded by incompetents.

But it doesn't take competence to destroy functioning agencies or programs; just a hammer and a third grade vindictiveness. He has that.

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captainmorgan said:

And tRUmp has begun rounding up undesirables using his version of the brownshirts, he's using ICE. If tRUmp thought he could get away with it I'm sure there would be camps set up around the country to deal with these undeserving people.

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UncleBuck said:

ABOLISH ICE

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captainmorgan said:

And tRUmp has begun rounding up undesirables using his version of the brownshirts, he's using ICE. If tRUmp thought he could get away with it I'm sure there would be camps set up around the country to deal with these undeserving people.

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Fogdog said:

I think you are right. ICE agents are the right wing's brownshirts. They are scheduled to expand quite a bit this year too. Trump reversed Obama's schedule to close down private prisons too. They weren't needed until Trump's anti immigrant plans took shape.

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SneekyNinja said:

There's some solid Trump logic right there.

Take people who are paying taxes into someone else's SS number who'll never be able to claim any of it back and put them in a private prison at a massive net loss to the taxpayer.

Art of the deal.

One thing I don't see being talking about is congressional insider trading.

Trump's announcement about coal and oil exploration for example... can anyone with a straight face tell me that Trump and his associates didn't pour huge amounts of capital into target industries before announcements like the above?

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SneekyNinja said:

ICE isn't necessarily "bad"

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UncleBuck said:

yes they are

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SneekyNinja said:

ICE isn't necessarily "bad", the way they are wielded are.

We do need control of immigration, Just ask Obama who's administration deported hundreds of thousands of people.

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UncleBuck said:

yes they are

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ANC said:

Funny as fuck

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